Gracious Andy

156MPHserve

Professional
I'm just reading his interview after he lost to Baghdatis and it questions me once more, why you guys hate him so much.

Q. Was it one of those where you sort of thought you got outplayed or you didn't play your game?

ANDY RODDICK: Probably a little bit of both. I don't know. Credit to him. I mean, if you look at his stats, they're pretty impressive. The shots he was able to come up with were, you know, very, very good.

You know, I don't know. I just thought maybe I was a little bit spacy out there. Maybe I just wasn't totally on top of things.

Q. How tough is this to have another opportunity to go away?

ANDY RODDICK: It's always tough. But, you know, the good thing about tennis is there's always next week. You know, it's not ‑‑ we're not an Olympic sport where we have to wait another four years.

So, you know, you try to be optimistic right now. It's tough. It's disappointing. You know, but you move on.

Q. Did you have difficulty reading him, those backhands down the line...

ANDY RODDICK: Yeah, he was hitting 'em off of inside‑out forehands that I felt like I was putting a pretty good swing on. They just weren't jumping off the court, I mean, that much. I wasn't expecting him to be able to lean in off an inside‑out forehand and hit 'em consistently and down the line. Credit to him, he was able to.

Q. Did the roof being closed have much of an effect?

ANDY RODDICK: It was different. It was very different. You know, but it was different for him, too. You know, my ball wasn't ‑‑ I don't know if it was jumping as much as it had been. I was feeling through the first three rounds that no one could really get a clean swing at the ball I was putting out there ‑ especially my heavy one. And, you know, like we said, he was able to kind of take it early today.

I don't know how ‑‑ it felt different, but, I mean, he had to deal with it the same as I did.

Q. Kuznetsova and Davenport said it made the court faster to be indoors.

ANDY RODDICK: Faster?

Q. That's what they said.

ANDY RODDICK: Okay.

Q. What's your reaction?

ANDY RODDICK: I don't ‑‑ I disagree, but what do I know.

Q. You didn't seem like you were playing that badly today. Do you think you would have beaten most people today?

ANDY RODDICK: I didn't play that badly. Most times when you lose, you don't have a ‑‑ you know, you don't have your stats plus eight, or whatever I was, as far as winners to errors. The guy you're playing against, you hope he doesn't have plus 32 or whatever, whatever it is that he had.

You know, I looked and I actually won more total points, which is disappointing. You know, I think I would have beaten most people today. But let's give credit where credit's due. I thought he played a very good match.

Q. You patted your stomach after the first point in the sixth game in the last set. Was something wrong there?

ANDY RODDICK: No, I was fine.

Q. At one point you turned to the crowd and said, "What can I do," after some of the winners he was cranking out in the last set.

ANDY RODDICK: Yeah, I was trying to ‑‑ I actually felt like maybe the last little bit after I got broken was some of the best stuff I played. He closed out well. You know, I was ‑‑ like I said, like Chris pointed out earlier, I was surprised that he was able to lean in and hit some of the backhands that he was able to hit off of inside‑out forehands. You know, I haven't seen that before. I was surprised at that.

Q. Any lessons?

ANDY RODDICK: Yeah, there's always lessons. But we don't have enough time for all those.

Q. Would you take the loss as just one of those things that happens sometimes?

ANDY RODDICK: Well, it does happen. I don't know if it's as easy just to shrug off. It's disappointing when you feel like you've put in the work and you don't really ‑‑ you know, there are no unanswered questions in my eyes as far as preparation and stuff like that. So you're kind of left searching a little bit. That's an uneasy feeling.

Q. You obviously hit more winners than your opponent today.

ANDY RODDICK: No, I didn't. He hit 20 more winners than I did today.

Q. Do you feel as though you're able to pretty much activate your game plan that you came into the tournament with, wanted to be more aggressive? Were you true to yourself?

ANDY RODDICK: Yeah. Like I said, a lot of the times, a lot of winners he hit were from passing shots behind the baseline. We were talking about that backhand. You know, a lot of times I was in control of the point, and he came up with the goods. A couple times I was sloppy at the wrong moments. You know, that's the way it is.

Q. No American men in the quarterfinals. That usually only happens in Paris. Any cause for concern back home in the States on the state of American men's tennis?

