Gluten Free Like #1 Joker

Gut4Tennis

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Everyone Should Stop Eating These Four Foods!

Interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5gXRFfMS3g

The hidden dangers of going gluten-free - here's how to avoid the pitfalls
http://www.***************/045313_Gluten-free_Celiac_disease_GMO.html

Good News: Gluten-Free, Low-Carb Paleo Diet Hits the Mainstream
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/08/18/gluten-free-low-carb-paleo-diet.aspx

"Take Control of Your Health with a Health-Promoting Diet and Exercise

I recommend minimal to no consumption of grains and sugars in my Food Pyramid for Optimal Health, which summarizes the nutritional guidelines espoused in my Nutrition Plan. Again, most people would benefit from getting at least 50 percent of your daily calories from healthy fats such as avocados, coconut oil, nuts, and raw butter until they are able to burn fats as their primary fuel and have no evidence of insulin/leptin resistance. In terms of bulk or quantity, vegetables would be the most prominent feature on your plate.

They provide countless critical nutrients, while being sparse on calories. Next comes high-quality proteins, followed by a moderate amount of fruits, and lastly, at the very top, you’ll find grains and sugars. This last top tier of sugars and grains can be eliminated entirely. Another tremendous benefit is that once your body has successfully switched over from burning carbs to burning fat as its primary fuel, carb cravings tend to disappear as if by magic. To summarize, there are two primary ways to achieve this metabolic switch, and these strategies support each other when combined:

A high-fat, moderate-protein, low-carb diet: This type of diet, in which you replace carbs with low to moderate amounts of high-quality protein and high amounts of beneficial fat, is what I recommend for everyone. This kind of diet is very helpful for normalizing weight and resolving insulin/leptin resistance.
Intermittent fasting: There are many reasons to intermittently fast. In my view, it’s one of the most effective ways to normalize your insulin and leptin sensitivity and shed excess weight, which is foundational for optimal health and disease prevention. You can boost your results further by exercising in a fasted state.
Besides turning you into an efficient fat burner, intermittent fasting can also boost your level of human growth hormone (aka the “fitness hormone”). High intensity interval training will do this as well. Intermittent fasting can also improve your brain function by boosting production of the protein BDNF, which activates brain stem cells to convert into new neurons and triggers other chemicals that promote neural health. This protein also protects your brain cells from changes associated with Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, and helps protect your neuro-muscular system from degradation."
 
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BMC9670

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Watched this and a few of his other videos, looked at his website and did a little research. A lot of common sense here, and I agree with the idea of trying to prevent and/or fix the cause of health problems with nutrition, rather than go the drug-for-everything route, but proceed with caution. The end game here is that he's selling memberships to his website ($25/mo!) and ultimately, supplements. While there is some good information/theory, it is also a sales pitch.

http://drglidden.com/become-an-insider/#section1
 
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Gut4Tennis

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Watched this and a few of his other videos, looked at his website and did a little research. A lot of common sense here, and I agree with the idea of trying to prevent and/or fix the cause of health problems with nutrition, rather than go the drug-for-everything route, but read with caution. The end game here is that he's selling memberships to his website ($25/mo!) and ultimately, supplements. While there is some good information/theory, it is also a sales pitch.

Just take his free info and move on. the end game is going gluten free

drug companies sell drugs

authors sell books

doctors are selling drugs and procedures

tennis instructors sell themselves and lessons

everyone is selling something

just filter out what you dont want.
 

BMC9670

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Just take his free info and move on. the end game is going gluten free

I agree, about taking info and moving on, not convinced on gluten free. Lot's of conflicting info out there. My take is that food has moved more and more toward those 4 foods he mentioned, and therefore more and more gluten is consumed. I look at it like sugar, no need to cut it out entirely, but too much is likely not good. Imbalances and extremes are never a good thing.
 

Gut4Tennis

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GLuten is not bad for you unless you are sensitive to it.

I have a feeling its similar to 1/3 of all people being lactose intolerant, meaning the body is saying " dont drink / eat dairy", yet another large % has hidden symptoms that might be diagnosed as something else.

so heroine is only bad for me if ....

bad analogy i know sorry

just tell me why we should eat gluten? I see no nutritional benefit...only negatives
 

ollinger

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Gluten is of course a protein and has nutritional value. It's ironic that some people want their natural foods (e.g. wheat) modified by man (remove the gluten) but would not want foods modified by some other process, e.g. GMO. I think our knowledge of nutrition is so deficient at this point in history that removing a component cannot be known to be without negatives.
 

maggmaster

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There are no negatives unless you are sensitive and it has all of the positives of protein. Lactose intolerance is only preserved in populations that have had less than 5,000 years of domesticated cattle availability.
 

