Great hope Halep - How far now?

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How far will Simona Halep go at the 2014 USO?

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    Who's her mental coach? Is it Darren Aronofsky?
     
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    Comfortably in the 2nd R, with the most dangerous opponents in her half already out: both Pliskovas, Konta, Muguruza.

    Let's see. In the final?
     
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    I swear Halep gets so lucky when she's down big time. She also won against Stosur being down a set and 2-5 down in 2nd set, with a MP for Stosur.
     
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    Marius - I'm afraid to click on that link here at work. :cool:
     
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    Great victory in Madrid for Simona Halep. Needs variety to win easier and more, to extend career.
     
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    Lol...her disdain for Bouchard clearly shines through. Hardly surprising given Genie's rude and bizarre behaviour in refusing to shake hands with Alexandra Dulgheru ahead of the Fed Cup tie between Romania and Canada 2 years ago!
     
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    After winning Madrid, her presence in Rome will probably be very short in order to rest for RG. Too bad these big tournaments are back to back ....
     
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    Now Rome 2017.
    Let's see with Siegemund, tomorrow 5 am EST.
    Halep might say pass.
     
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    Halep to win tomorrow too. Yee.
     
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    Don't get your hopes up just yet. You never know as both potential opponents could be very dangerous if in the zone. Besides, there is always a chance for a "tactical loss" especially with RG a week away. She played quite a few matches in the past weeks so she may start to feel it.
    Otherwise she's showing a good form at the moment.
     
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    This streaming site showing Rome too is back again without that funny login:

    There's this streaming site, covers with crystal quality several channels WTA & ATP, quick switching at your fingers
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    http:slash slash tinyurl dot com slash jvbuqjt

    click ok
    select tennis in the right column, then click the match to BOLD
    click play in the video column
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    Halep to win rg

    She has a great shot
     
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    • simonahalep Arriving early in Paris for treatment. The MRI scan shows a torn ligament from the fall in Roma. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for RG and will do everything possible to be ready. Doctors say it's 50/50 at the moment but it's made good improvement since Sunday. Thank you for all of the support the last few weeks. We are remaining very positive
      Love, Simo
     
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    Man...I was really hoping Simona can go all the way in Paris!! Damn....
     
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    Halep's path:

    Cepelova, Duan, Kasatkina/Vondrousova, Navarro/Vesnina, Svitolina, Pliskova, Muguruza/Kerber

    Cepelova has beaten her before in GSs, thus tough.

    Vondrousova, at 17, is already making waves, having qualified easily. I guarantee that no one would have wanted her in their neighborhood. That 3rd R might reveal itself to be very tough.

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    Halep visibly disappointed in press, but optimistic that her ankle healing well. Was 50/50 when she arrived here if she'd play or no.
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    Here's hoping Simona's fully fit for the tournament. Given her impressive form heading into RG she'd undoubtedly be the favourite if she's anything close to 100%. I wish her all the best.
     
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    The ligament tear is presently 2-3 milimeters (1/8 inch) in size, but seems to have been considerably more.
    The final decision whether to play will be taken based on the latest medical scans.
     
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    Decided to play 2017 RG.
    Tomorrow 1st R vs Jana Cepelova, noonish EST.
    Tough match: 1-1 career.

    [EDIT] Halep was pushed back later by Zverev - Verdasco TBF. Simona might not even play tomorrow. :(
     
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    H2H doesn't mean anything. Question is, will she be fit enough to play a good match? Is she can't run or hit the ball properly, she could lose regardless who's across the net.
     
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    If Halep is playing it means she feels she is fit enough. Don't make excuses. Cepelova beat her at Wimbledon but that was on a grass surface. On clay, Halep should beat Cepelova easily.
     
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    Excellent match with Cepelova.
    Maria, next, is quite versatile
    but the first serious test for Halep might be Vondrousova.
     
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    Tomorrow about 9-10 am EST with Maria
     
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    And so she did. I think the ankle injury is still too fresh and therefore still a significant risk. Otherwise she is playing fairly well.
    Just about as good or better than any other top player. Can she lose a match? Sure. It depends when and how.

