GOAT Race at age 32

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titoelcolombiano

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Meaning the year that each player turned 32 - I'll update Rafa's stats as the year goes on:

Rafa (age 32 in 2018):
  • 17 Slams
  • 4 Year End # 1
  • 178 Weeks at # 1
  • 0 WTF titles
  • 32 Masters 1000 titles
  • 79 career titles
  • 1 Olympic Singles Gold medal

Fed (age 32 in 2013):
  • 17 slams
  • 5 Year End # 1
  • 303 weeks at # 1
  • 6 WTF titles
  • 21 Masters 1000 titles
  • 77 career titles
  • 0 Olympic Singles Gold medal

Slams - equal
YE # 1 - Fed
Weeks at # 1 - Fed
WTF - Fed
M1000 - Rafa
Career Titles - Rafa
Olympic Singles Gold - Rafa

Fed leads convincingly in weeks at # 1 and WTF titles but Rafa leads convincingly at Masters 1000 level and has a slight lead in overall career titles. These two have had amazing careers and I think the closeness of this at the same age is quite stunning. Fed has, of course had a late career surge which adds tremendously to his legacy.
 
Isnt it more easy to accept that both of them are top 2 ( top 3 with Djokovic) and just enjoy for what they are instead of constanly comparing them and nitpick on stats.
 
MasturB said:
Fed didn't blossom until way later in age.

Rafa started becoming a force at a way younger age than Fed.

It's not the best to compare them via age. Compare them through tourneys and matches played instead.
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32 years old is old enough to counter balance that stuff. It's still a good comparison by itself IMO. Rafa had the lead early on but now it's tied.
 
I wouldn't call a 32-27 lead in Master's 1000's' a convincing lead in any case , considering the two numbers are so large to begin with . But if you take into account that 11 of those 32 are from Monte-Carlo which is the only non-mandatory M1000 (i think a top player can skip it if he fulfills additional ATP 500 requirements for the year) then it further makes Nadal's M1000 lead even less convincing as over one third of his total M1000's come from just the one event , & if you add in Rome then that boosts it up to 18 from 32 are from 2 of 9 M1000 tournaments . which is a hefty clay skew considering only 3 of the 9 M1000's are played on clay.

I'd call Federer's 6-0 in WTF's an absolute flush , it's not even close to the M1000 difference that Nadal has over Federer.

Furthermore , Fed's total weeks @ #1 was 302 back then , not 303.
 
Im(moral) Winner said:
He got it together as a player in 2013.
His DC record before that was 17-20.
Do you want a Happy Meal with that Clow_Order, lmao.
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Yeah and nice to see you leave out Olympic Gold in doubles in 2008...

Both Swiss just didn't take Davis Cup seriously because they were only interested in playing for themselves.

and whats "Clow"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
The_Order said:
Yeah and nice to see you leave out Olympic Gold in doubles in 2008...

Both Swiss just didn't take Davis Cup seriously because they were only interested in playing for themselves.

and whats "Clow"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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What are Federer's and Nadal's W-L records in Davis Cup?

8-)
 
The_Order said:
Yeah and nice to see you leave out Olympic Gold in doubles in 2008...

Both Swiss just didn't take Davis Cup seriously because they were only interested in playing for themselves.

and whats "Clow"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Winning muglympics doesn't make Marc Lopez a great player.
Yeah, both Fed and Stan have just happened to play more DC matches than RAFA
A typo HAHAHA XDXDXD
 
MasturB said:
Fed didn't blossom until way later in age.

Rafa started becoming a force at a way younger age than Fed.

It's not the best to compare them via age. Compare them through tourneys and matches played instead.
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Agreed. So strange to see people comparing them by age. A more accurate measure would be their first big season (when they won their maiden Slam) and how old both were when it happened - 2003 vs 2005. So Fed has been a real top player since the age of 21-22 (for 15 years) and Rafa - since he was 18-19 (for 13 years). Therefore, the 5 year age gap doesn't matter that much.
 
Not to nitpick, (ok maybe to nitpick) but the next 3 things after number of slams in the OP have always been considered more important than the bottom 3 things, except maybe number of titles.

But anyway, both Rafa and Fed have been amazing so we'll see what happens from here. I wouldn't be a tennis fan if not for Federer in the first place, and Rafa has been a great rival for him, even when he's driven my blood pressure through the roof in various matches. ;)
 
Im(moral) Winner said:
Winning muglympics doesn't make Marc Lopez a great player.
Yeah, both Fed and Stan have just happened to play more DC matches than RAFA
A typo HAHAHA XDXDXD
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Yeah because they haven't been injured as much as him.

They play to pretend they care but in reality they didn't gaf.

If they could win Olympic gold in doubles then surely if they took Davis Cup seriously they'd have had more success.

