GOAT per Slam Analysis

[a10best]

Since most people would agree the French Open is the most difficult slam to win due to longer rallies whuch meansyou need to better physically and have a strategy in your mind to defeat your opponent, and there's the bad bounces too.

Here's why:

Steffi Graf: 6 FO titles - 22 over slams
Serena: 2 FO Ttitles in 19 years on the tour - 19 slams overall

Edge: Graf


Novak Djokovic: 0 FO titles - 8 slams, (2 Wimbledon, 1 USO, 5 Aus )
Rafael Nadal: 9 FO titles - 14 overall slams (2 wimbledon, 2 USO, 1 Aus)
Roger Federer: 1 FO title - 17 slams (7 Wimbledon, 5 USO, 4 AUS )
Sampras: 0 FO titles (7 wimbledons, 5 USO, 2 Aus)

Rafael Nadal by virtue of his French record and it being the toughest to win for almost every U.S. player and all-time greats could be the determining factor. When you include H2H, Fed is not the best.

Sure, the theory takes a small dive when you include Gaudio, Bruguera, or Kuerten having only won the French Open and not getting farther in the other slams by any means. Yet, if we just look at just all-time great players, the French is the hardest. The records speak for themselves.

All the rest are great fast court players and Nadal has proven his success there too having won them all, as well as being runner-up in 2 Wimbledons and a couple of Aussie Opens. Hey, I'd prefer for it to favor Roger but I am being objective here.

Remember players don't pick their players or era so throw that weak argument out.

 

[tennisaddict]

Clay tests endurance. Grass tests quick reflex . Hard court balances both and is the predominant surface on the tour.

Fed rules HC with 5 USO (Consecutive) and 4 AO. There is your answer.

Tennis greats need rated on overall skills and not endurance /ball retreiving alone.

 

[nguyentuanson16792]

Since most people would agree the French Open is the most difficult slam to win due to longer rallies whuch meansyou need to better physically and have a strategy in your mind to defeat your opponent, and there's the bad bounces too.

Here's why:

Steffi Graf: 6 FO titles - 22 over slams
Serena: 2 FO Ttitles in 19 years on the tour - 19 slams overall

Edge: Graf


Novak Djokovic: 0 FO titles - 8 slams, (2 Wimbledon, 1 USO, 5 Aus )
Rafael Nadal: 9 FO titles - 14 overall slams (2 wimbledon, 2 USO, 1 Aus)
Roger Federer: 1 FO title - 17 slams (7 Wimbledon, 5 USO, 4 AUS )
Sampras: 0 FO titles (7 wimbledons, 5 USO, 2 Aus)

Rafael Nadal by virtue of his French record and it being the toughest to win for almost every U.S. player and all-time greats could be the determining factor. When you include H2H, Fed is not the best.

Sure, the theory takes a small dive when you include Gaudio, Bruguera, or Kuerten having only won the French Open and not getting farther in the other slams by any means. Yet, if we just look at just all-time great players, the French is the hardest. The records speak for themselves.

All the rest are great fast court players and Nadal has proven his success there too having won them all, as well as being runner-up in 2 Wimbledons and a couple of Aussie Opens. Hey, I'd prefer for it to favor Roger but I am being objective here.

Remember players don't pick their players or era so throw that weak argument out.

Of course In French, you have to be talented and strongest player but in Wimbledon, talent is enough so GOAT of FO obviously Nadal

 

[NatF]

Clay is only the hardest to win because few all-time greats from the US have actually prioritized it. Instead they tailored their games for faster courts. If it was the hardest to win you wouldn't have a load of dirt ballers who barely won anything outside of clay doing well there. These 'better' players would have succeeded everywhere...

 

[GabeT]

Since most people would agree the French Open is the most difficult slam to win

Stop right there young man. Most people do not agree on that. At all.

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Since most people would agree the French Open is the most difficult slam to win due to longer rallies whuch meansyou need to better physically and have a strategy in your mind to defeat your opponent, and there's the bad bounces too.

I don't agree with this at all. Yes, the rallies are longer and the game is more physical at the french because of the clay, but this applies to your opponent equal to how it applies to yourself.

I would say the slams are roughly equal in terms of difficulty. The hard court slams are probably slightly harder than the other two as most players on the tour favour hard court play and therefore the competition is a little stronger.

 

[ledwix]

If the French is the hardest to win, and Nadal won it 9 times, he should be able to win Wimbledon at least 10 times. But that's not how it works, which makes this notion of difficulty kind of meaningless. It's a zero-sum game; someone is going to win the tournament once every year.

RG is the ultimate tennis endurance competition.

Wimbledon is the ultimate tennis skills competition and is a much better indicator of who the #1 player in the world is.

 

[a10best]

If the French is the hardest to win, and Nadal won it 9 times, he should be able to win Wimbledon at least 10 times. But that's not how it works, which makes this notion of difficulty kind of meaningless. It's a zero-sum game; someone is going to win the tournament once every year.

RG is the ultimate tennis endurance competition.

Wimbledon is the ultimate tennis skills competition and is a much better indicator of who the #1 player in the world is.

Nadal is 4-0 against Federer in RG finals.
Federer is 2-2 against Nadal in Wimbledon finals
Record is 6-2 - Nadal with just those two slams

Nadal is 1-0 against Roger at AO in final
7-2 now.

Djokvic will make it interesting the next few years. He could become the all-time best if he adds a couple of FO to his slam resume. He now has a big serve, outstanding overall game, and his volleys improved.

 

[spinovic]

Open Era

26 different French Open Champions
21 different Wimbledon Champions

There is no 'toughest' major to win. They're all tough and all require different strengths and tactics. Some reward aggression and quick strike tennis more, some favor defending and point construction more.

Doesn't make one tougher than the other.

 

[R_Federer]

Why is Djokovic in this discussion lol?

 

[GabeT]

Nadal is 4-0 against Federer in RG finals.
Federer is 2-2 against Nadal in Wimbledon finals
Record is 6-2 - Nadal with just those two slams

Nadal is 1-0 against Roger at AO in final
7-2 now.

Djokvic will make it interesting the next few years. He could become the all-time best if he adds a couple of FO to his slam resume. He now has a big serve, outstanding overall game, and his volleys improved.

Fed beats Nadal in three of the four Slams. Not even close.

Fed beats Nadal in YE1. Not even close.

No comparison between the two.

 

[SpinToWin]

Rarely have I recognized a troll thread as such within 10 words....