Great hope Halep - How far now?

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How far will Simona Halep go at the 2014 USO?

  1. W/Os before R1

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  2. R1

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  3. R2

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  4. R3

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    It's great that you updated the name of the Simona thread)
     
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    Considering her play so far, what do you think of her chances to win it all?
     
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    30%, based mainly on yesterday's match, in which she considerably raised her level, esp on FH and serve. She must go higher, get more dropshots, come several times more to the net.
     
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    I've added to the links to the match in the above a link to the presser.
     
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    Congratulations Simona!!! She's funny about (not) lifting the trophy :)
    Good luck in Miami!

    @Marius - you are doing a great job supporting Simona. Keep up the good work :)
     
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    Bouchard will not get that far unless she improves her game with Bencic, Stephens (playing better), Keys in her way.
     
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    Confirmed: Halep to play Stephens in the 2015 Miami QF
     
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    That could be a great match. Halep is the future. Halep is now
     
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    Halep On Serena & World No.1

    Simona Halep was asked at the Miami Open whether she has her eye on becoming World No.1, and her answer is so classy it might surprise you. Read what she said here.

    MIAMI, FL, USA - She's got a lot going for her on the court - an incredible array of weapons, steely determination that can turn matches around on a dime, movement that transcends court surface. But while all of that has helped Simona Halep become one of the best tennis players in the world, it's her humble personality that has brought her one of the biggest and most loyal fan followings in the world.

    That personality - and the willingness to give props to the few ahead of her - was never more evident than this fortnight in Miami, when she was asked how proud she is of being ranked No.3 in the world.

    "It's very important. It means I'm the third one," Halep commented. "But when Serena is No.1, you don't really want to think you can be No.1. It's tough to think about that when she's still playing."

    But Williams being untouchable is a different story, according to Halep, who did beat her at the BNP Paribas WTA Finals Singapore presented by SC Global last year (highlights from that one above).

    "Not really. Not really," Halep said. "But she's very strong. She's a great champion. I admire her a lot and I've learned many things from her. I always become stronger after I play her.

    "She's been there many years and knows how to manage every situation."

    And what about that longevity?

    "It's not easy to stay at the top for so many years," Halep said. "I've already been there one year and it's not easy to manage the pressure. But she's a great champion and she knows how to."

    So if reaching No.1 isn't among the Romanian trailblazer's immediate goals, what is?

    "I do have confidence that I can win more titles and reach a higher ranking, of course, but still, I'm happy with my ranking, my game and where I am right now. My dream is to win a Grand Slam - I don't know if it's going to happen in this life, but I'll just work hard every day to reach that goal."

    One of her big supporters - fellow Romanian tennis legend Ion Tiriac - says she'll reach her goal.

    "He says I have everything you need to win a Grand Slam, but I have to work a lot and be patient."

    The World No.3 could get back to her career-high World No.2 by winning the Miami Open this week. If she wins it would be the equal-biggest title of her career, tied with the Premier Mandatory-level title she just won at Indian Wells, and it would also be her 12th career WTA title, which would tie her with WTA legend - and her manager - Virginia Ruzici, for most WTA titles ever won by a Romanian.

    http://www.wtatennis.com/news/article/4605379/title/halep-on-serena-world-no1
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    Before the Storm​
     
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    So, after last night's events, what do you think Halep needs to add or subtract from her game?
     
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    What last night showed was that peak Serena is untouchable. Set 1 was a lesson in controlled aggressive tennis. It highlighted both Serena's offensive and defensive skills and was awesome to watch. What it also showed was that Serena couldn't sustain that level. I don't know if that was an aberration or something that will happen with more frequently as Serena gets older but all credit to Simona for hanging in there waiting to capitalize on Serena's drop in level.

    In my opinion what Simona needs to add to her game is an improved serve. The serve she has now will work against 99% of the WTA but not against great returners like Serena, Maria and Vika. She also needs the mentality to pull the trigger and go for her shots, namely the forehand and backhand down the line. Against Serena she was content to just play crosscourt and wait for mistakes rather than create opportunities for herself. She relied on her great movement to stay in the point. Again, that will work against 99% but not against the top players.
     
