TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
Paint it blue and we'll talk
Grass is a disaster....it's 2021....Change the surface to hard, and relocate Wimbledon while you're at it
HitMoreBHs
Professional
Funny how he only rants and raves when things aren’t going well…
Sunny014
Legend
At least in 2013 or 2014 they should have considered the change, it was a big mistake to keep things same. every 8-10 years there should be major changes in Tennis to keep things interesting.
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Deleted member 771911
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I agree. They are just rinsing and repeating and it’s going nowhere.
Technology Ruined Tennis
Hall of Fame
"How many times" has Fed fallen at Wimby?
The only one I can remember is when RaoMug killed him in '16.
The only one I can remember is when RaoMug killed him in '16.
AceSalvo
Legend
Paint it blue and we'll talk
Blue HC, Blue Clay, Blue Grass and Blue Carpet. Bring it on!
Sunny014
Legend
Someone like Nadal developed so much comfort on clay that he won it 13 times, jeez....
Even Federer never had the luxury of playing on the same grass that he grew up with, a bit faster grass and he too could have got 11-12 slams easily here.
Slow conditions have really played into the hands of the baseliners.
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Deleted member 771911
Guest
Yes a very fun match. Please a Humbert win!
giantschwinn
Semi-Pro
Is this why players are slicing so much?
AceSalvo
Legend
Sunny014
Legend
Nick needs to channel his aggression in the right direction.
He can win wimbledon if he does it.
He has the serve of all the youngsters
Sunny014
Legend
Roddick poor guy modelled his whole game on Sampras.
The grass got changed, grinder's green did not benefit Roddick, he would have loved the 90s courts.
NoleIsBoat
Hall of Fame
Roddick with his mediocre slice, abysmal net/approach game and non existent FH post 04?
sredna42
Hall of Fame
They put different grass or let it grow longer or added something on it (?) to slow it down, trying to engineer a result, but didn't factor in the rain making it into an ice skating rink.
"Evil oft evil mar"
Martin J
Hall of Fame
It's the humid weather and the nature of the surface that make people fall and slip. Remember 2014? Djokovic, who is one of the greatest movers on the surface, was slipping and falling left and right that year, Federer also fell several times (something that almost never happens to him), not to mention other players.
It happened before, it will happen in the future.
It happened before, it will happen in the future.
Crazy Finn
Hall of Fame
It's important to separate the conditions from the surface.
Frankly, the AO should go back to grass, even though it won't.
Also, the grass should back to something closer to 90's composition of the grass. The tour could use an actual fast court tournament.
Frankly, the AO should go back to grass, even though it won't.
Also, the grass should back to something closer to 90's composition of the grass. The tour could use an actual fast court tournament.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
And the us open should go back to green clay
14OuncesStrung
Professional
You've clearly never watched tennis being played on grass before. Enjoy The Championships.....
If you hate the grass they're using, you can exercise your right of not watching. The rest of us can just watch and enjoy, the fabulous grass and tennis!
I mean if I hate some music, I'd never listen to it, and endlessly complain that it sucks. If I hate a movie, I'd never sit hours through it, and then complain that it sucks so much.
I mean if I hate some music, I'd never listen to it, and endlessly complain that it sucks. If I hate a movie, I'd never sit hours through it, and then complain that it sucks so much.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I agree - the surfaces are still actually different, even if the difference - in some respects (speed, bounce) - has been lessened a bit. I still think the big thing with clay and grass is the movement aspect compared to hard courts. You can see it. One example -- backcourt grinders who have no problem with the speed and bounce of grass courts, but you can just tell they don't feel secure in their footing, or changing directions quickly - which makes a massive difference in how successful a player can be.
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RelentlessAttack
Hall of Fame
HC is objectively the most boring surface and the entire tour should be replaced with 1/2 grass, 1/3 clay, and 1/6 carpet. Couple of tournaments sprinkled in on wood like the old days for novelty
Crazy Finn
Hall of Fame
I'd love to play on grass someday. I think there's a single grass court in Iowa, about 3 hours away. I think there's a few near St Louis, about 9 hours drive. Beyond that there are some on either coast.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Sharks with friggin’ lasers!
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Hmm… it is the “white sport”
FatHead250
Professional
MURICAAAA YEAAH REPLACE WITH A HARD COURT GO MURICAAAAAA YEAAAH
Cantconvert2MP
Rookie
More evidence of rampant geniuses on TTW where Roddick (#1 ranked player, won a slam) is a "mediocre" and "terrible" tennis player.
Yes, Roddick was terrible.
- Bombing serve and good forehand. That's about it.
Terrible backhand
Terrible movement
Terrible return
0 game intelligence, play like a headless chicken.
below average volleyer... for such a server
We could go on listing how bad he was..
Yes, Roddick suited very well on grass. Just like Karlovic (even him managed to get 10 titles or something like that)
Return to the traditional Wimbledon grass, stop using this new version.
FatHead250
Professional
Terrible as in what level NTRP? 4.0?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
wangs78
Legend
I kind of like slippery grass Bc it diminishes the advantage that super fast but unbalanced movers have and helps those who have great footwork even when they can’t move around the court that aggressively. Anyway, unless it keeps raining the courts usually dry out by the second week and a lot of the slippery grass will be worn away, so it will be back to being like a clay court soon.
canta_Brian
Hall of Fame
Wimbledon should mandate that shoes have no outsole pattern
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
D-Lite
Hall of Fame
I've just been flicking between the live streams on the BBC.
There's a mixed doubles match on Court 4 between Sharan/Sharan and Behar/Voskoboeva. I only clicked it as one of the Sharans is British and I've never seen her play.
A ball kid has just decked it on the grass, leg has gone right under them as they slide forward so extending the ankle right back and the match has completely stopped for paramedics to take over. Not sure if this will get any publicity but it looked super slippery at the back.
There's a mixed doubles match on Court 4 between Sharan/Sharan and Behar/Voskoboeva. I only clicked it as one of the Sharans is British and I've never seen her play.
A ball kid has just decked it on the grass, leg has gone right under them as they slide forward so extending the ankle right back and the match has completely stopped for paramedics to take over. Not sure if this will get any publicity but it looked super slippery at the back.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Interesting that the shameless malcontent Kyrgious is constantly complaining about slow grass and not about the slippery conditions.
Cupcake
Hall of Fame
Murray just fell for the second time in his current match. Early in the first set. Grass is dangerous.
As someone in another 'grass is horrible' thread suggested, today's players just need to learn to play on grass. But wait... Murray has already won this tourny twice - so he knows how to play on this surface. Yet he is still falling... So is the problem Murray's lack of skill on grass, or the surface itself that's the danger?
As someone in another 'grass is horrible' thread suggested, today's players just need to learn to play on grass. But wait... Murray has already won this tourny twice - so he knows how to play on this surface. Yet he is still falling... So is the problem Murray's lack of skill on grass, or the surface itself that's the danger?
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