GBplayer

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Gluten is of course a protein and has nutritional value. It's ironic that some people want their natural foods (e.g. wheat) modified by man (remove the gluten) but would not want foods modified by some other process, e.g. GMO. I think our knowledge of nutrition is so deficient at this point in history that removing a component cannot be known to be without negatives.

If you eat whole grain spelt it is very low in gluten and high in fibre. I make all of my bread from it, also fermented for three days.
 

Ferbious

Banned
In 2011 my mom saw what going gluten free for her friend (with RA) and yes 2011 ik coincidence, the gluten caused swelling in her joints and once she went gluten free her mobility was better

anyways she put my sister and i on a low gluten diet for 6 months and honestly i felt better than i did before, less sluggish after meals and more able to play better tennis longer. the effects werent super drastic to make me quit eating pasta and bread, but it was enough so that during tournaments and competitions i eat less of it.
 

Gut4Tennis

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In 2011 my mom saw what going gluten free for her friend (with RA) and yes 2011 ik coincidence, the gluten caused swelling in her joints and once she went gluten free her mobility was better

anyways she put my sister and i on a low gluten diet for 6 months and honestly i felt better than i did before, less sluggish after meals and more able to play better tennis longer. the effects werent super drastic to make me quit eating pasta and bread, but it was enough so that during tournaments and competitions i eat less of it.

Awesome

I hear stories like that every day

Gluten is terrible for the body. Period.

Btw gluten free pasta is impossible for me to tell the difference.

We can have our cake and eat it 2! :)
 
In 2011 my mom saw what going gluten free for her friend (with RA) and yes 2011 ik coincidence, the gluten caused swelling in her joints and once she went gluten free her mobility was better

anyways she put my sister and i on a low gluten diet for 6 months and honestly i felt better than i did before, less sluggish after meals and more able to play better tennis longer. the effects werent super drastic to make me quit eating pasta and bread, but it was enough so that during tournaments and competitions i eat less of it.
Yes, you do not have to have a diagnosed intolerance for certain foods for them to affect you in certain ways. I think we are more or less all aware of that. Actually it does not have to be the gluten specifically that does the difference.
 

Ferbious

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Yes, you do not have to have a diagnosed intolerance for certain foods for them to affect you in certain ways. I think we are more or less all aware of that. Actually it does not have to be the gluten specifically that does the difference.

yeah but anyways gluten just causes joints to swell

well it enables them more so



thats why all the people with any form of arthritis are on a gluten free diet, well all the ones i know
 

BMC9670

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Gluten is terrible for the body. Period.

Actually, there is no clear evidence one way or the other and it seems we are just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of understanding it, especially when it comes to long term outcomes.

Many of the positive short term outcomes of going "gluten free" might possibly be cutting back on the types of food it's in, not because of gluten in and of itself. There is no evidence that isolates it outside of cases of Celiac disease or sensitivity. There is also the possibility that cutting out foods that contain gluten means cutting back on other healthy vitamins, minerals, and fiber.

Going "gluten free" is a fad. Balance is the answer.
 

Gut4Tennis

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Actually, there is no clear evidence one way or the other and it seems we are just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of understanding it, especially when it comes to long term outcomes.

Many of the positive short term outcomes of going "gluten free" might possibly be cutting back on the types of food it's in, not because of gluten in and of itself. There is no evidence that isolates it outside of cases of Celiac disease or sensitivity. There is also the possibility that cutting out foods that contain gluten means cutting back on other healthy vitamins, minerals, and fiber.

Going "gluten free" is a fad. Balance is the answer.

I agree to disagree. Did you watch the video?

I've read dozens of stories on this. World #1 Joker talks about it in his book. I think its a new proven way of life. We as humans have been gluten free longer , much much longer, then eating gluten, so that means eating gluten is the REAL FAD. Gluten consumption is a dying fad
 

BMC9670

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I agree to disagree. Did you watch the video?

I've read dozens of stories on this. World #1 Joker talks about it in his book. I think its a new proven way of life. We as humans have been gluten free longer , much much longer, then eating gluten, so that means eating gluten is the REAL FAD. Gluten consumption is a dying fad

OK, but realize there are plenty of doctors and scientists (that are not selling anything) that will say the opposite. FAR from proven. Also, gluten is found in many more foods that just grains, so good luck going gluten free. And you might want to buy some of this guys supplements to make up for what you'll miss on the good side. Fad and vicious cycle to boot. Fun.
 
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Gut4Tennis

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OK, but realize there are plenty of doctors and scientists (that are not selling anything) that will say the opposite. FAR from proven anything. Also gluten is found in many more foods that just grains, so good luck going gluten free. And you might want to buy some of this guys supplements to make up for what you'll miss on the good side. Fad and vicious cycle to boot. Fun.


