Greater chance: Nadal or Federer to win another major?

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Okay, Nadal and Federer fans...without bite, without flaming, without the venom, let's all be honest.

The men's AO final was a surprise--no doubt about that--as the year's majors fired off with the unexpected.

So, for all of the TW talk of aging players, history, etc.--particularly between Federer and Nadal, be honest, be clear: between the two, who has the greater chance of winning another major?

Personally, I know Nadal will win more, and for well over a year, I've said Federer's best chance is to take time off to prepare for Wimbledon (2014), but to the rest of you...well?
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Clearly the answer is Nadal. He's still a heavy favourite at the FO.

However, the more important question is, who will finish with the greater career of the two. Today's match was a setback for Nadal in that debate.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Why is this even a question ?

Nadal will win more majors, while chances for Fed is close to Zilch outside of Wimbledon.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Clearly the answer is Nadal. He's still a heavy favourite at the FO.
Granted, he would seem to be the FO favorite, but if--in your words--the AO result is a setback in the bigger judgement of career comparisons, would it not call his FO chances into question?

Nadal is not Federer's age, but I wonder if he had skipped this AO, he would increase his chances at the FO, in the way I firmly believe a clay break will give Federer the same at Wimbledon?

However, the more important question is, who will finish with the greater career of the two. Today's match was a setback for Nadal in that debate.
I feel the only way it will be a setback is in the event Nadal does not win a major for the rest of 2014. That, plus more physical wear could make his 2015 difficult.

However, if he has a repeat performance of 2013 (two majors), then you must know the "Nadal is the GOAT" crowd in sports media will grow like never before.
 

Kalin

Legend
To answer the question: Nadal

But yes, today's result does throw some however small doubt over the inevitability of Rafa winning another FO.
 

90's Clay

Banned
Maybe neither win another slam?

Nadal is getting up there in mileage to continue returning back from the injuries and get back to a high level.

And I noticed, Nadal can only sustain a high level for a few months now (instead of a few years ago when he kept a high level for much longer) before he gets some injury that throws him 10 steps back

With Nadal out though, Fed may win another slam. Nadal may never win another one. I don't know how he can keep coming back from these injuries.
 
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Neither will win a slam in 2014.

Djokovic wins RG and USO.
Wow. That is a big prediction.

Murray wins Wimbledon.
I do disagree with your idea about Murray, as the pressure will be too much to bear, and if that makes a nervous Murray, that opens the door for Federer---if he is prepared (in consideration of his age).
 

poofytail

Banned
Neither will win a slam in 2014.

Djokovic wins RG and USO.

Murray wins Wimbledon.
I think Nadal will repeat his 2013 of winning both RG and USO.

I had thought Murray would win Wimbledon but not wouldnt be surprised if Wawrinka or Dmitrov pulled an upset and won it.

Pretty sure Djokovic will win 1 slam max now that his pet slam is gone and didnt win, and wouldnt be the least bit surprised if it is 0.
 

Fiji

Legend
Wow. That is a big prediction.



I do disagree with your idea about Murray, as the pressure will be too much to bear, and if that makes a nervous Murray, that opens the door for Federer---if he is prepared (in consideration of his age).
When was the last time an almost 33 year old won wimbledon?
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
When was the last time an almost 33 year old won wimbledon?
Ahh, but in recent years, we have witnessed 30 and 31-year olds winning. Yes, a new year can add on much physical damage (which can hurt motivation), but in the case of Federer, don't you think taking the entire clay season off would make him a serious threat on his best surface, when he managed to get to this AO semi?
 

Speranza

Hall of Fame
Rafa, but I hope Stan isn't a one slam wonder and if the situation arises in another final with either, that he wins.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Rafa doesn't have a chronic back injury.

This could heal in a matter of days or weeks. He will be back to defend RG, and successfully in all likelihood.

But boy, was Stan on! He was giving Rafa no rally balls, just going for winners, especially in the first set.
 

