Great article on fasting.....

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  1. Mac33

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    I'm up to my peak weight again,72kg in the morning,so I feel I need to approach the problem in a different way to achieve a 3 kg drop. I was 69kg this time last year.

    So for the next month going to try this 5 and 2 plan.

    Two days per week going to limit my calorie consumption to around 600.

    Estimate that's 4000 less calories per week,divide that by seven days and it comes out to around 550.-600 less calories per day.



    https://www.sott.net/article/348653...erfect-treatment-for-diabetes-and-weight-loss
     
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  2. Surion

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    Or you just eat 500 calories less every day.
    I'm not a friend of this type of fasting, because you'll confuse your body.

    If you only wanna lose a few pounds, please limit your deficit to 250 cals, 500 is too much in that case.
     
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    What happens when your body gets confused? Something bad I assume.
     
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    Depends, but it's certainly not helpful if you wanna consistently lose weight or get healthy, because your body is programmed to adapt and it doesn't know what to adapt to.
     
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    Today was going to try and survive on 600 calorie - I failed I think.

    Three cups of honey tea,2 small bananas,tin of butter beans with a packet of veggie curry, two bowls of homemade veggie soup,20 raw almonds. Guessing that's a bit more but not too bad. Litre of water.
     
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    I thought Intermittent Fasting was helpful for weight loss. Which is what the OP is trying to do.
    When I've lost weight, that has never worked for me. The premise seems wrong. It assumes your body is a simple and fixed in/out machine. Such that reducing "in" will necessarily result in a deficit that will require your body to burn stored fuel. In my experience your body adapts to the deficit, not by burning stored fuel, but in other ways. Actually, it's just not all that predictable from person to person just how your body will react. Some lose weight easier than others. Some put on weight easier than others.

    If dieting was easy or able to be done with some sort of mathematical certainty, I suspect most if not all people would be successful. In reality, few are even superficially (short term) successful and still fewer are long term successful.

    Best idea is to not get fat in the first place. But once the genie is out of the bottle, it's not easy to get the toothpaste back in the tube (I love to mix my metaphors).
     
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    I have tried the 5/2. It works as advertised, but over the long haul, it was not ideal for me. I lost too much concentration at work on the fast days, and ultimately stopped.

    Most high protein low carbs will get you there just the same...........................................with a bit of chocolate. smile.
     
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    There are several forms of IF and the most popular (and in my opinion best suited one to be used a lifetime) is the 16/8 split.
    That way it's consistent every single day.

    And sorry, but the rest you wrote is flat out wrong.
    Your body will adapt to the lower intake IF your deficit is too big (that's why I said only 250 if you aren't rocking like 400 pounds), because then your body will just burn more and you'll lose weight.
    If your deficit is like 1000 cals over a long period of time, then your body is confused again and thinks "****, famine, I need to lower my energy" and thus it'll burn less energy.

    The reason why so many people are fat is simple.

    They either still eat lots of garbage or don't do enough sports, simple as that.
    Or what I also witness a lot "I've ran for 30 minutes, so I earned this chocolate bar".
    That's the mistake. People just don't know that 30 minutes of running burns ~300 cals, that's not much.
    A litre of a typical soft drink has like 450.
     
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  9. r2473

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    I don't believe it is as simple as you say. "Silver bullet logic" is incomplete (or just incorrect) much of the time.
     
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    That's why EVERY study, expert, article and so on proclaims this.

    Sorry, it IS that simple.
     
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