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Thanks for lookin out for the good people
 

SystemicAnomaly

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OK, but realize there are plenty of doctors and scientists (that are not selling anything) that will say the opposite. FAR from proven. Also, gluten is found in many more foods that just grains, so good luck going gluten free. And you might want to buy some of this guys supplements to make up for what you'll miss on the good side. Fad and vicious cycle to boot. Fun.

Got to agree with this. Dr Glidden has plenty of good points but, like you've said, we've not yet seen conclusive evidence that all of us need to eliminate gluten from our diet. He also suggests we eliminate oats/oatmeal, coconut oil, olive oil as well as barley and rye.

Note that, according to Consumer Reports, gluten-free diets often possess some hidden health risks. Gluten-free alternatives are often higher in calories with more sugar and sodium.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/01/will-a-gluten-free-diet-really-make-you-healthier/index.htm
 

maggmaster

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This is not science, this is pseudoscience. Sometimes pseudo science becomes science with research, this will not. Gluten is not inherently anything, it breaks down into the same exact nutrient particles as other proteins. It is totally possible to be less tolerant to a protein than others and I believe in a spectrum of intolerance to gluten but the largest portion of the population tolerates it just fine.
 

Gut4Tennis

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Got to agree with this. Dr Glidden has plenty of good points but, like you've said, we've not yet seen conclusive evidence that all of us need to eliminate gluten from our diet. He also suggests we eliminate oats/oatmeal, coconut oil, olive oil as well as barley and rye.

Note that, according to Consumer Reports, gluten-free diets often possess some hidden health risks. Gluten-free alternatives are often higher in calories with more sugar and sodium.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/01/will-a-gluten-free-diet-really-make-you-healthier/index.htm

I think you heard him wrong in the video. He says olive oil and coconut oil are good if I remember.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
^ Gluten protein is made of essential and non-essential amino acids like other proteins. However, it appears that some individuals do have an allergy or sensitivity to certain proteins like peanut protein and gluten protein. Can't say that I know why that is.

BTW, does Dr Glidden have anything to say about consuming peanuts? Since some individuals are highly allergic to peanuts, should we all stop eating peanuts? Note also that some milk intolerance is not lactose (milks sugar) intolerance. Some people have a milk protein intolerance.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
^^ ummm, I just read the Consumer Reports link and it indicates 1) there's evidence gluten can lower your blood pressure and improve your triglyceride profile, 2) a gluten free diet is often higher in calories, fat, and arsenic, 3) there's really no good evidence that people benefit from a gluten free diet unless they're found to be gluten sensitive.
 

Gut4Tennis

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The Benefits of Mimicking the Life of Our Ancient Ancestors

During the Paleolithic period many thousands of years ago, people ate primarily vegetables, fruit, nuts, roots, and meat. These foods form the basis of the Paleo diet, although there are slight variations of it. Unfortunately, many Paleo diets recommend switching the carbs for protein rather than fat, which can have detrimental consequences. I’ll discuss this more below. Today, these staple foods have been largely replaced with refined sugar, high fructose corn syrup, cereal, bread, potatoes, and pasteurized milk products. This processed food diet has promoted the rise of a wide array of chronic and debilitating diseases, including obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

Going back to basics and refocusing your diet on fresh, whole, unprocessed, "real" food is foundational for optimizing your health and addressing just about any health condition. You can easily mold your diet around the principles of Paleo eating by following my nutrition plan. Episodes of intermittent fasting may also be important, as our ancestors clearly did not have access to food on a 24/7 basis like we do today. I believe it to be one of the most profound interventions for the 21st century. While my nutrition plan goes into many details, as a general rule I advocate eating a diet that is:

High in healthy fats. Many will benefit from 50-85 percent of their daily calories in the form of healthy fat from avocados, organic grass-fed butter, pastured egg yolks, coconut oil, and raw nuts such as macadamia, pecans, and pine nuts
Moderate amounts of high-quality protein from organically raised, grass-fed or pastured animals. Most will likely not need more than 40 to 70 grams of protein per day, for the reasons I’ll discuss below
Unrestricted amounts of fresh vegetables, ideally organic

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/08/18/gluten-free-low-carb-paleo-diet.aspx
 

BMC9670

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Why would you jump right to gluten as the key in the paleo diet? Not a constant variable.

Here's a thought, maybe people who have bought into the gluten free fad and spend lots of money special foods or have changed their diet…..wait for it…. are just eating less and lighter food!

"Jeez, since I gave up pasta (usually accompanied by butter/cheese), pancakes (usually accompanied by syrup), waffles (again, syrup), white bread (ugh), pizza (mmm), pastries (oh, so many varieties), sugar-laced cereal (even the "healthy" stuff has sh*tloads of sugar), and beer ('nough said), I've lost weight and feel grrrreat! Must be the lack of gluten."
 
