Gosen OG Sheep Micro Crosses

darklore009

Hall of Fame
I strung with my TT 95 with Protuff in the mains and OG Sheep Micro on the crosses. Oddly, the crosses started to move all over the place. Wanted to ask if this has happened to anyone when they used this on their cross on their hybrid. Maybe I got a bad lemon with the reel or something.
 

JoshTheLMT

Rookie
I use it in a Prince TT 100P, as a cross with Hyper G. Hyper G @ 51, and OG @ 55 (highest recommended tension per Racquet specs). It’s definitely more likely to move than the Hyper G, but I wouldn’t say it’s too much at that tension. Maybe bump it up next time?


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RaiderRed

Rookie
Well it is a synthetic gut string so it's bound to move around some and not snap back as much as say a poly would. Are both the mains and crosses strung at 52? If that's the case I would suggest dropping the tension of the mains down to 50 and upping the tension of the crosses to 54. That's what I usually go with for my hybrid setup, and feel like I get just as much pop with the mains with slightly better feel and pocketing with the tighter synthetic crosses.
 

Zverev

Professional
I am thinking...technique? I mean, when you hit right, the ball just slides along the crosses.
I am using Gosen Micro with various tensions, based on the racket, from 50 to 60 lbs - haven't noticed any such issues.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Played with Solinco Tour Bite, Hyper G and Lux Alu mains with Gosen Micro Sheep crosses. Strung the crosses 4lbs higher than the mains and it played really well. No issues. 48/52-50/54 RF97.
 

alexdoro

New User
Played with Solinco Tour Bite, Hyper G and Lux Alu mains with Gosen Micro Sheep crosses. Strung the crosses 4lbs higher than the mains and it played really well. No issues. 48/52-50/54 RF97.
Which one you liked best? Did you like better than full poly stringbed?
 

Simon_the_furry

Hall of Fame
I strung with my TT 95 with Protuff in the mains and OG Sheep Micro on the crosses. Oddly, the crosses started to move all over the place. Wanted to ask if this has happened to anyone when they used this on their cross on their hybrid. Maybe I got a bad lemon with the reel or something.
OGSM is a slippery string. It moves a decent bit, but not as much as some synthetics.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
GOGSM is my go-to cross in hybrid string setups. I only get extreme movement when re-stringing is long overdue. Otherwise, they resist movement as well as any nylon based string, even with their 18g.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Its a syn.gut issue. See if pre stretching helps, but I doubt it.
lately ive been using exclusively very thin polys 18g or 19g, the softer the better for me..
I messed around with syngut OGSM for a long time, but no syn.gut beats a slick thin poly,,, AT THAT LOW PRICE POINT, for crosses.. again, just my liking..
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
What happens is the mains string up quite a bit tighter than the crosses.(35% difference) The synthetic gut doesn’t support the poly mains if strung at the same tension and the poly gets stretched out really quick then the string bed turns to mush. That’s why the syn gut crosses drift around. The only way to bring the mains and crosses closer together is go up on the tension of the crosses about 4lbs. That will resolve the syn gut crosses moving around and allow the string bed to play more consistent for a longer period of time.
 
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rst

Rookie
i have used the 18g quite a bit. full beds and kevlar hybrids on small head rackets...85 to 93. tight and open patterns. with a certain hitting style it has very good durability for its type. im a flattish forehand and ohbh slicey to flat ...with some pushing behavior. i found lighter weight stiffer, 93 squin with open patterns gave very good flat depth and directional control...excellent punchy slice balls at 39 to 40 lbs of tension and it was comfortable. good blends of spin and flattish power on serve to.

when 18g og sheep is used in a 16oz very flexy max 200g with 18 x 20 pattern use the 18g kevlar at 56 lbs and the og sheep micro 18g at the same tension, this tight spinny control oriented bed works will with the really flexy old dunlop 200g giving balanced spin and directional control with regularly low margins over the net. makes vollyes sit on command opposite the net.

does nicely in pro staff 90s on its own at mid to high 40s for certain play styles. its cheap so you can experiment a bit with it on different sticks. the outer skin roughs up a bit pretty soon and enhances spin.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
What happens is the mains string up quite a bit tighter than the crosses.(35%+) The synthetic gut doesn’t support the poly mains if strung at the same tension and the poly gets stretched out really quick then the string bed turns to mush. That’s why the syn gut crosses drift around. The only way to bring the mains and crosses closer together is go up on the tension of the crosses about 4lbs. That will resolve the syn gut crosses moving around and allow the string bed to play more consistent for a longer period of time.
Where are you getting the 35% number? And the 4lbs number?