Enigma

Semi-Pro
Fed will win the next 10 majors and cap off his illustrious career with a gold at the Rio Olympics.
Obviously.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
He didn't fake injury. Why would he fake injury to the point of actually playing and serving like he is injured?

Use your head.
Because he knew with the way Wawrinka was playing, he was going to lose the match anyway. So why not have a ready excuse that everyone could clearly see?
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Of course Nadal. That goes without saying he has the much better chance. But for all the naysayers, if you watch any sport, you must understand that Fed is not out of GS accumulation. I say he still has a very legit shot at wimbledons. If he gets an easy draw and he's serving well, he can play lights out there. That environment suites his game very well. Don't ever count fed out for wimbledon, despite his past attempts. Like in sports and like we witnessed with Wawrinka (perfect example) *Murphy's Law* Anything that can happen, will happen.
 

JustBob

Hall of Fame
Obviously, if Rafa stays healthy, he has a much better shot at winning more slams than Fed. The later has a decent shot at Wimbledon this year, but after that... he's not going to get any younger.
 

NEW_BORN

Hall of Fame
Definitely Nadal, unless his back deteriorates.

Federer needs a kind draw in the 1st wk and no nadal in the 2nd wk.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
But for all the naysayers, if you watch any sport, you must understand that Fed is not out of GS accumulation. I say he still has a very legit shot at wimbledons.
That's what i mean: that is his best surface, and yes, running into Nadal could be an issue, but the odds lean in his favor on grass than what we witnessed at the AO a few days ago...yet he still made the semis.

Anything that can happen, will happen.
Agreed.
 

Silent

Professional
Can't pick anybody else but Nadal if this is going to be a one-or-the-other type of question.

But I still believe Federer can, and I have to believe that as good as he's played with the new racquet, his game will continue to improve with it.

But, as I said: one or the other ? Has to be Nadal, in my mind.
 

Nickzor

Semi-Pro
I'm a big time Fed fan boy, but its a little ridiculous to count Nadal out of slams just because of his loss to Wawrinka last night, I'm sure Nadal will go on to win more Slams for suree, this one loss may have hurt him, but he'll be back at his best throughout the year for sure,
Fed's best chance for another slam is Wimbledon this year, its possible, if he plays the way he did at this years Aus Open, and doesn't run into Nadal before the final then i reckon his got a decent-ish chance?
 

spinovic

Hall of Fame
Maybe neither win another slam?

Nadal is getting up there in mileage to continue returning back from the injuries and get back to a high level.

And I noticed, Nadal can only sustain a high level for a few months now (instead of a few years ago when he kept a high level for much longer) before he gets some injury that throws him 10 steps back

With Nadal out though, Fed may win another slam. Nadal may never win another one. I don't know how he can keep coming back from these injuries.
Possible. That's why I never understood these sentiments that it was inevitable for Nadal to win X amount of majors more. As you note, we never know how long his body is going to hold up.

If healthy, he's certainly the favorite at RG, but not a lock as long as Djokovic is around. Djokovic, IMO, has matched Rafa's level on clay but just hasn't been able to crack him at the big one. For that reason, Rafa is still the favorite there, but anyone who has watched tennis the last 3 years should be able to see that Djokovic has all the tools to beat Nadal on the clay.

As for the thread question, the answer is most certainly Nadal. Wimbledon is Fed's best chance, but he's not going to be favored there. Nadal, if healthy, is a favorite or co-favorite on everything but grass. Wimbledon is a big question mark for him now - he seems more vulnerable there, but who's to say he couldn't play his way into form like he used to if he could avoid the upset and find a way through the first 2-3 matches. I haven't written him off on the grass just yet.
 
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Nadal was seriously injured against Wawrinka. Otherwise, it would have been straight sets win for Nadal.
but lets not forget how the first set turned out, and wawa was up a break in the second. this is the type of reasoning i dont like, he was injured he would have come back and won, well not necessarily stan was playing an exceptional game minus his first serve %. personally i think stan would have won and i hate the fact that this injury is questioning stans win.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
I'll stick with my begiinning of the year predictions.
1 GS for Nadal, Djokovic and Federer.
1 GS for either Del Potro or Wawrinka.