ANDY RODDICK: You guys are always concerned, aren't you? I mean, if we're playing well at the moment, then it's "Who's next?" If we're not playing well at the time, it's "Who's now?" You guys are always *****ing about something.

Q. Who are "you guys"? What do you mean?

ANDY RODDICK: There's obviously cause for concern if we're not ‑‑ if we're not in. But, you know, that being said, let's ‑‑ I think, you know, it was a bad tournament. I think we'll rebound. I think you'll see Robby and James and all those guys have career years this year. I see that happening. Robby is right on the door of top 10. He has no points to defend for a while.

We're probably really, really disappointed right now. And, you know, especially on a hard surface, you're right. But I don't know if I'd overreact. I think, you know, we still have some talent out there. It's a long year. So I wouldn't ‑‑ I wouldn't pass judgment on one event.

Q. Was the big chorus annoying or don't you even hear them?

ANDY RODDICK: I appreciate people who come out and support tennis. If we had a whole crowd full of, you know, half them, half for me, I mean, that would make for a great atmosphere. They were respectful. They always stopped when I was about to serve. They were just supporting their guy. I can totally respect that as a sports fan.

Q. Did you miss that big group that had been out there for you the first few days?

ANDY RODDICK: Yeah, they close the roof and now they can't sit and sun bathe for me. It's like...

Q. What about Baghdatis? Do you think he can cause more damage?

ANDY RODDICK: He can. It's gonna get ‑‑ I mean, it's tough. He could lose next round or he could, who knows, make a run to the final. He played well enough today to, you know, make me a believer. You know, we'll see.

Q. It seemed like you were coming in a little bit more than usual. Was that a deliberate strategy?

ANDY RODDICK: He was leaving a lot of returns short, and I was hitting decent approach shots and he was coming up with passing shots. I don't know what I'm ‑‑ I guess when a guy's chipping returns inside the service line, I'm coming up, hitting approach shots to a corner, not really getting a look at a volley, you know.

It's something that presented itself, and I felt like that was the right way to go with it. He played well after that, though.

Q. Would you characterize this as a big opportunity missed?

ANDY RODDICK: Most of them are big opportunities missed, you know. I don't know how to grade one against another, you know. They're all not fun when you're in this situation. But it's disappointing, for sure.

Q. I mean just because of the nature of who's left in your half.

ANDY RODDICK: See, that's the thing. I think you guys underestimate a lot of players. I mean, if you watched the match today, I mean, the guy can play tennis. Just 'cause his ranking is not there yet doesn't mean the guy doesn't deserve respect. Nalbandian won Masters and he's playing great. I don't know how you can say "in your half."

I told you guys five days ago that there's no such thing as an open draw. There's a lot of good players out there. There's one guy who has set himself apart, and the rest of men's tennis is very deep where anybody can beat anybody on a given day.
 

Rataplan

Semi-Pro
I usually love reading Andy's interviews.

He's very gracious in defeat here! No excuses and all the respect to his opponent. Some of those journalists fed him a lot of potential excuses but Andy didn't bite. Classy!

I esp. like this bit:
ANDY RODDICK: See, that's the thing. I think you guys underestimate a lot of players. I mean, if you watched the match today, I mean, the guy can play tennis. Just 'cause his ranking is not there yet doesn't mean the guy doesn't deserve respect. Nalbandian won Masters and he's playing great. I don't know how you can say "in your half."

I told you guys five days ago that there's no such thing as an open draw. There's a lot of good players out there. There's one guy who has set himself apart, and the rest of men's tennis is very deep where anybody can beat anybody on a given day.
 

fererrodf

New User
I've also thought that Andy is very gracious in his defeat. Though I really think he needs to improve on several aspects of his game, I must say that his banter is hirlarious and i honestly would like him to do well.
Sort of kinda nice bloke to me!
 

Court_Jester

Hall of Fame
156MPHserve said:
I'm just reading his interview after he lost to Baghdatis and it questions me once more, why you guys hate him so much.
I agree. Unlike other players, male or female, he doesn't make excuses and blame others or things for his losses. There are things that he cannot control, like his opponent being better that day, and he knows it.

I may not be his fan but he gets a lot of my respect and thus, root for him to win whenever possible.
 

dmastous

Professional
Q. You obviously hit more winners than your opponent today.

