NickJ
Professional
For me, I'm really liking the Tour.Sweet frame. Would you go for underspec gpro or just gtour?. Am still debating, tried the gpro with 335sw. Used to own a gtour 360+. I have to say i liked the gpro aux feeling alot.
For me, I'm really liking the Tour.Sweet frame. Would you go for underspec gpro or just gtour?. Am still debating, tried the gpro with 335sw. Used to own a gtour 360+. I have to say i liked the gpro aux feeling alot.
My tour came with a decent swingweight strung 320, but the strung balance with overgrip is almost 34cm. I think it's bad QC, I need to add a leather grip plus some weight in the handle to make it more HL, it ends up like 345g, too heavy for me.For me, I'm really liking the Tour.
16g gut mains @54 (15%)
Omg what a luck.My tour came with a decent swingweight strung 320, but the strung balance with overgrip is almost 34cm. I think it's bad QC, I need to add a leather grip plus some weight in the handle to make it more HL, it ends up like 345g, too heavy for me.
The kBlade was and still is my favorite blade to date. It is slightly stiffer than the latest versions, however, thinner beam was great on that frame.I tried a kFactor Blade years & years ago. Didn't like it. Might have been the strings in it but wasn't for me. Never touched one since!
I agree, I get that the kBlade is totally different to the Grav Tour, just that my experience all those years ago hasn't put me off the Blade, just not had the opportunity or burning desire to use one again! I don't think anyone at my club uses a Blade of any generation for me to try now. It may be that as our club is sponsored by Head we get discount on racquets, clothing, shoes etc, but I bought my Grav Tour from somewhere else as had a good deal. In our club I'd probably guess it's 50 - 60% Head users, with the balance made up of mainly Babolats and a few of those awful Ti26 things (from our elderly members), but no Blades . . . !The kBlade was and still is my favorite blade to date. It is slightly stiffer than the latest versions, however, thinner beam was great on that frame.
The Gravity Tour is a very different frame from the KB98. Plusher, more powerful, larger sweet spot, more spin…
I know this is the thread for the new version, but i recently picked up a cheap old version Gravity Tour, i am a long time weighted up Wilson Pro Staff 97 user. I was looking for something less stiff with more comfort. The Gravity had a lot more forgiveness and I can get a lot more balls back in play, my forehand feels like it is a lot more consistent and I love the flexy feeling.
What I am really struggling is with my OHBH and Slice, with the Pro Staff it was a weapon for me low nice driving slices and heavy deep OHBH. With the Gravity Tour it almost feels like the flex is killing all power, slice are poppping up and floating, i also struggle to get depth on the OHBH.
Anyone else had the issue when switching over from a stiffer racquet? I love this racquet from the get go forehand side , backhand is just not working for me.
Wilson Revolve 1.25 is quite powerful. I loved that string in my 2021 Gravity Pros.I spent some time with the pro and the tour(v1) yesterday. Here's what were readily apparent:
The power level is definitely higher on the Tour. I have both the Pro and Tour weighted nearly the same, so it's not weight alone that is in effect here.
The Tour, even though the stringbed looks the same, has more spin. Same strings, same tension. It's odd to me that this is so. Maybe it's due to the Tour being a touch more head light is all I can guess.
Usually a heavier version of the same stringbed gets me more spin. So I found this odd. So there's something else to it.
The grommets definitely are slightly different on the Pro, but there's nothing starke between the two. They both have 14 parallel ports each side, and the strings line up when placed atop one another.
The feel is very different. It's hard to describe. I would maybe say the Tour feels more 'modern' and the Pro feels more 'old school'. Both at 340g are solid. But the Pro feels more classical in how it flexes. Oddly, though the design is less Blade-like than the Tour, the Pro reminds me of my old nBlade much more so(but the nBlade has more control).
My guess is the hoop on the Tour is slightly more firm. This might also explain the spin.
The pro slices better, but only when you want to keep it low and slow. If you want to chip it hard or hit a deep, fast, penetrating slice, the Tour does it better. This could be due solely to the power or less flex, or just my technique.
Feel is close between the two for drop shots, but the Pro definitely comes out on top.
The biggest difference is on backhands. I normally use a one hander, but I grew up playing two hands before HS, where a coach switched me, so I can play both when I want to.
On the one hander, the Tour is markedly better. At 340g, it is still slightly more head light than the Pro, and has a stiffer hoop, both make spin and power easier. Still, I could hit flat when I needed to.
On the two hander, the rock solid feel of the Pro, with it's penchant for flatter hitting, seems to produce a better ball there, and a better feel too.
But this could just be me having difficulty placing spin with the Pro using my one hander. A stronger player might not feel this way.
