Got an inkling Fed will give the old CYGS one last try this year

merlinpinpin

Hall of Fame
This is 100% dependant on his fitness, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if he played Madrid + RG, especially if Nadal doesn't seem totally dominant at the start of the clay season. 2018 is definitely the end of an era, like 1969 was, so I think he'll give it one last try so as to have no regret.

Not saying he's a shoe-in, of course, that would be as ridiculous as saying that Nadal can easily get to 20+ or that Djokovic is just one decent run away from overtaking Fed. Still, he probably wouldn't want to be resting and getting ready for Wimbledon and see Nadal crash out before QF at RG, for example (that would probably feel like a missed opportunity). So I think if he can, he'll play and see how the chips fall.

Oh, and he's definitely going for #1, too (and YE #1 if he can, of course), the only real question is *when*, so as not to wreck his schedule. But #1 at 36/37 is 100% on his to-do list, imho. That would be much more amazing that any slam victory at his age.
 

Feather

Legend
I am 99% sure Roger Federer will not play RG. He knows very well that he will not even reach QF at RG.

Rafa is not the problem for Roger at RG, or Rafa will not be a problem for Roger coz as top seeds they are going to face only in final and Roger is not going to reach QF let alone final :( The last realistic chance he had of winning RG was in 2011.

See his results
2011 final
2012 SF
2013 QF
2014 fourth round
2015 QF

it shows a steady decline and by 2013 he has reached a point where he will not even REACH Rafa or Novak Djokovic, the top two contenders
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
If Rafa shows poor form in Monte Carlo/Barcelona Roger might consider 'activating' his clay court season in Madrid and going all out for Rome/RG. But Rafa has to be either in horrible form/injured for him to consider it.
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
I hear this year they will use actual mud/sh*t formula for the French Open. Rafa has specified the exact ratio required.
 

BGod

Legend
If he plays Dubai for the #1 ranking and skips IW/Miami then maybe.

I'm assuming he's skipping Miami anyway so IW is the big question. He'd have to play a warm-up for the French so if he's going to go for it IW/Miami both irrelevant.
 

World Beater

Hall of Fame
thoretically i agree.

the perfect preparation for federer is to play madrid.

Given the current run of H2H, if federer can beat nadal in madrid which is possible if he plays well...his chances against go from punchers chance to contender at RG even if Nadal is the obvious #1 favorite.

Its a truly fairy tale scenario, and federer would have to increase his level substantially to even have a chance...

It wouldn't hurt if federer can dent nadal's confidence with one more victory during the sunshine double swing.

Not sure it will happen though. it seems to insane, far fetched even for federer. i am not sure he believes it...even if fed fans dream it...
 
I am 99% sure Roger Federer will not play RG. He knows very well that he will not even reach QF at RG.

Rafa is not the problem for Roger at RG, or Rafa will not be a problem for Roger coz as top seeds they are going to face only in final and Roger is not going to reach QF let alone final :( The last realistic chance he had of winning RG was in 2011.

See his results
2011 final
2012 SF
2013 QF
2014 fourth round
2015 QF

it shows a steady decline and by 2013 he has reached a point where he will not even REACH Rafa or Novak Djokovic, the top two contenders
Mate, you’re using results from when Federer had a dip on all surfaces and 4 of those years he didn’t win a major.

Roger is playing a better and more efficient game now than most of those years and more importantly it seems like a lot of the top guys form has fallen off a cliff.

I for one do not think he has a decent chance of winning RG at all and won’t play it but using his recent form at the event just doesn’t work. I just think that 1. Clay is too taxing on the body especially at this stage of his career, 2. He does and has always had less chance winning there than anywhere else. Risk v reward.
 

Feather

Legend
Mate, you’re using results from when Federer had a dip on all surfaces and 4 of those years he didn’t win a major.

Roger is playing a better and more efficient game now than most of those years and more importantly it seems like a lot of the top guys form has fallen off a cliff.

I for one do not think he has a decent chance of winning RG at all and won’t play it but using his recent form at the event just doesn’t work. I just think that 1. Clay is too taxing on the body especially at this stage of his career, 2. He does and has always had less chance winning there than anywhere else. Risk v reward.
He was injured in 2013, so let us exclude that.

But in 2014 and 2015, he could have won three majors if not for Novak Djokovic. But even if Novak Djokovic and Rafa were not there in those years at RG, Roger couldn't even reach SF. He was losing to guy who would easily beat at hard courts.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
You guys like beating a dead horse. Federer doesn’t care about the no.1, not playing Dubai, Not playing on clay which he remains noncommittal. Federer does not need to chase unnecessary achievement just because fans have a need for him to do them. Prepare to be disappointed. Federer makes decisions based on playing longer and ability to compete, not outdo his rivals at every turn.
 
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titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
I can certainly see a chance Fed winning Wimby and USO - he absolutely has the form, but I don't see him winning RG whether Rafa is there or not.
 