ANDY RODDICK: No, I didn't. He hit 20 more winners than I did today.

Love it. Typical clueless reporters.
Looks like Roddick had a good look at the stats sheet after the match.
There are definitly those on this board who hate Roddick. It's stupid to be like that. He's always been a classy guy. The thing is the US press has decided that he's the "Next Big Thing". He has the machine behind him and that causes resentment.
He's just a good tennis player working at his trade and doing the best he can with, what I believe are, marginal (for a top pro) athletic skills.
Don't hate the man, hate the machine.
 

dmastous

Professional
Court_Jester said:
I agree. Unlike other players, male or female, he doesn't make excuses and blame others or things for his losses. There are things that he cannot control, like his opponent being better that day, and he knows it.
How many times have you seen Serena or Venus Williams actually credit an opponent for playing better? They usually just say they had a bad day, or they weren't feeling well. Never they other player played better.
Well, I've never heard them say it.:rolleyes:
 

FedererUberAlles

Professional
ANDY RODDICK: You guys are always concerned, aren't you? I mean, if we're playing well at the moment, then it's "Who's next?" If we're not playing well at the time, it's "Who's now?" You guys are always *****ing about something.
Ahahahahahaha.
 

156MPHserve

Professional
Yeah, and if you think about him, I think the conditions were really against him. If they left the roof open, I believe Baghdatis would have tired a bit but Andy would be very fresh throughout the match. Also Andy's balls would jump more, particularly on his second serve, and it would be a totally different match.

Andy simply acknowledged there were changes but did not use it as an excuse. He explains that his opponent is adapting to the same changes... so classy!
 

Grimjack

Banned
156MPHserve said:
Q. You didn't seem like you were playing that badly today. Do you think you would have beaten most people today?

ANDY RODDICK: I didn't play that badly. Most times when you lose, you don't have a ‑‑ you know, you don't have your stats plus eight, or whatever I was, as far as winners to errors. The guy you're playing against, you hope he doesn't have plus 32 or whatever, whatever it is that he had.
We get on so many players (various Williams sisters, in particular) for slighting their opponents in backhanded fashion by saying they (themselves) didn't play well, should have won, etc. Well, this is the flip side, and credit to Andy for saying it. This is the "backhanded" way of saying, "I lost because my opponent took this match by the nuts and outplayed me."

Of course, the fact that Andy went on to state this overtly makes it all the better. He really gets it, and unlike those with a feeling of entitlement, is willing to acknowedge superior play when he faces it. Good for him.

Highest marks to Andy for adapting well to his new ATP role as gracious loser.
 
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laurie

Guest
My personal view is that Roddick has no choice but to always give credit to his opponents as he's getting used to not winning. He's adjusting. I really don't see where and how Roddick can remain a top five player for much longer.

Did my eyes deceive me? Roddick seems to be using a Babolat racket with a smaller head, much like Feliciano Lopez. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
 

ohplease

Professional
Rataplan said:
I usually love reading Andy's interviews.

He's very gracious in defeat here! No excuses and all the respect to his opponent. Some of those journalists fed him a lot of potential excuses but Andy didn't bite. Classy!

I esp. like this bit:
Nice quote.

Andy's fine. People get hot. Roddick prepared. He had good numbers. He might need to work on winning the big points, but it's not like a guy in the top 5 doesn't know how to do that.

I will say that Marcos took a page out of Fed's book on the return, which is surprisingly effective in neutralizing Andy's advantage in his service games. He needs to learn to respond to that short chip.

Marcos also stole out of the book of Courier in exploiting the open forehand corner when Andy goes inside out. Like Courier, Andy's a guy that needs to work from the middle of the court, not the corners.

If Marcos can take that away, and neutralize his serve, too? Then credit to Andy for keeping it as close as he did, because that's taking away the man's bread and butter.
 

Keifers

Legend
Andy has impressed me for a while now as a thoughtful, mature-for-his-age, intelligent young man. He handles questions from the press (many of which are plain stupid or deliberately provocative) really well. He always displays a well-grounded understanding of what's happening on the men's tour and in a tournament.