Just more excuses from Fed "CLOW" worshippers HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
The_Order said:
Yeah because they haven't been injured as much as him.

They play to pretend they care but in reality they didn't gaf.

If they could win Olympic gold in doubles then surely if they took Davis Cup seriously they'd have had more success.

Just more excuses from Fed "CLOW" worshippers HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Another interesting piece of information is that Nadal already has the same number of slams Federer had the day he became 35.

It remains to be seen how long can Nadal keep playing and how long he can keep competing for GS titles.
 
Damn that's actually a lot closer than I thought. I'm still not sure if Nadal would be able to win at least three more slams within the next 5 years though.
 
clout said:
Damn that's actually a lot closer than I thought. I'm still not sure if Nadal would be able to win at least three more slams within the next 5 years though.
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Just think about it. Nadal is going to win the slam race, but Federer is going to win the H2H, (ok Fed won't really win the H2H because they won't play 9-10 more matches, but humour me) ;). After all these years we've had it all wrong. :D
 
Tennis_Hands said:
No, you made it for me.

I just kicked the chair from beneath you.
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You haven't kicked anything in your life marshmallow.

As usual, you have no idea what you're on about.

Fed loves to keep up his persona, he even admitted himself that Davis Cup isn't a priority for him...
 
Mr Feeny said:
We don't understand childish vernacular. Try typing like an adult and people will take you seriously.
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You guys specialize in childish vernacular. It's not only how you speak, but also how you act.

*note - not all Fed fans are like this, just talking about the majority...
 
Steve0904 said:
Just think about it. Nadal is going to win the slam race, but Federer is going to win the H2H, (ok Fed won't really win the H2H because they won't play 9-10 more matches, but humour me) ;). After all these years we've had it all wrong. :D
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That would be very hilarious
 
The_Order said:
You guys specialize in childish vernacular. It's not only how you speak, but also how you act.

*note - not all Fed fans are like this, just talking about the majority...
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Nobody specializes in that more than you do, so you would know.
Now, grow up and act like an adult.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
Meaning the year that each player turned 32 - I'll update Rafa's stats as the year goes on:

Rafa (age 32 in 2018):
  • 17 Slams
  • 4 Year End # 1
  • 178 Weeks at # 1
  • 0 WTF titles
  • 32 Masters 1000 titles
  • 79 career titles
  • 1 Olympic Singles Gold medal

Fed (age 32 in 2013):
  • 17 slams
  • 5 Year End # 1
  • 303 weeks at # 1
  • 6 WTF titles
  • 21 Masters 1000 titles
  • 77 career titles
  • 0 Olympic Singles Gold medal

Slams - equal
YE # 1 - Fed
Weeks at # 1 - Fed
WTF - Fed
M1000 - Rafa
Career Titles - Rafa
Olympic Singles Gold - Rafa

Fed leads convincingly in weeks at # 1 and WTF titles but Rafa leads convincingly at Masters 1000 level and has a slight lead in overall career titles. These two have had amazing careers and I think the closeness of this at the same age is quite stunning. Fed has, of course had a late career surge which adds tremendously to his legacy.
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Since there are 3 MS1000 on clay and no MS1000 on grass, it's not a surprise that Nadal is ahead in this stat.

You left out so many stats that Roger has over Nadal. Level of domination and consistency is where Federer totally outshines Nadal.

Federer is the only player to win 3 out of 4 slams three times(Nadal only one)
Federer had 3 with 90+ winning percentage(Nadal only one)
Federer made all 4 slam finals 3 times(Nadal none)
Federer reaches 10 consecutive slam finals
Federer reaches 18 out of 19 slam finals
Federer reaches 23 consecutive slam semifinals
Federer 237 consecutive weeks at no. 1(Nadal holds the record for 160 weeks at no. 2:))
Federer had 3 years with a 90+ winning percentage(not including 2017)
 
TMF said:
Since there are 3 MS1000 on clay and no MS1000 on grass, it's not a surprise that Nadal is ahead in this stat.

You left out so many stats that Roger has over Nadal. Level of domination and consistency is where Federer totally outshines Nadal.

Federer is the only player to win 3 out of 4 slams three times(Nadal only one)
Federer had 3 with 90+ winning percentage(Nadal only one)
Federer made all 4 slam finals 3 times(Nadal none)
Federer reaches 10 consecutive slam finals
Federer reaches 18 out of 19 slam finals
Federer reaches 23 consecutive slam semifinals
Federer 237 consecutive weeks at no. 1(Nadal holds the record for 160 weeks at no. 2:))
Federer had 3 years with a 90+ winning percentage(not including 2017)
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Congratulations to Fed on all of the above - he is a great player. If you noticed the initial post wasn't a Fed bashing post - it was to show how close these two great champions are in the major metrics of the game.
 
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