Gravity Tour Auxetic Lovers
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WYK
Legend
Mine has the non weighted trapdoor with those specs I quoted.
It is now closer to 338 with some lead at 12 o clock for the next outing.
Also, would you be willing to ship that Clash of yours intl?
I may have some extra scrilla this month.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Looks like my Tour is shipping out. I am thinking to mod it lightly - leather grip in handle for some tailweight and stability and a gram or 2 at 12 if the unstrung SW is not already at 295. I am hoping with the thicker beam it should be more stable and not need much else.
@dr325i do you know if the 2021 graphene 360+ GT grommets will fit on the new auxetic version?
@dr325i do you know if the 2021 graphene 360+ GT grommets will fit on the new auxetic version?
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Interesting, since you seemed to love the Tour at the start of this thread. I will have to see how it swings for me. I play some really good tennis with the frying pan shaped IG Extreme Pro, which is specced like the GP, but hits a bigger ball. I actually played pretty well with the prior version of the GP but I had to source a light one and I wanted a little more punch from the frame since I hit with a good amount of spin.
Yes I started with the Tour because on paper the Pro was not supposed to suit my intermediate level. I've never thought I would be for me cause everybody comments how demanding it is...
Then when I tried it I love the more stable feel and headlight balance for serve. And for some reason by weak 2HBH becomes great with this frame...
I use hyper G soft 115 or Hyper G 110 though to lower the swingweight... around 325 with is still manageable... the 315 SW of the Tour is a non sense. Especially since the 32cm balance doesn't allow for a lot of lead on the hoop....
Then when I tried it I love the more stable feel and headlight balance for serve. And for some reason by weak 2HBH becomes great with this frame...
I use hyper G soft 115 or Hyper G 110 though to lower the swingweight... around 325 with is still manageable... the 315 SW of the Tour is a non sense. Especially since the 32cm balance doesn't allow for a lot of lead on the hoop....
Power Player
Bionic Poster
You mean the listed sw on the tour is wrong? I have read it is already in the 320s which would be great for me. I use 1.25 gauge strings.
Am hoping to just need a little lead if any at 12 and then a leather grip to get mine how I want it.
WYK
Legend
I think it may also depend on the version. I have a 1st gen, and it is rather head heavy. This one is fairly stable stock.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Yes, they fit no problem
smalahove
Hall of Fame
I'm probably switching to the Tour and/or Pro, from my Yonex'es, with a possible outlier in the Pure Strike VS (can't demo that one).
I've owned the first gen Tour, and first and second gen Pro before, so I had a pretty good idea before testing them again yesterday.
First of all, the Pro has an epic feel, and I love everything about it. But with the demo setup, I have an acknowledge I lack the brute force this racket requires to constantly apply pressure. When I managed, it was glorious though. The Tour also impressed me as well. Not as sweet as the Pro, but a very nice feel, esp for a modern (Head) racket, and I got much easier depth and net clearance. Tried them alongside the Auxetic Radical MP (second outing) which felt hollow and tinny, in comparison.
I'll probably get both, with the Tour being the main squeeze for matches.
I've owned the first gen Tour, and first and second gen Pro before, so I had a pretty good idea before testing them again yesterday.
First of all, the Pro has an epic feel, and I love everything about it. But with the demo setup, I have an acknowledge I lack the brute force this racket requires to constantly apply pressure. When I managed, it was glorious though. The Tour also impressed me as well. Not as sweet as the Pro, but a very nice feel, esp for a modern (Head) racket, and I got much easier depth and net clearance. Tried them alongside the Auxetic Radical MP (second outing) which felt hollow and tinny, in comparison.
I'll probably get both, with the Tour being the main squeeze for matches.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I am right there with you in regards to the Tour. After reading how they improved this version since the last, plus the feel being top tier for a modern frame, I managed to get one shipping to me from EU. I have yet to try the Tour version, just going on the reviews from other users.
I had the prior version of the Pro and I loved the feel of it, but I found myself wanting a little more free power and spin so I think the Tour could be the solution. I think to have long term success with the Pro, you need to be a very aggressive hitter who likes to hit a little flatter than I prefer.
I also had the PSVS and personally I was not that happy with the feel of it compared to the prior aero storms. It is still a really nice frame, but the feel of the Gravity plus the gripshape is much better for me. Additionally, serving with the Gravity is awesome and tough to beat. To me, the PSVS is a bit more demanding than the Gravity due to the smaller headsize and sweetspot.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Quick question - what is the actual balance of the Gravity Tour? Is it 3 or 4 pts hl strung in stock form? TWE has a 1 pt balance listed for it, but that seems off to me.
danbrenner
Legend
So I own an underspect pro. Mine is 11.66 oz and 6 points head light with a beefier Babolat syntec pro grip and og.