The SW is definitely noticeably higher on the Pro even at the same weight. There is just more in the hoop.
I would imagine they would be closer if I used a thinner gauge in the pro.
Anyone suggest a powerful, thin, poly?
thanks i strung up Hyper G at 50lb. I was thinking of adding a bit of weight to the head.I used 48 lbs 17g and 50 lbs 17L gauge shaped mains and round crosses at - 330g / 6HL / 320sw
The PS97 is a stiffer more powerful open open pattern racquet. So go lower tension and/or higher swingweight or both with a thinner string
What string setup did you go with? Also pay attention to your point of contact on the racquet especially if its a low swingweight unit...
Wilson Revolve 1.25 is quite powerful. I loved that string in my 2021 Gravity Pros.
how did it feel after you made the change?I do, i have 2 grams, one at each side.
Hi thereI’ve been hitting with the Gravity Tour (Auxetic) for a week now and really like the frame. Amazing layup (plush with a great feedback), great size sweet spot.
Mine are 27.1” (though, such a soft frame that the guy in the mains “squashed” it to 27” when strung). 336g strung with overgrip, 332SW, 31.8cm strung balance, gut/Hawk rough setup.
Love the 18x20 string pattern and control and spin offering
What is the difference between the pro stock version TGT 341.1 and the commercial version?Los míos son un poco diferentes, de stock profesional, por lo que vinieron ligeramente extendidos (para que coincidan con mis otros marcos) y súper livianos: 260 g sin encordar (con sobregrip).
Agregué bastante plomo en el aro, para llegar a 295SW sin encordar (probablemente 20 g en el aro) y mucha silicona/plomo en la punta del mango (35 g) para llegar a 318 g sin encordar y 31 cm de equilibrio.
Fue una transición muy fácil desde mi marco de 95 pies cuadrados, y se siente genial. Lo seguiré usando por un tiempo y decidiré si esto es todo.
Beneficios/iguales sobre mi marco de viga de 95 pulgadas cuadradas, 18x19, 21,5 mm:
- mayor punto dulce
- La disposición del TGT341.1 es increíble, tan lujosa pero no muerta, excelentes comentarios. Mucho la misma respuesta que mi PT346.2, pero se siente más suave
- El poder es casi el mismo
- Me sorprendió que el ángulo de lanzamiento fuera prácticamente idéntico, sin ningún ajuste en absoluto yendo y viniendo
- Siento que mis servicios son un poco más rápidos, y ese fue el comentario de mi compañero de bateo (4-5 veces por semana), ex jugador D1
- mis rebanadas son mucho mejores con Gravity, apestaron totalmente con PT346.2
Es una fase de luna de miel, así que tendré paciencia antes de emocionarme demasiado.
En otros comentarios:
Este es el único PT346.2 18x19 que existe, así que... mis marcos de respaldo solían ser los PT113B2 18x19 y definitivamente no son los mismos (el 113 tiene un SW más alto (sin ningún peso en el aro), la disposición es diferente, sensación similar pero definitivamente más suave que el PT346.2.
Los dos TGT341.1 son idénticos.
Para agregar: probablemente obtenga un Gravity Tour minorista la próxima vez que visite Europa e intentaré igualar las especificaciones. Yo diría 6 g en el aro (332SW), luego unos 10 g en la culata para tratar de acercar el equilibrio lo más posible a 31 cm.
I also tried the MP, and it was just too powerful. The spin was insane, but I had to change my strokes entirely to use it. However, it's suddenly warmer this week(like mid summer temps) and I strung it for spring. So gonna put a stiffer string in it and higher tensions and see if it lets me swing out.OK, so stringing the Pro with MSV 118 focus Hex at 51X48lbs made a huge difference. Spin is about like a Tour and the weight is down a bit. Great feel, too.
I have similar struggles although in my case I switched from a Pro Staff to a Blade. I feel I have way less control over my slices and drop shots because of the greater flex absorbing power. Slices seem to need faster swing speed to generate enough spin otherwise they are liable to pop up.I know this is the thread for the new version, but i recently picked up a cheap old version Gravity Tour, i am a long time weighted up Wilson Pro Staff 97 user. I was looking for something less stiff with more comfort. The Gravity had a lot more forgiveness and I can get a lot more balls back in play, my forehand feels like it is a lot more consistent and I love the flexy feeling.
What I am really struggling is with my OHBH and Slice, with the Pro Staff it was a weapon for me low nice driving slices and heavy deep OHBH. With the Gravity Tour it almost feels like the flex is killing all power, slice are poppping up and floating, i also struggle to get depth on the OHBH.
Anyone else had the issue when switching over from a stiffer racquet? I love this racquet from the get go forehand side , backhand is just not working for me.