    I know you don't like her but an injury is a fact not an excuse. Players always chose to play with injuries; it depends on how severe and how it affects their game.
     
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    You just said it though, she appears to be playing better than any other top player on clay and is a favorite to win the tournament. She has a very good draw. I think if the injury was that severe she would have skipped the tournament. Most players carry some kind of injuries.

    As for me disliking her, I have in the past because of her attitude on court and her mental frailty but these days I'm liking her more than most on the WTA. She basically has this slam on a silver platter (there are only a few other players who play well enough on clay to stop her.) Let's see if she can take advantage or if she folds like a cheap suit under the pressure again.
     
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    Halep-Svitolina

    Svitolina starts as a pretty good incarnation of the power, aggressive player, in the mold of Ostapenko and Bacsinszky yesterday, and Halep better find how to counter that soon, for it's 5-0 Svitolina.

    "Massive comeback" (British commentators) by Halep for 1 - 1 in sets (after Svitolina was 5-1 in the 2nd).

    And "You wouldn't believe it": Halep bagels Svitolina in the 3rd.
     
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    I hope she wins tomorrow against Pliskova. Losing to her, at this point would be a pity. Pliskova is average at best on clay at the moment. I was afraid she would lose to Svitolina today but losing to Pliskova would be hard to swallow.
     
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    Actually Pliskova played well today as she acknowledged in her press conference and it could've gotten either way in the end.

    Luckily Halep had the edge today to win it. It was a tough one though as it should be between top, in-form, players at a GS. I could not believe how the hell Halep managed to return some of Pliskova's powerful shots.

    Anyway, congratulations to Simona for another hard fought win over another top player in what I hope will be the road to her maiden GS.

    Kudos to Pliskova for her kindness towards Halep in her presser; very classy of her... I think she'l have a good shot at Wimbledon though if she stays in good form until then.
     
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    What if she loses to Ostapenko?
     
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    What a disappointment. Its like she did not want to win, no emotion no hunger. If I was her coach I'd probably quit. Such a missed opportunity.
     
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    Hello, everyone,

    Simona Halep's push for Grand Slams and #1 - and I am convinced she has the talent and the shots for all, but she is not training the required variety, simply not preparing properly, to speak openly - has been unfortunately undermined, hamstrung, by years of less-than-optimal development and strategic perspective, and this continues to this day, for in spite of an admirable effort in today's final of Roland Garros 2017 she came again short against a power player.

    Today, and as usual, Simona fed Ostapenko a steady diet of topspin balls, exactly what Ostapenko likes. Even more, until too late, she allowed her opponent the initiative in terms of taking the ball on the rise, she staying too far back. Hello?

    Today, Simona didn't have variety: no slice. That could have been crucial in taking Ostapenko off her rhythm. Hello?

    Today Simona did not take the initiative at the net, by attempting only rarely to come there. Again, that could have been crucial in taking Ostapenko off her rhythm. Hello? Yes, I know she was (to some extent) injured, but those extended and repeated left-right baseline runs were even more taxing.

    Today, Simona did not really use effectively the dropshots. Hello?

    Today, Simona's serve was only slightly better than at the beginning of the year, but not to the extent she is capable of. Think about it: Henin at a comparable height had 117 mph, Simona 108. But Henin had a full shoulder-torso-body rotation, brought about by using Sampras's and Federer's platform stance (not the pinpoint stance, used by Halep), just like - surprise, surprise: same height! - Bethanie Mattek-Sands, the current #1 in doubles, who served 117 mph at this very Roland Garros. And be on standby on this one.

    Today, Simona's forehand could have benefitted from a full conversion to the ATP style of forehand, to which Henin switched in order to beat the big girls - and Henin managed to do so. Hello?