So mine is a little more maneuverable than most.
I also have the Casper Ruud string, set up to really had a softer feel and maximum bite.
I think I’m just gonna buy the older MP version. I will wait for PP to give us the skinny on the tour.
I also want to get my hands on a prestige mp l.
So the irony is that I typically like to use tweener‘s in competition, but the feel of these gravity’s is so absolutely sublime that even if I have to lose a notch off of my top-tier play ability, it’s kinda worth it. Anyway, that’s where I’m at. I’m loving these frames
So mine is a little more maneuverable than most.
I also have the Casper Ruud string, set up to really had a softer feel and maximum bite.
I think I’m just gonna buy the older MP version. I will wait for PP to give us the skinny on the tour.
I also want to get my hands on a prestige mp l.
So the irony is that I typically like to use tweener‘s in competition, but the feel of these gravity’s is so absolutely sublime that even if I have to lose a notch off of my top-tier play ability, it’s kinda worth it. Anyway, that’s where I’m at. I’m loving these frames
Ryebread
Hall of Fame
danbrenner
Legend
330 grams on the nose. Just weighed it. That’s with a beefed up syntec pro og.
Ryebread
Hall of Fame
amazing
since this thread is about the tour, I'll take you to the pro thread, where I have listed the specs of my pro!
cheers Dan
Hey guys! A new Gravity Tour owner here. Due to problems with tennis elbow I ditched the Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 3rd gen + poly strings.
I use Velocity @ 55lbs multi at the moment (full bed), but I miss the power and spin, which was easily accessible on the Pure Strike.
I am thinking about trying a hybrid with Velocity mains and poly cross (at lower tension). Or try Triax.
Does anyone have similar experience and found a solution with multi or hybrid setup?
I use Velocity @ 55lbs multi at the moment (full bed), but I miss the power and spin, which was easily accessible on the Pure Strike.
I am thinking about trying a hybrid with Velocity mains and poly cross (at lower tension). Or try Triax.
Does anyone have similar experience and found a solution with multi or hybrid setup?
I just strung my Tour with Babolat Xalt 130... still have to try that setup this week end or next week.
The super low swingweight of the Tour is a weakness, especially when you want to string with a (light) multi...
I'm a big fan of Black Knight/Ghostwire or Firewire Boost...poly/poly hybrids...or you can go even softer and just do a full bed of Ghostwire...soft string.
Technifibre Multifeel Black is a multi that delivers good spin.
Volkl Cyclone Tour is among the softest poly strings you'll find.
I can't imagine any of those options with the Gravity hurting your arm.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I finally got mine from Germany and I was able to easily match it up dead on to my Gravity Pro - 310/296SW/318 balance which is a little underspec at 310 grams but plays like a dream.
Anyway I will be playing these frames at the exact same weight/SW and balance, plus same string job and tension. As close as possible. Just bouncing the ball off the Tour, I already got the impressions that this frame will be very plush. It will be fun to go back and forth between these 2 for a while and see if one sticks out to me as a favorite.
I have tried multi poly (velocity/Wilson revolve) and it played much better for me than velocity full bed.
I actually tried velocity full bed at 55lbs in the GPro and didn’t like it. Also felt weirdly stiff and boardy at the beginning as well. Multi poly with the poly a few lbs lower than the multi is what I’d recommend, maybe 53/50
I moved on to gut/poly which will give you much more spin and power. I would recommend trying NG at 56lbs and the smooth poly cross of your choice at 52-53 lbs. it will last longer as well.
danbrenner
Legend
So now that you have the pro and tour in the bag. Have you ever hit the MP?
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Probably won’t any time soon. I can say that I just hit in 40 degree weather and the Tour is indeed very plush. Not as connected to the ball as the pro but the feel is fantastic. Both the pro and tour are awesome with the tour being the softer option to go for.
danbrenner
Legend
so i own the pro. and its a really nice frame. but at the end of the day. its an 18x20. theres always that bit of pop and spin that is gonna be missing. the mp is my personal fave over the pro. the mp bridges the gap from the tweeners to the grav.
anyway. for fun. i have a demo coming in.
1. grav mp.