If both are strung at say 50 lbs and the mains string 35% tighter that would mean the mains are now at 67lbs. How is it possible for a string to be 17lb over reference?

In my 86/86 kev/poly hybrid that would mean the mains are at 116lbs!

Maybe you are meaning to say the crosses end up 35% lower than the mains?? That would make some sense due to string friction. If so then the crosses would be at 32lbs. But then the racquet would be squashed and break and heads would explode. And 4 lbs would not make much difference at all.

So I am having trouble believing anything in that post.

Please explain
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I strung with my TT 95 with Protuff in the mains and OG Sheep Micro on the crosses. Oddly, the crosses started to move all over the place. Wanted to ask if this has happened to anyone when they used this on their cross on their hybrid. Maybe I got a bad lemon with the reel or something.
Stringing lower tensions and going up 4lbs on the crosses will solve the riddle.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Where are you getting the 35% number? And the 4lbs number?

If both are strung at say 50 lbs and the mains string 35% tighter that would mean the mains are now at 67lbs. How is it possible for a string to be 17lb over reference?

In my 86/86 kev/poly hybrid that would mean the mains are at 116lbs!

Maybe you are meaning to say the crosses end up 35% lower than the mains?? That would make some sense due to string friction. If so then the crosses would be at 32lbs. But then the racquet would be squashed and break and heads would explode. And 4 lbs would not make much difference at all.

So I am having trouble believing anything in that post.

Please explain
That’s some fuzzy math. The mains end up higher and the crosses end up lower which creates the 30-35% difference. Read Guts and Glory tennis and they do a fairly good job explaining why it works. I just know it does from using that method at lower tensions with hybrids.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
That’s some fuzzy math. The mains end up higher and the crosses end up lower which creates the 30-35% difference. Read Guts and Glory tennis and they do a fairly good job explaining why it works. I just know it does from using that method at lower tensions with hybrids.
They usually have good stuff like the jet or 20 sec pulls but the blog I read where they do the 4lbs rec which by the way they lower to 2 lbs to avoid reaching the elastic threshold of some poly (lmao) was pretty thin. 1st there is no justification for their numbers that I saw. No justification for the 35% no justification for their target of 20-25%. They just state it.

That part about the mains not being supported enough is crazy funny. 4 lbs will suddenly give the mains all the support they need. Now the string bed will work in unison. Come on. Thats nonsensical at best.

And the kicker is that they are basing the 4lb number of readings from the string meter which has a margin of error of +\- 2.5 lbs or more margin of error than their 4lb recommendation. Lmao

And they seem to be trying to help with tension loss but if they would just do a real prestretch it would be much better than their 4 lbs rec. but maybe they overlook that because the crappy L-tec strings cant stand tensions over 40lbs.

Glad it works for you but I dont believe anymof their rationale and clearly they have not ventured that far out of the industry dogma
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
They usually have good stuff like the jet or 20 sec pulls but the blog I read where they do the 4lbs rec which by the way they lower to 2 lbs to avoid reaching the elastic threshold of some poly (lmao) was pretty thin. 1st there is no justification for their numbers that I saw. No justification for the 35% no justification for their target of 20-25%. They just state it.

That part about the mains not being supported enough is crazy funny. 4 lbs will suddenly give the mains all the support they need. Now the string bed will work in unison. Come on. Thats nonsensical at best.

And the kicker is that they are basing the 4lb number of readings from the string meter which has a margin of error of +\- 2.5 lbs or more margin of error than their 4lb recommendation. Lmao

And they seem to be trying to help with tension loss but if they would just do a real prestretch it would be much better than their 4 lbs rec. but maybe they overlook that because the crappy L-tec strings cant stand tensions over 40lbs.

Glad it works for you but I dont believe anymof their rationale and clearly they have not ventured that far out of the industry dogma
What ever you need to tell yourself on all that. It doesn’t matter if you agree with them but it works. String beds last a long time and play well.
Stringing full poly I just string the crosses and mains at the same tension or up a couple of lbs on the mains but this method is particularly helpful with poly/multi, poly/syn gut and poly/gut. 4lbs up on crosses for 16x19 frames and 2lbs up on the crosses for 18x20 frames.
 
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