AO - Wawrinka.
FO - Djokovic.
Wim - Federer.
USO - Nadal.

I think Djokovic wants the FO more than anything.
Federer is really only playing for Wim glory, and already preparing S&V
Nadal will make 3 finals but win only 1.

Del Potro might learn from Wawrinka and go back to hitting out like 2009.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
I'll stick with my begiinning of the year predictions.
1 GS for Nadal, Djokovic and Federer.
1 GS for either Del Potro or Wawrinka.

AO - Wawrinka.
FO - Djokovic.
Wim - Federer.
USO - Nadal.

I think Djokovic wants the FO more than anything.
Federer is really only playing for Wim glory, and already preparing S&V
Nadal will make 3 finals but win only 1.

Del Potro might learn from Wawrinka and go back to hitting out like 2009.
You might consider switching the projected winners of the FO & USO. If Nadal fully recovers (and does not beat himself up leading up to the FO), then he would have the edge....but I feel it could be his last FO title....
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
You might consider switching the projected winners of the FO & USO.
That would be logical, but I don't want logical, Nadal is definitely the man at FO, but Djokovic is so close too often for it to happen all the time.

Nadal needs some time to rest, he pushes very hard and needs to be peak form to beat Noal. Last time he took time off all the other niggling injuries also got better, hence the hard court season. I think if by the end of Wim he does not have a GS he needs to recoup for 6 weeks and go strong for the USO. The reality is no one really cares about being No.1 as much as winning GS, history is based on GS.

Thought people would scoff at my Federer prediction, I think Fed will put and is putting all his efforts into Wim. He's hitting bigger and volleying more this year alone. He's training with Wim stars. It makes sense, the AO or USO would just be cream on the top. I can't see him going to 2016 either, next year will be his last.

By the way when Nadal was 22-23 I thought he would break at 25-26, the way he abuses his body it astonishing, so to make 28 with only a few injuries is awesome, history is littered with super physical players broken in their prime.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Thought people would scoff at my Federer prediction, I think Fed will put and is putting all his efforts into Wim.
One would hope he is thinking along that line, as he has no chance at the FO, so why beat himself up? Spare the body, focus on grass, and when the rest of the field arrives at Wimbledon, he will be fresh, and can use his experience to do some damage--as in win the title.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
I think he, Federer, needs to realistic priorities he's remaining years like Lendl did and put a big effort on the GS he has a greater chance to win. The AO is not his surface nor FO, it's a bit too slow and allows defensive and consistent pressure priority, Djokovic & Nadal.
 

merlinpinpin

Hall of Fame
How is that possible when Nadal was already down a set and a break BEFORE he even got "injured"? :confused:
Probably because he would have played so well that the umpire would have had to deduce points (then games and sets) from Wawrinka's scoreboard, no?

Vamos!
 
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DRII

G.O.A.T.
I think Nadal will repeat his 2013 of winning both RG and USO.

I had thought Murray would win Wimbledon but not wouldnt be surprised if Wawrinka or Dmitrov pulled an upset and won it.

Pretty sure Djokovic will win 1 slam max now that his pet slam is gone and didnt win, and wouldnt be the least bit surprised if it is 0.
interesting veiw point, and i think i agree; although we never know what will happen...
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Rafa doesn't have a chronic back injury.

This could heal in a matter of days or weeks. He will be back to defend RG, and successfully in all likelihood.

But boy, was Stan on! He was giving Rafa no rally balls, just going for winners, especially in the first set.
but when does a 'chronic' back injury start?

it seems that Serena is starting to have more and more back problems, particularly at the begginning of the year. might this start to happen to Nadal? i sincerely hope not, but he has so many other physical ailments to worry about, to add the back is just too mcuh!
 
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