2. prince ats 100p
3. prince ats 100 standard.
as far as what ive been playing my best tennis with. i havent been able to put my tp 100 tour down.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
@dr325i inwas able to hit with it today and the feel is indeed soft and plush. Awesome layup. Just curious if you know the story behind the layup (is it used in other head/pro stock frames) and also what made head decide to change the Tour version up?
I hope it makes it to the U.S. I think people who want a soft, classic feel would like it a lot. No real drop off in power from the pro so far that I can tell.
I hope it makes it to the U.S. I think people who want a soft, classic feel would like it a lot. No real drop off in power from the pro so far that I can tell.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
The layup is made specifically for the Gravity tour. The MP has a similar layup but not the same.
I am using the TGT341.2, the pro stock version of the retail and living the feel and ability to customize them to my exact spec.
The only complaint I have is that the bumper is too short and one side of all of my frames, just below the bumper ending is pretty much completely scraped off…
If you end up liking them (after the honeymoon period), I suggest to stock up on them
t_pac
Professional
The layup is made specifically for the Gravity tour. The MP has a similar layup but not the same.
I am using the TGT341.2, the pro stock version of the retail and living the feel and ability to customize them to my exact spec.
The only complaint I have is that the bumper is too short and one side of all of my frames, just below the bumper ending is pretty much completely scraped off…
If you end up liking them (after the honeymoon period), I suggest to stock up on them
Are you saying the Tour might disappear at some point?
guilhermefdc
Semi-Pro
If you end up liking them (after the honeymoon period), I suggest to stock up on them
Should the Gravity MP fans stock up as well?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
All good things disappear or change at some point
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Nah, you should be good for the Aux 2.0
TNNSDR
Semi-Pro
Playing with the Gravity Tour 2023 since two weeks and I like It a lot... The verdict comes after a tournament match though. That said, mine came at 310g unstrung (yes, 310g), balance 32.3 cm and 301 SW. Perfect for me, but not everyone will be happy. The design is great, the matt paint isn't bad at all (no problems with the OHBH), but the brand labeling is not at the expected level... There are also some bubbles in one of the blue/purple stripes in the hoop. Overall, a great frame and I have already ordered a second one. Keeping fingers crossed for a better paintjob and high specs! I have also ordered the Pro.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Tour has started to grow on me with the warmer weather lately. I can feel the ball a lot better when it's not super hard and barely bouncing. The feel of the Tour is superb and it seems to pack a pretty good punch for the lower flex. Trying to think of a better feeling Head frame that has been released recently. I guess the PT 2.0, PC 2.0 and maybe the new Prestiges are there, but I have not hit with them.
But that said, those are all pretty demanding frames and the Gravity is the easier frame to use by a pretty good amount. So in terms of a 100 sqi, modern frame, I think the Gravities are the best option out there when it comes to maximum feel. The Tour really magnifies this. Feels as good as the Head Pro Stocks I have owned.
But that said, those are all pretty demanding frames and the Gravity is the easier frame to use by a pretty good amount. So in terms of a 100 sqi, modern frame, I think the Gravities are the best option out there when it comes to maximum feel. The Tour really magnifies this. Feels as good as the Head Pro Stocks I have owned.
t_pac
Professional
I have matches with my G Tours where I absolutely love them and am convinced it should be my main frame, then weird ones where I seem to shank every other ball and just don't play my best with them.
Whereas with my PK Q Tours I hardly ever mishit it and just have 100% confidence with every swing. You'd think with the generous head size and shape of the Gravities it'd be the other way round.
Whereas with my PK Q Tours I hardly ever mishit it and just have 100% confidence with every swing. You'd think with the generous head size and shape of the Gravities it'd be the other way round.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Nice you use a green Q tour? How is the feel on that frame compared to the Gravity Tour? I have the Q+5X Pro in my bag next to my gravities. Really nice, modern feel to it. Probably the best feeling tweener frame I have ever used. I think the Q Tours are more classic in feel?
Pneumated1
Hall of Fame
Where did you even locate an Auxetic GT? You may have mentioned, but I missed it. If I could find one in L4, I'd probably grab it.
I wish they offered 300 and 315 in an 18x20. I feel like 325g is too much frame for me at this point, but the 2019 q+ tour pro 325 I demoed was an amazing experience. The frame swung lighter and played bigger than its specs would indicate.
Ryebread
Hall of Fame
The Gravity Tour is 10 grams lighter than the Pro. They are both 18x20.
I was able to hit with one for a set, as I was thinking about importing a Tour (Auxetic Tour is N/A in USA) to use when I'm lagging a bit.