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BMC9670

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Diet fads, even if began well-intended, are inevitably marketing schemes to make money. The capitalization of our health is linked to big money in every part of the chain from farming to pharma. People fall for fads and play into them because they are lazy or think there is a cure-all for their ills, rather than reason and common sense. No wonder the US pays more for health care than most everyone else, and has only declining health to show for it.
 

ollinger

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^^ the notion that diet fads in some way relate to health in the US seems baseless. I read that fad diets are even more prevalent, for example, in Japan, among the healthiest of major societies, including the natto diet, the banana diet, and many others that come and go there at least as frequently as here. I've also seen bookstands in Italy and other European countries touting various fad diets.
 

BMC9670

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^^ the notion that diet fads in some way relate to health in the US seems baseless. I read that fad diets are even more prevalent, for example, in Japan, among the healthiest of major societies, including the natto diet, the banana diet, and many others that come and go there at least as frequently as here. I've also seen bookstands in Italy and other European countries touting various fad diets.

Diet is a huge factor in health, and the US is not in a good place in that regard. Diet fads are part of the culture and the capitalization of the entire process. Perhaps Japan has better fads?:)
 

maggmaster

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Diet fads are not really the problem, the problem is that people have a hard time maintaining a strict restricting diet for a long period of time. I don't know what the health effects of eating "paleo" for a lifetime would be and no one has done the longitudinal work to have any real evidence.
 

maggmaster

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Oh and if you truly believe that "gluten free" is the reason for Novaks transformation I would like to sell you some property on the moon. Low low price, full development rights....
 

BMC9670

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Diet fads are not really the problem, the problem is that people have a hard time maintaining a strict restricting diet for a long period of time. I don't know what the health effects of eating "paleo" for a lifetime would be and no one has done the longitudinal work to have any real evidence.

I agree. Which is why people spend billions on fads instead of adopting a balanced, long term diet.
 

SteveI

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^^ ummm, I just read the Consumer Reports link and it indicates 1) there's evidence gluten can lower your blood pressure and improve your triglyceride profile, 2) a gluten free diet is often higher in calories, fat, and arsenic, 3) there's really no good evidence that people benefit from a gluten free diet unless they're found to be gluten sensitive.

This is very... very correct on all counts. There are certain folks that are gluten sensitive and other that just cannot digest it and adsorb it properly. If you think you are one of those folks you should be seeing your doctor.. not following advice from a professional tennis player trying to sell books. I have a daughter on the ASD scale, so I know a fair amount about being "Gluten Free" and other diet related topics. I am sure I know more than the Joker....:). The only thing great about all this Gluten Free fad stuff.. is that now is it very easy for us to get products for our daughter (That is Gluten free for a real medical reason) at fair prices. Thanks Joker!!!
 

BMC9670

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Oh and if you truly believe that "gluten free" is the reason for Novaks transformation I would like to sell you some property on the moon. Low low price, full development rights....

Nah, Mars is where it's at now…the moon is so "Zone Diet". :wink:
 

DRII

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Diet is a huge factor in health, and the US is not in a good place in that regard. Diet fads are part of the culture and the capitalization of the entire process. Perhaps Japan has better fads?:)

some would say that the now huge reliance on wheat, and therefore gluten, is a colossal commercial fad generated mostly for profit :rolleyes:

of course eating lots of energy dense/low nutrient bread and other processed wheat flour products is better than going hungry, but in the 1st world lack of calories is largely not a problem, its lack of proper nutrition...
 

Nostradamus

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my doctor said if I had Gluten allergy, I would have Diarrhea all the time so I would know for sure, if I was.......

This sounds like Quakery to me.............what do you guys think ?
 

BMC9670

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my doctor said if I had Gluten allergy, I would have Diarrhea all the time so I would know for sure, if I was.......

This sounds like Quakery to me.............what do you guys think ?

I think the distinction would be weather there is a sensitivity, an allergy, or Celiac Disease, which would be accompanied by a range of severity in symptoms.

IMO, the fad is perpetuated by those who think they have one of the above or try gluten free based on a book or video, and lose weight or have more energy. Great, but this could very well be from just eating less heavy foods, or eating better foods, or just eating less.
 

DRII

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I think the distinction would be weather there is a sensitivity, an allergy, or Celiac Disease, which would be accompanied by a range of severity in symptoms.

IMO, the fad is perpetuated by those who think they have one of the above or try gluten free based on a book or video, and lose weight or have more energy. Great, but this could very well be from just eating less heavy foods, or eating better foods, or just eating less.

so the tennis analogy would be you claiming that the use of poly strings is just a fad or graphite decades ago.

sooner or later one needs to accept results.
 
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