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    The Path for Simona Halep — My Take

    Congratulations to Serena Williams for a great match.

    Simona Halep has to be congratulated for the great sequence of matches and for the amazing fighting spirit.

    However, she needs to go back to the drawing board, as she was beaten fair and square by Serena not only by and in terms of power, which is of course excusable, but also by having a much better and varied strategy and variety of shots, which is not.

    I don't remember seeing from Simona Halep tonight:

    - any lobs (Serena had several)

    - any dropshots (except a masterly short crosscourt; Serena had several more)

    - no trips to the net on her own initiative (Serena was very present there, breaking the rhythm and taking the initiative)

    - variety in the passing shots: they went all crosscourt, where Serena was waiting for them, and volleying them very well

    - no DTL approaches: all were cross-court,, where Serena was waiting for them (and only topspin, high jumping)

    - no plays behind the opponent (Serena had several)

    - no slices (Serena didn't have any, but she is the power player, she doesn't need to use them - even though she has an excellent slice)

    - generally, no plan B (one can say that Serena executed several times such a plan, via her trips to the net, that were in high majority victorious)

    Well, when you expect to beat Serena with a limited repertory of shots, you can say good bye to the task. Does anyone remember Justine Henin?

    I hope Simona Halep and her team will take this match as a clear indicator of the tools she really needs to consistently add to her game and especially deploy if she wants to get to #1 and for a longer career.

    Again, IMO, the path to beat Serena (or Sharapova) for Halep will have to pass by necessity by the Justine Henin path - variety - and not by the Kim Clijsters one - power.

    Finally, congratulations to both players for a great effort and a quite captivating match.

    Au bon entendeur, salut!

    Marius Hancu
     
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    Everyone except Serena in top 10, thus including Halep, Bouchard, Sharapova, will be in Stuttgart. Indoor clay. I predict Halep and Bouchard will not play Fedcup the previous weekend.
     
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    Excellent, objective post. Thanks.
     
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    Great match last night Marius. Haley is a gem. If she just had a couple more inches on height and length she might have won that last night.
     
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    Strong, accurate assessment. Thank you.
     
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    From that interview:

    Level-headed, honest comments from Halep.

    I do think she needs to take two pages from Serena's game--the serve (obviously), but excel in doubles as a way of sharpening her understanding of the net. With her existing skills, adding that would be a nightmare for the legion of baseliners thinking they can dictate from the back.
     
  33. I agree. Halep must be proactive and preemptive in how she continues to develop her game. No excuses. However, I'm unsure as to how much she can improve that serve—it's truly mediocre, so hopefully quite a lot.

    There's an awful lot to like already. Did you not get the sense that Serena enjoyed that match? Sometimes her reactions to what she had to do to win some points against Halep were ones of surprise and being impressed and even satisfied. Serena is the master of the WTA tour, and she may have a very serious challenger coming her way shortly.

    You know a lot more about tennis history and especially the WTA than I do. Thoughts?
     
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    Halep has pushed both Sharapova and Serena into very tight matches, but didn't quite have what it took to beat them in those tight matches.

    She's come very close - three times - against Sharapova. But then Sharapova showed another level at the end of those matches that left Halep on the losing end. She's beaten Serena once while Serena was playing horrendous, in the RR of the WTA finals. Then she was beaten with almost as much authority by Serena later in the same tournament.

    Then here in Miami, she really challenged Serena just like she challenged Sharapova. And just like Sharapova, Serena had more to offer in the final games of the third set.

    So in cases like this, there's two ways of looking at it, one hopeful and one a bit troubling. She's falling a little bit short...is it just that she has to grow as a player more, and that the best things are still to come on that front? Or is it that there's some mental or playing style limitation that will always leave her at the mercy of someone capable of upping their game in crunch time?