I previously owned a 360+ Tour for a while, but sold it about a year ago.
The Gravity Tour Auxetic lacks the plow and that controlled mass based power of the Pro.
The biggest issue for me was quite odd... it was missing the consistency of the Gravity Pro.
I was left scratching my head. And went back to my GP and 97D.
At the time I was feeling as if maybe I had been ruined by the heavier frames, and couldn't go back to 305 sticks.
300-305 sticks is all that I had played, previously.
Since discovering that these higher swing weight and 18x20 frames is what I had been looking for, for years (but just didn't know it)....
I have never looked back.
I have only played with the 315 gram Gravity Pro (which is not the most whippy frame, at around 4pt HL),
and the 320 gram Percept 97D (which is quite headlight, around 7 pt HL).
Both of these are rock solid. Both have mass based power - VERY controllable. GREAT feel. Lower launch angle with the 18x20.
The feeling when you take a ball out of the air is incredible. Point and Shoot net play.
They both feel plush, but the Head has more of a metallic feel to it.
The Percept is more whippy, even though they end up with basically the same static weight. I ended up buying a second 97D which is a curse for me.
But since late October, I haven't had anything jump in front of the Percept 97D. I play 3-4x a week.
Hope this helps someone
I was able to hit with one for a set, as I was thinking about importing a Tour (Auxetic Tour is N/A in USA) to use when I'm lagging a bit.
I previously owned a 360+ Tour for a while, but sold it about a year ago.
The Gravity Tour Auxetic lacks the plow and that controlled mass based power of the Pro.
The biggest issue for me was quite odd... it was missing the consistency of the Gravity Pro.
I was left scratching my head. And went back to my GP and 97D.
At the time I was feeling as if maybe I had been ruined by the heavier frames, and couldn't go back to 305 sticks.
300-305 sticks is all that I had played, previously.
Since discovering that these higher swing weight and 18x20 frames is what I had been looking for, for years (but just didn't know it)....
I have never looked back.
I have only played with the 315 gram Gravity Pro (which is not the most whippy frame, at around 4pt HL),
and the 320 gram Percept 97D (which is quite headlight, around 7 pt HL).
Both of these are rock solid. Both have mass based power - VERY controllable. GREAT feel. Lower launch angle with the 18x20.
The feeling when you take a ball out of the air is incredible. Point and Shoot net play.
They both feel plush, but the Head has more of a metallic feel to it.
The Percept is more whippy, even though they end up with basically the same static weight. I ended up buying a second 97D which is a curse for me.
But since late October, I haven't had anything jump in front of the Percept 97D. I play 3-4x a week.
Hope this helps someone
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t_pac
Professional
I've got 3 of the previous version (and one of the version before that) so the same frame but with the black PJ. Wasn't enough of a fan of the green to get any more but probably will if they release a new version in a cosmetic I like.
Very classic box beam feel, incredibly solid and controlled (even more so than the G Pro). I do love the feel of the gravities as well. Plays a little more forgiving than the specs would suggest. Not much free power but I'm a super aggressive player so the stability and control work for me.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I ordered one from TP in Europe and somehow they sent it to me. It was on sale too, like $200 shipped. Unreal.
I added lead to mine so it weighs 310 unstrung with a 297 SW. So I have zero issues with plow or mass.
Basically its the exact same specs as my auxetic gravity pro (I found a lighter one). I oscilliate between which one I prefer. They both are amazing, really. The tour has some punch to it. It really is the best feeling players frame that is realistic for about anyone with decent technique to use. It feels like an old school Head pretty much. Highly recommend.