    Thus, when great titles, glory, and millions are lost - including for coaching - it bears repeating what I have been saying for three years now:


    Personally, if I were Halep, with all great results (including on the financial side), which I'd be blind not to see and appreciate, I'd change coaches right now, as I honestly don't see any progress on the crucial technical and strategical side this year:

    - STILL no slice

    - STILL no volley, no occasional S-V

    - not enough dropshots

    - STILL no plan B to speak of

    - STILL no better serve (just a marginal change: she could not ace Ostapenko much)

    - STILL no better conditioning (she entered injured in this tourney as a result of not protecting her ankles with ankle supports)

    These are all required to establish clear superiority and domination when one is a player of small height, as Justine Henin and her coach, Carlos Rodriguez, amply demonstrated.

    And yes, I appreciate the fact that at least the advice suggested here years ago of hiring a mental coach/psychologist for more clarity of purpose and general winning attitude has been followed (with some very good results).

    A bon entendeur, salut!

    Marius Hancu
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    P. S. Congratulations to Ostapenko. With the ratio of winners vs. Halep at 50 to 10 or thereabouts, she was clearly the better prepared player.
     
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    Well she did and it was disappointing for sure especially she was one match away from two big career milestones. I'm sure she's in a lot of pain right now - who wouldn't (?), but I hope she'll recover soon and move on. She has a lot of time left in her career and I'm sure if she stays on course, and keep working and improving her tennis and mental strength, those big moments will come.

    While Ostapenko came out of nowhere to play a very refreshing tennis and having an outstanding run (kudos to her and I hope she will back up this amazing accomplishment), I think Halep was literally one point from winning the match in straight sets - I believe a 4-0 lead in the second would've changed the faith of the match.

    This is how I pictured the match anyway: a hard fought first set won by Halep (which it happened) followed by a quick second set lost by Ostapneko 6-0/6-1 on mental grounds - down 4-0 or so and then going for too much too, soon and making a lot of UE. The second part almost happened, but not quite - unfortunately for Halep, Ostapenko held serve at 3-0 from break points down, which gave her a lot of confidence and never looked back. Remember, Halep did that as well only few days ago against Svitolina even on a bigger scale so it happens.

    On the bright side, Halep had an excellent clay season run playing 3 big finals (by far the best on the tour). Sometimes when you get so close to an almost unimaginable achievement you only see what you've lost rather than what you've gained. Winning only one of the the 3 finals almost looks like a failure rather than an achievement.

    Losing the RG final drew a lot of negative comments on the various threads, people simply ignoring that she played 3 big finals in a row, defeated hottest players of the moment in the process - Mladenovic, Svitolina, Pliskova, Kasatkina, she is #1 on the Race which means most points this season and #2 WTA, less than 200 points away from #1.

    Sure, winning her maiden GS and taking the #1 spot would've been the supreme achievement, but it simply did not happen. Life sucks sometimes. Some days things go your way, some times they don't. There is also another day and these professional athletes know that.

    Yesterday was Ostapenko's day and it was a great story. Although I badly wished Halep to win, I was not very upset in the end. I really enjoyed the fairy tale story and in the end happy for Ostapenko. Like I said, I hope she does not quickly fade away in obscurity and ridicule like other players did after one fantastic run or even season. I hope she's here to stay.

    As for Halep, I hope she remains focused and does good for the grass season - I think she only plays Birmingham before Wimbledon (I wish she would play Eastbourne too). She has QF points to defend at Wimbledon so she will be under some pressure, but we'll see.
     
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    I agree she should change coaches. Think Darrin puts a lot of pressure on her to win these big titles and she clearly isn't handling the pressure very well.

    The idea that he was going to leave her because of "her attitude," really sucks. She needs someone in her corner that she can trust has her back no matter what, win or lose.
     
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    I wonder if Halep is regressing. She hit 20 winners vs Sharapova in the 2014 final, but only 8 yesterday.
     
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    Not really, beside poor strategy like Hancu said, Ostapenko plays different than Maria. Maria still construct points giving some pace for Halep to counter the attack. Ostapenko shot was all or nothing. Plus she moved better than Maria too, giving it hard for Simona to score a winner.
     
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    Halep ain't that bad at grass too, so let see her result in Wimbledon (I believe she will not play any tournament prior to Wimbledon).
     

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