The pro stock came without commercial weights so, it was easier to customize and match them to my spec. They came at about 250g unstrung.What is the difference between the pro stock version TGT 341.1 and the commercial version?
The 345.2 is a thin beam (20mm), 98 sq in, but 16x19. The Gravity tour is a 100, 22mm beam, 18x20 but with generous trying spacing.Hi there
How does the gravity tour (auxetic) compare to the TGT345.2 (16x19) which I know you have?
I’m playing with the TG345.2 pro stock but curious to try the gravity tour. Thanks!
ThanksThe pro stock came without commercial weights so, it was easier to customize and match them to my spec. They came at about 250g unstrung.
The layups are the same as the retail, no difference.
Again, the TGT (Pro stock) and TGK (retail) are made at the same factories, same layup (and materials) and all the same minus the commercial weights, different labeling on the frame (mine does not say "Tour" on it and no retail specs written) and mine came slightly extended (27.1")Thanks
Aren't they made of different materials? So the only thing that varies is that the pro stock has less weight to be able to customize it?
Thanks dr325iThe 345.2 is a thin beam (20mm), 98 sq in, but 16x19. The Gravity tour is a 100, 22mm beam, 18x20 but with generous trying spacing.
The Gravity tour has more power and I’d say slightly better control vs the 345.2. The launch angle is similar. The Gravity tour has bigger and higher sweet spot.
Both are very soft layups.
It is lower power (some people prefer that) and slices through the air quicker due to thin beam.Thanks dr325i
Any advantages of the tgt345.2 compared to the gravity tour?
Again, the TGT (Pro stock) and TGK (retail) are made at the same factories, same layup (and materials) and all the same minus the commercial weights, different labeling on the frame (mine does not say "Tour" on it and no retail specs written) and mine came slightly extended (27.1")
I really like the racquet and want to make it work on the backhand side, ill try messing around with some leadI have similar struggles although in my case I switched from a Pro Staff to a Blade. I feel I have way less control over my slices and drop shots because of the greater flex absorbing power. Slices seem to need faster swing speed to generate enough spin otherwise they are liable to pop up.
I put four grams in 1g strips under the grip, give or take depending on the spec, and it helps with maneuverability at net.anyone ever added lead to the throat on the Tour?
I have Triax 17 @ 53 in the Auxetic Gravity Tour and do not like it.
Coming from a Youtek Graphene Speed Pro 18x20 (tighter pattern than the newer speeds and the gravity) with Triax 16, I expected the Tour it to be a lot more spin friendly, but just didn't happen. But because the Tour is a lot softer than the old Speed, I'm able to use Hawk Touch 18 @48 and my elbow is actually less sensitive than with the Speed + Triax.
This all feels counter-intuitive, and YMMV, but sharing my experience.
Hi @dr325i ,The pro stock came without commercial weights so, it was easier to customize and match them to my spec. They came at about 250g unstrung.
The layups are the same as the retail, no difference.
Referring back to my own question- I found the above from @dr325i in another thread on TGT344.4, and so it seems that there is a new version of both the TGT344.4 and TGT341.1 dubbed T2 which actually has Auxetic in the layup and the new paint job.Yes, some of them are the PJ of the 360+ and some are of Auxetic. T2 are Auxetic (just like my TGT341.1 T2 Gravity Tours)
Most yes but not all.Referring back to my own question- I found the above from @dr325i in another thread on TGT344.4, and so it seems that there is a new version of both the TGT344.4 and TGT341.1 dubbed T2 which actually has Auxetic in the layup and the new paint job.
Just to be sure, are all Gravity pro stock with the 2023 paintjob these T2 versions?
Thanks again!
Anyone here have a comparison between the Gravity Pro and Gravity Tour? Gravity Pro is one of the best rackets I've ever hit with, and I love the cosmetic and head shape too. BUT, it's just too heavy for me to use.
I now own both. I prefer the solid feel of the Pro, and how it moves through the air. The Tour feels more flexible in the hoop, well mine feel more flexible all around to the Pro.
The Tour has a bit more easy spin. The grommets are different from the Pro, so that's one of the things likely influencing the spin as the string pattern appears similar.
I would argue the pro has a bit better control, likely due to the stiffer hoop.
That said, I can and often swap them during practice and get similar results.
I am currently trying to train myself to use the Pro mostly because the feel is so good and it is rather accurate.
Both weighted to 340g at the time. The Pro ended up still a bit more head light than the Tour did. It is more stable mroe head light than the Tour is.
I suspect this is why my backhand is slightly better with it, too.
I have them both at 333g at the moment to try out to see if I can use them for doubles.
I also think the Extreme's are under-rated sticks. Much more control than I was expecting.