Unfortunately, he seems to have a blindspot when it comes to thinking his way through a match -- especially when he is being outplayed. According to the commentators, he had a good game plan going into his match against Marcos. But he seemed to forget it along the way, and was very much letting his opponent either win or lose the match.

This is where Goldfine is letting him down, imo. He needs to do a much better job of imprinting the game plan into Andy's brain before the match -- and getting him much more fired up and focused, in part, with excellent scouting of the opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
 

The tennis guy

Hall of Fame
I agree with laurie.

All you guys are saying is Roddick is a more gracious loser than Williams sisters. Losing makes people humble. If you read Williams sisters interview after their loss this year, they were pretty gracious as well.

Roddick has realized many players have good chance beat him if they can neutralize his serve. More and more people are capable to do that these days. It seems to me Roddick became less ambitious the last two years when he seemed resigned to the fact that others beat him! I am not sure that is a good thing at all.
 

idj49

Semi-Pro
Chadwixx said:
"I told you guys five days ago that there's no such thing as an open draw. There's a lot of good players out there. There's one guy who has set himself apart, and the rest of men's tennis is very deep where anybody can beat anybody on a given day."

Congrats to a man who has a career record of 15-16 who is coming off heart surgery, ranked #52. Tough draw

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playernumber=B837
Didn't he have his heart surgery awhile ago and he's played a few tournaments since then. And wasn't Nadal ranked in the 50's at the start of the year last year and look at where he is now?
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
I dont like the duck, he might be gracious in defeat but u know he is burning inside.I also dont like his antics on the court sometimes.He as doing all this fist pumping against guys that stink!He needs to act like he has been there before!
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
156MPHserve said:
You know, I looked and I actually won more total points, which is disappointing. You know, I think I would have beaten most people today. But let's give credit where credit's due. I thought he played a very good match.

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I think this statement really stands out. What the guy is saying is 'i dont know how to play the match correcty at important moments'. I think it is the one single reason why his results arent better these days. rather than him taking this stat as a positive <which he seems to be doing>, it should be a negative, and he should go to work on plqaying better when it really counts. I noticed this at the Wimbledon before last. His biggest serve of the tourney was served up on a 40-15 point <or something like that>. Samps would save those for the times he realy needed the points.
I hope someone has been charting his matches and can show him that he just doesnt play smart tennis out there...gone are the days where he can easily hold serve and just hope for the opponent to have a letdown or two on their serve
 

Chadwixx

Banned
idj49 said:
And wasn't Nadal ranked in the 50's at the start of the year last year and look at where he is now?
Pretty bold prediction to say he will finish number 2 in the world and win 11 tourneys this year. I personally dont see it.
 

idj49

Semi-Pro
Chadwixx said:
Pretty bold prediction to say he will finish number 2 in the world and win 11 tourneys this year. I personally dont see it.
I didn't predict anything, but you tossed his ranking into your post. All I was doing was pointing out that rankings don't always mean too much.
 

Chadwixx

Banned
NoBadMojo said:
gone are the days where he can easily hold serve and just hope for the opponent to have a letdown or two on their serve
Almost serena like, the way she used to blast people off the court, now she cant and is losing due to a 1dimentional game.

Idj, what is the point of this comment if your not making a direct comparison to nadal?

"And wasn't Nadal ranked in the 50's at the start of the year last year and look at where he is now?"

Rankings and match wins/losses do matter? I dont know how anyone could agree. You play matches, if you win your ranking goes up, if you lose then it goes down. Its not rocket science. This guy has a 15-16 career win loss record and will be destroyed in the next round. Nice guy and all , dont get me wrong, but he isnt going to be a top 20 player, stop creating this illusion for yourself so you can feel better about the roddick loss.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Roddick ran into a buzz saw tonight, it could happen to anyone. The real test if if Bahgdatis can do it on a consistent basis. I'd pretty much be willing to bet anything that Roddick finishes 2006 in the top 10.
 