TNNSDR
Semi-Pro
Alright, three weeks playing with both, the Auxetic Gravity Tour and the Auxetic Gravity Pro strung with Alu Power Rough 50/48 and I am somehow still puzzled about which one suits me "better"... As mentioned a few weeks ago, the Tour came 310g unstrung, which was excellent for me... The strung Specs (with OG and dampener) are: W: 335g, B: 32.8 cm, SW 332. The Tour was spot on: W: 340g (315g unstrung), B: 32.4 cm, SW: 332. I added a second OG on the Tour and I got the identical specs, but removed it to compare the two as they are. It took me surprisingly half an hour to find the sweet spot, which is more towards the tip in both frames. I started the hitting sessions and the match during Week 1 with the Pro and then, switched to Tour. I did it the other way around during Week 2. I probably played my best tennis with the Pro, but only the the first 30 mins having a clear strategy and my body being still at 100%. However, things got more complicated after 45 mins or so when I started not hitting the sweet spot, playing shorter balls, having issues with maneuverability etc. Switching to the Tour was super easy and started to find my ball depth again, consistency etc. When I started the session / match with the Tour during Week 2, I needed probably 10-15 mins to adjust to the lively response of the stringbed compared to the Pro. Switching to the Pro was easy and felt that I am benefitting a lot just playing flat with this frame. Then again, the troubles start after the 30-45 mins. Overall, the Pro is amazing if you have a linear flat stroke AND are in a very good shape. I think 10 years ago, I would have switched to it without even thinking; it has a nice raw feel to it and it's heaven if you play aggressively throughout the whole match. On the other hand, the Tour is more versatile, also when it comes to playing a heavy-spin ball, probably because of the lively response of the stringbed. It is the winner if you vary your shots and play in a more creative way. Both played great at the net while the Pro was "ssslightly" better with target serves. As I said, 10 years ago, when I was playing 6 times a week in Australia, I would have chosen the Pro. But the Tour is the winner for me today, as it give me more free power (not that much though), without sacrificing the precision. And it is the easier one to use while defending. I am still puzzled, since I feel that the Pro is the "better" frame in terms of response, feel, and touch... But it requires you to play very aggressively and to be in an excellent shape to win a long rally. So, the Tour it is for me, considering that I am only playing twice / three times a week nowadays and I am definitely not an offspring anymore! During week 3, I was playing with the GT and the Artengo TR960 CT 18x20 (LeMonf). I felt that the frames feel almost the same, play somewhat the same, but the GT is more forgiving, has more power, and is better on my forehand while the Tengo is marginally better for my OHBH. So, also here: advantage GT!! But for fairness, I musst have the Tengo strung with the same fresh strings (currently strung with a 6 weeks' old Hawk Touch 48/46) and adjust its specs to have these quasi identical to the GT in terms of W, SW & balance. More to come in the next weeks, but I doubt that this will dethrone the GT. We'll see...
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Pneumated1
Hall of Fame
Human nature wins this one. The GT is a forbidden gem for us in the U.S., so it's clearly the best because we can't have it. My younger son owns two GTs (one of each previous version), and anytime I hit with them I question why I don't switch. Oh yeah, I remember. They're not available in the U.S.
galapagos
Hall of Fame
i guess i can be your friend xd
Jono123
Hall of Fame
I own the GP and find Im flagging after a couple of sets. I think its more of a doubles racket as the ball comes to you. I bought a Tour version today as I was torn between the two in my initial purchase.
I'm going to string them with an identical multi at the same tension. Should be interesting to see how it plays.
I'm going to string them with an identical multi at the same tension. Should be interesting to see how it plays.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Tour has a little more punch to it. Still takes some effort to hit out but probably a little less than the gp. You can weight it a little lighter too. The stock swingweight is pretty low though, I think the target was 285 and mine is 286. So I added 3 grams of lead at 12 under the bumper and 5 grams under buttcap.
Ends up 310 and 297 sw and 318 balance unstrung. I think the extra weight really helps since these frames are pretty mass powered.
TNNSDR
Semi-Pro
My "little" issue with the GP and GT (still advantage for the GT) is the balance. I think that they start to play even better with a strung balance at 31.5 cm and not higher than 32 cm. This also means that adding 5 to 10g in the handle is inevitable. I did so three days ago by throwing a second OG on the GP and Yonex leather grip on the GT. Both play even better now with 330 SW (332 with dampener) without any manoeuvrability deficit.
Jono123
Hall of Fame
My back up racket is currently the Blade 18x20. After using the GP for a couple of sets it feels like a tweener racket.
Im hoping the Tour will be a good substitute but Im worried about the weight. If I have to lead it , then It will be similar to its big brother.
It appears the Tour is circa 10g too light and the Pro is slightly too heavy. I guess Head will nail it in the next iteration.
Im hoping the Tour will be a good substitute but Im worried about the weight. If I have to lead it , then It will be similar to its big brother.
It appears the Tour is circa 10g too light and the Pro is slightly too heavy. I guess Head will nail it in the next iteration.
TNNSDR
Semi-Pro
The GP a tweener, really!? It should definitely be tough to handle if you are not used to 340-350g strung frames IMO. If you are coming from the Blade, you may only add 3 to 5 grams to the GT to get the SW around 330. Or just go with a 1.30 gauge strings (the string pattern is more open than the Blade) to bump that SW slightly up.
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