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I can certainly see a chance Fed winning Wimby and USO - he absolutely has the form, but I don't see him winning RG whether Rafa is there or not.
I could see him win without Rafa there but with Rafa he has no chance.
 

DerekNoleFam1

Professional
I can certainly see a chance Fed winning Wimby and USO - he absolutely has the form, but I don't see him winning RG whether Rafa is there or not.
Fed has not won the USO in 10 years, I don't see that one changing, he seems jinxed there, a bit like Nadal at the AO since after 2009.
Wimbledon would be his best chance, who is the most likely challenger there? Cilic again?
He won't jeopardize that by playing on clay.
RG is definitely Nadal's annual harvest for a one or 2 more years at least, he absolutely crushed the field last year.
On the OP, even as a Djoker fan he needs more than 1 good run to get 8 or 9 Slams.
He would need to repeat his best period, which was winning 6 of 8 Slams from Wimby 2014 -RG 2016, and would still fall short.
 

limmt

Rookie
He was injured in 2013, so let us exclude that.

But in 2014 and 2015, he could have won three majors if not for Novak Djokovic. But even if Novak Djokovic and Rafa were not there in those years at RG, Roger couldn't even reach SF. He was losing to guy who would easily beat at hard courts.
He lost to a zoning Stanimal in 2015, and was in Rome's Final that year.

With a good draw, he could have made to the RG2015 final.
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
I am 99% sure Roger Federer will not play RG. He knows very well that he will not even reach QF at RG.

Rafa is not the problem for Roger at RG, or Rafa will not be a problem for Roger coz as top seeds they are going to face only in final and Roger is not going to reach QF let alone final :( The last realistic chance he had of winning RG was in 2011.

See his results
2011 final
2012 SF
2013 QF
2014 fourth round
2015 QF

it shows a steady decline and by 2013 he has reached a point where he will not even REACH Rafa or Novak Djokovic, the top two contenders
As I said in another thread: In those years mentioned by you he also wasn’t as good on other surfaces as now. And his new backhand should improve his game on clay more than on other surfaces. On top of that, in 2015 he lost to then invincible Djokovic in the Rome final and to “Stanimal” during his famous RG run. No shame about that, and no indicator for Federer’s chances in 2018.

And please, why the hell will Roger have no chances to even rech QF? You know that he can only face players ranked 13 and lower before that stage? By the way, look at the current condition of men’s tennis and you should know very well that he could reach a SF without even having to grind his body to exhaustion.
 

dh003i

Legend
As I said in another thread: In those years mentioned by you he also wasn’t as good on other surfaces as now. And his new backhand should improve his game on clay more than on other surfaces. On top of that, in 2015 he lost to then invincible Djokovic in the Rome final and to “Stanimal” during his famous RG run. No shame about that, and no indicator for Federer’s chances in 2018.

And please, why the hell will Roger have no chances to even rech QF? You know that he can only face players ranked 13 and lower before that stage? By the way, look at the current condition of men’s tennis and you should know very well that he could reach a SF without even having to grind his body to exhaustion.
It would be fantastic for Federer to win 1 more RG and it isn't impossible that he could do so, but it is just very difficult there because it is really about long rallies at the FO. I don't think his new backhand helps him much on clay, as his new style of play relies on taking the ball very early, as does his new backhand. Because of the irregular bounce, that is very difficult to do on clay.
 

titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
Fed has not won the USO in 10 years, I don't see that one changing, he seems jinxed there, a bit like Nadal at the AO since after 2009.
Wimbledon would be his best chance, who is the most likely challenger there? Cilic again?
He won't jeopardize that by playing on clay.
RG is definitely Nadal's annual harvest for a one or 2 more years at least, he absolutely crushed the field last year.
On the OP, even as a Djoker fan he needs more than 1 good run to get 8 or 9 Slams.
He would need to repeat his best period, which was winning 6 of 8 Slams from Wimby 2014 -RG 2016, and would still fall short.
Good point on the US Open for Fed - it is odd that he hasn't won it for a decade. Re: Wimbledon this year - I would think your man Djokovic may also be a major challenger by that stage.
 

roundiesee

Hall of Fame
Really unlikely given that he has time and again said he is no longer keen on chasing the number one spot and other records. He is just concentrating on looking after his body to play the important events :)
 

moonballs

Hall of Fame
Fed has not won the USO in 10 years, I don't see that one changing, he seems jinxed there, a bit like Nadal at the AO since after 2009.
Wimbledon would be his best chance, who is the most likely challenger there? Cilic again?
He won't jeopardize that by playing on clay.
RG is definitely Nadal's annual harvest for a one or 2 more years at least, he absolutely crushed the field last year.
On the OP, even as a Djoker fan he needs more than 1 good run to get 8 or 9 Slams.
He would need to repeat his best period, which was winning 6 of 8 Slams from Wimby 2014 -RG 2016, and would still fall short.
Last year his chance was blown by the back injury. If he manages it well it will be his chance.
 
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