    It's definitely something she should figure out. Players who play her sort of energetic, often defensive game can enjoy some years at the top, but they rarely are able to live at the very top for a long time. (see Jankovic, Wozniacki, etc.) Henin was far and away the most successful of the smaller-sized players with footspeed, but Henin could take the offensive on the court much more frequently than Halep. Henins don't come along every day.
     
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    Simona Halep, barely arrived in Bucharest, has announced she will not play in Fedcup against Canada in Montreal, as she has committed to Stuttgart for the following week.

    Another chance of seeing Halep in Montreal gone :-[

    BTW, I expect the same from Bouchard on the Canadian side.
     
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    That is the bottom line. Halep gets very close to beating Sharapova and Serena but then falls short. There is no such thing as close in a tennis match. You either win or you lose.

    As for Henin vs Halep, there is no comparison. Henin was far superior and I wasn't even much of a Henin fan. Night and day.
     
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    If you combine Halep's current high ranking with her previous physical build, maybe she would have become the most googled female tennis player of all-time (or on par with Hingis/Kournikova).
    She already is extremely popular, but that is within the tennis community, whereas if she kept her previous physical build she would have accessed the general (non-tennis) male population the way Hingis/Kournikova did.
     
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    If she gets a lucky draw, she'll win a major.
     
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    The more I see of her game, the more I like her. I think she will adapt, and Marius' assessment of Plan B is a brilliant one.

    I'm hoping to see Halep win a Major this year. What she has done with her physical stature is pretty amazing. If somehow she could beef up her serve a la Aleksandra Krunic, (5-foot-4, 117-pound physique, serves up to 117 miles per hour) she would really pose more of a threat.
     
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    I think her decision to skip the Fed Cup was easy to anticipate and it was the right one. She needs to prepare for the clay season. Travelling back and forth to Canada within few days, plus changing the surface would've been a very risky endeavour for her.

    Glad she made the right decision despite the outcry she started in Romanian media. I hope she will have the power to ignore it and go about her business.

    She has 3-4 major clay tournaments (Stuttgart, Madrid, Rome, Paris) coming up and she must play her chance to do well in those tournaments to stay on top as she has a significant number of points to defend from last year's Madrid (F) and RG (F).

    I hope she comes to Toronto this year :). Time for a road trip?
     
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    Or she could just play Sharapova again in the final, and play a tiny bit better than last year.
    Last year at Roland Garros, Sharapova won 6-4, 6-7, 6-4, so there is nothing in it.
     
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    And she had a bit of an injury, too. Would be interesting to see them match up again with both at 100%. In the semi :)
     
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    In Stuttgart Halep can meet Sharapova in the final, which is a good thing I think, provided both make it to that point. It should be a good checkpoint to see where they stand against each other before the bigger clay tournaments.
     
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    It is quite likely that Simona with her "previous physical build" would not be able to reach the high ranking she currently enjoys. Which is the main reason why she had the surgery in the first place. That's another reason that I really like her. She's all about the tennis. She doesn't care that pimply teenage boys or sexually frustrated men could be ogling her while she's running up and down a tennis court. She wants to win. At the end of year championship she was put down by a segment of fans who wanted her to tank her match against Ivanovic to ensure that she would not have to play Serena for the second time. But no, Simona is all about the tennis and wants to play against the best in order to one day be the best.
     
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    Yes big time respect for her. She became more agressive and won a handful of tournaments in 2013, then changed coaches. Everyone was asking her how she could do that after having her best year ever and she basically said she didn't want to settle for being pretty good. Next year she made a slam final and took a win off Serena at YEC. She ditched the coach that wanted her to tank and is now looking to go further. She really gives a **** about her tennis and wants to be as great as she can, and is willing to put in the effort to make it happen. You can't really ask for anything more.
     
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    Ion Tiriac, now in Bucharest, supervises some of Simona Halep's training sessions and gives advice to Victor Ionita, her coach.
     
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    This could be good as long as he keeps it honest and doesn't turn it into a business opportunity for himself.
     
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    No. He will never do that for himself. He's just a good guy and wants to help, that's all :?
     
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    You are being very generous with him
     

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