NBJ nailed it. He's not thinking and it appears Goldfine isn't doing a good job of tweaking his talent. I like Andy's work ethic, but he's not making any adjustments on the court or in practice. Watching the match from outside it's definitely easier to see what was happening. Goldfine is gonna have to do a better job at getting him strong on the important points and making his FH a weapon again. It seemed to me they all sat up nicely for MB in that match.
 

alienhamster

Hall of Fame

PM_

Professional
jtreed2000 said:
NBJ nailed it. He's not thinking and it appears Goldfine isn't doing a good job of tweaking his talent. I like Andy's work ethic, but he's not making any adjustments on the court or in practice. Watching the match from outside it's definitely easier to see what was happening. Goldfine is gonna have to do a better job at getting him strong on the important points and making his FH a weapon again. It seemed to me they all sat up nicely for MB in that match.
You can give credit to the Rebound Ace for that.
I agree NBJ is right too. Roddick's mentality seems to be dwindling. Perhaps one too many upsets to handle. Who knows. But he's gotta start thinking like a champ again.
 

alienhamster

Hall of Fame
NoBadMojo said:
I think this statement really stands out. What the guy is saying is 'i dont know how to play the match correcty at important moments'. I think it is the one single reason why his results arent better these days. rather than him taking this stat as a positive <which he seems to be doing>, it should be a negative, and he should go to work on plqaying better when it really counts. I noticed this at the Wimbledon before last. His biggest serve of the tourney was served up on a 40-15 point <or something like that>. Samps would save those for the times he realy needed the points.
I hope someone has been charting his matches and can show him that he just doesnt play smart tennis out there...gone are the days where he can easily hold serve and just hope for the opponent to have a letdown or two on their serve
Couldn't agree more here. This was the big difference in the match. Overall, Roddick played like crap on the break points and 0-30 points while Bagdhatis almost always seemed to step it up.

But Roddick *is* capable of playing the big points well. We've all seen him do it before in big pressure situations. This is why--as much as people want to claim this is all about Roddick having no game--the real issue is one of confidence and mental strength.

If Roddick can get his brain back in the game on points like this, he'll be back on track.

Nice interview as always, btw. Wish his mental focus during the interviews could translate to his court play.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
156MPHserve said:
I'm just reading his interview after he lost to Baghdatis and it questions me once more, why you guys hate him so much.
many people don't have probs with ARod himself, but with the media hullabaloo around him ...
 

devila

Banned
You're giving him too much credit. He has no athletic skills. No physical gifts, whatsoever.

It's sad that people are cheering for him at Davis Cup. I wasn't surprised one bit that he was too satisfied. He thought the inept coaches were helping him a lot. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place.
He knows that he's not doing enough, athletically. His body isn't agile and he's overmuscular in the legs and back.
Yet, he wants to brainlessly play amateur tennis, and still get away with it.
Everyone knows his predictable attitude and can see the self-defeating body language.

There's no evidence that he'll change the court positioning and training regime. I bet he'd happy to be ranked below #10 too.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
jtreed2000 said:
NBJ nailed it. He's not thinking and it appears Goldfine isn't doing a good job of tweaking his talent. I like Andy's work ethic, but he's not making any adjustments on the court or in practice. Watching the match from outside it's definitely easier to see what was happening. Goldfine is gonna have to do a better job at getting him strong on the important points and making his FH a weapon again. It seemed to me they all sat up nicely for MB in that match.
Andy has two choices.

1) Continue to work with goldfine to improve his weaknesses, volleys, approach shots, etc.

2) sack goldfine, rehire gilbert, go back to basics, serve+forehand gameplan.

With choice 1) he'll lose some odd matches trying out new shots and tactics. But he'll eventually improve his game and possibly give himself a chance to beat federer in the future.

With choice 2) He'll win more matches, but not improve his game further and he'll continue to get thumped by federer.

Andy is a manufactuered player. His old coaches did him a great disservice by not focusing him towards an allcourt game. Imho it's very difficult for a player once on tour to change the way they play and hit the ball.

No matter what choices andy makes.
He is heading downwards.
How far is the question.
 

devila

Banned
Roddick thought his serve/forehand were flat, effective and powerful. Footwork didn't matter to him. Nobody watches his old matches and his opponents to coach him better.

Roddick just partied at the players' event. People are taking Roddick seriously even after he showed up all careless and indifferent.
He didn't change from last year. His body was heavy and unflexible; he had no will to win because he didn't trust his shots and ability to chase the ball.
He just wanted money and left.

