Good and bad Matchups for the big 4?

[Grunge123]

Sorry if this thread has been done a thousand times, I just like to know people's opinions. Just list 3 for each,

Good Matchups for Federer
Ferrer, Youzhny, Haas

Bad Matchups for Federer
Nadal, Berdych, Gulbis

Good Matchups for Nadal
Berdych, Gasquet, Robredo

Bad Matchups for Nadal
Djokovic, Del Potro, Nishikori

Good Matchups for Djokovic
Berdych, Cilic, Ferrer

Bad Matchups for Djokovic
Isner, Federer, Verdasco(Djokovic seems to play poorly against him for some reason

Good Matchups for Murray
Simon, Lopez, Tsonga

Bad Matchups for Murray
Berdych, Wawrinka, Raonic


These are just some of my opinions, it's difficult to think of difficult matchups for Djokovic since he doesn't lose to the same player a lot, so I just picked the ones who he sometimes doesn't play his best against

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

Good match up for the Big 4: Almost every players, except for a few

Bad match up for the Big 4:

1. Federer: Nadal, Berdych, Gulbis

Players who used to be a bad match up for Fed: Murray, Simon


2. Djokovic: Federer, Safin, Roddick

Player used to be a bad match up for Djokovic: Tsonga


3. Nadal: Djokovic, Davydenko, Nalbandian

Player used to be a bad match up for Nadal: Blake


4. Murray: Nadal, Berdych, Fish, Gonzalez

 

[Mainad]

Good match up for the Big 4: Almost every players, except for a few

Bad match up for the Big 4:

1. Federer: Nadal, Berdych, Gulbis

Players who used to be a bad match up for Fed: Murray, Simon


2. Djokovic: Federer, Safin, Roddick

Player used to be a bad match up for Djokovic: Tsonga


3. Nadal: Djokovic, Davydenko, Nalbandian

Player used to be a bad match up for Nadal: Blake

4. Murray: Nadal, Berdych, Raonic

Player used to be a bad match up for Murray: Gonzalez

Amended that one for you! :wink:

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

4. Murray: Nadal, Berdych, Raonic

Player used to be a bad match up for Murray: Gonzalez

Amended that one for you! :wink:

So many bad match up for Murray. Wawrinka also has his number recently, he beat Murray more often.

 

[Mainad]

So many bad match up for Murray. Wawrinka also has his number recently, he beat Murray more often.

With his recent drop in form, a few other players he used to dominate like Wawrinka have managed to turn tables on him in the last year or so. However, he still currently owns the overall H2H with him 8-6 unlike the players you listed.

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

With his recent drop in form, a few other players he used to dominate like Wawrinka have managed to turn tables on him in the last year or so. However, he still currently owns the overall H2H with him 8-6 unlike the players you listed.

Murray still keep his H2H vs other players who he dominates like Simon, Dimitrov. Wawrinka may turn the table, he improved a lot since 2013. Wawa adds more power in his groundstroke than before

 

[Mainad]

Murray still keep his H2H vs other players who he dominates like Simon, Dimitrov. Wawrinka may turn the table, he improved a lot since 2013. Wawa adds more power in his groundstroke than before

The only remaining question mark over Wawrinka is his consistency. We will soon see how much he has improved in that department when he attempts to defend his Aussie Open title in a month's time!

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

The only remaining question mark over Wawrinka is his consistency. We will soon see how much he has improved in that department when he attempts to defend his Aussie Open title in a month's time!

Yep, Wawrinka and Berdych, big question mark for their consistency and choking

 

[kOaMaster]

I don't think Gulbis is necessarily a "bad matchup" for Federer.
Murray is certainly one. Simon is also a bad matchup, Tsonga or perhaps Benneteau.

As bad matchups for Nadal I would include Del Potro and Hewitt (used to be).

 

[SQA333]

I don't think Gulbis is necessarily a "bad matchup" for Federer.
Murray is certainly one. Simon is also a bad matchup, Tsonga or perhaps Benneteau.

As bad matchups for Nadal I would include Del Potro and Hewitt (used to be).

How was Hewitt a bad match up for Nadal? He had no firepower whatsoever.

 

[kOaMaster]

Would you recall Ferrer or Davydenko having "firepower"?
I just have the memory of Hewitt troubling Nadal quite a bit during 04-08. Not many players did so.

 

[President]

Would you recall Ferrer or Davydenko having "firepower"?
I just have the memory of Hewitt troubling Nadal quite a bit during 04-08. Not many players did so.

I would agree with that, Hewitt beat Nadal in their first 3 meetings (even if the first two were only in 2004) and even took a couple sets off him on clay in 2006 and 2007. Since then Nadal hasn't lost a set to him though, although given Hewitt's dramatic fall due to injury it's not a surprise.

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

I don't think Gulbis is necessarily a "bad matchup" for Federer.
Murray is certainly one. Simon is also a bad matchup, Tsonga or perhaps Benneteau.

As bad matchups for Nadal I would include Del Potro and Hewitt (used to be).

Gulbis has the power and game to trouble Federer. Fed's getting old and he struggles with big hitters. He did very well against them in the past

Simon used to be a bad match up but Fed figured him out and turned the table.

Prime Hewitt would be a bad match up for Rafa

 

[TheMusicLover]

The only remaining question mark over Wawrinka is his consistency. We will soon see how much he has improved in that department when he attempts to defend his Aussie Open title in a month's time!

Most definitely. Wawa must be one of the biggest "up-and-down"-players right now. The outlooks are pretty decent for him right now I think, as it was mainly due to him that the Swiss team managed to bag the DC title at the tail end of this season. I can only hope he will manage to continue that kind of form coming into AO2015, but I sure wouldn't put my money on it!

 

[triforce defender]

Sorry if this thread has been done a thousand times, I just like to know people's opinions. Just list 3 for each,

Good Matchups for Federer
Ferrer, Youzhny, Haas

Bad Matchups for Federer
Nadal, Berdych, Gulbis

Good Matchups for Nadal
Berdych, Gasquet, Robredo

Bad Matchups for Nadal
Djokovic, Del Potro, Nishikori

Good Matchups for Djokovic
Berdych, Cilic, Ferrer

Bad Matchups for Djokovic
Isner, Federer, Verdasco(Djokovic seems to play poorly against him for some reason

Good Matchups for Murray
Simon, Lopez, Tsonga

Bad Matchups for Murray
Berdych, Wawrinka, Raonic


These are just some of my opinions, it's difficult to think of difficult matchups for Djokovic since he doesn't lose to the same player a lot, so I just picked the ones who he sometimes doesn't play his best against

How is Nishikori a bad matchup for Nadal? He is yet to beat him in 7 matches!

 

[HipRotation]

Good matchup for Murray: Left handers aside from a certain Rafa

 

[Grunge123]

How is Nishikori a bad matchup for Nadal? He is yet to beat him in 7 matches!

You're right, Nadal always beats him but I feel as though Nadal struggles a lot against him, I was going to put Nalbandian or Davydenko as a bad matchup but both are retired.