He can hit better backhand slices, but he's not aggressive. The ball just stayed 5 feet in the air for good ball strikers to smash by him.
Brad does nothing except promote himself and make a big deal of 160 mph serves and brainless bashing.
Dean is so quiet and lets Roddick stay with passive backhands and poor footwork. If I'm in a bad match, I have to expect rallies and hard hitting shots.
 

tangerine

Professional
I love how Andy's graciousness in the face of one humiliating defeat after another has caused some people here to shrug and think that such behavior is normal. Born yesterday, folks? Try reading more than one post-match interview a month.

This strength of Roddick's character is one big reason why I'm a fan of his; I love how he can show his humor so well to the public while you know that he is dying inside. Not even Federer has been this cool when he loses, and he rarely if ever credits his opponents with outplaying him when he does lose.

Marius_Hancu said:
many people don't have probs with ARod himself, but with the media hullabaloo around him ...
A shame said people aren't bright enough to recognize that Roddick the person is a completely separate entity from the media machine. The dumbing-down of America/the world continues.
 

156MPHserve

Professional
I don't think it's Roddick's atheletic ability that's hindering his game.

I remember a very good comment about Agassi. A commentator once said, "Agassi is a talented TENNIS player, while we are seeing more and more talented ATHELETES playing tennis."

I believe Andy is much more of a talented athelete playing tennis. Using his monstrous legs and trunk for that serve and forehand and power away his opponents. He also has a pretty good slice because his shoulder is very flexible and he has decent technique. However, when it comes to things like court sense, he just doesn't have it. So many times he got himself up at the net, and Baghdatis with his speed and great groundstrokes will pound passing shot after passing shot by him. Notice that EVERYTIME he just stands there. Sure Baghdatis has great groundstrokes off both sides and you're not the greatest volleyer. Did he even try to GUESS a side to cover? His anticipation and court sense is so bad he coudln't even guess a side.

IMO Andy is a player who maximized 110% of his potential and unfortunately, in this era it's just not enough.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
156MPHserve said:
I don't think it's Roddick's atheletic ability that's hindering his game.

I remember a very good comment about Agassi. A commentator once said, "Agassi is a talented TENNIS player, while we are seeing more and more talented ATHELETES playing tennis."

I believe Andy is much more of a talented athelete playing tennis.
I believe exactly the opposite. I could see Agassi as an All-Star 2nd baseman on the Dodgers - he'd win the Gold Glove in fielding every year and would be a .300 singles hitter - he hits the ball so pure. Where Roddick doesn't move like an athlete - he looks like a product of someone who had tons of instruction, hit millions of balls, and just through sheer repetition was able to learn to hit the ball - and had the growth spurt that enabled him to have the huge serve. And because of his power game his mobility liability wasn't a problem. Now that people are learning how to get his serve back his lack of athleticism is being exposed.
 

go_nadal

Semi-Pro
i belive that roddick obviously has som talent and some sort of court sense to be in the top 5 players in the world right now.
you dont just get to that possition by fluking it or wateva...
i think he will stay in the top 10 for sure this year and win a few tournys along the way.
 

devila

Banned
his brother was forced to quit tennis at 18, after a back injury.

His bro John's at least 190 pounds at 5 ft 10.
ARodd was at 197 lbs over a year ago. He's now 190-5 lbs.
He was 70 pounds at 12 years old. At 16, he grew 1 foot in 2 years.
He didn't practice for 6 months between 1998-1999 due to back pain.

Both brothers don't have light feet, quickness and power even with a lot of muscle. Roddick isn't well taught with great techniques. The US isn't famous for that anymore.
Lack of confidence and lazy footwork cause him to not try 70%. Tennis fans confuse a lack of work ethic with lack of talent. He lets off court duties interfere with repetitive training.

He was made to hit a lot of balls at the 2000 Davis Cup tie, but he had to stop working for 2 months due to exhaustion.
He had severe leg cramps at the 2001 French Open. In 2002, 2004-5, he surrendered a 2 set lead and lost there again.
 

35ft6

Legend
The tennis guy said:
I agree with laurie.

All you guys are saying is Roddick is a more gracious loser than Williams sisters. Losing makes people humble. If you read Williams sisters interview after their loss this year, they were pretty gracious as well.
He's always been gracious, even when he was winning most of the time.
 
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