Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by WARPWOODIE, May 12, 2009.
Anyone know who, where and when?
I think, Barry Macky lost two (third and fourth) sets 0-6,0-6 to Ayala in the 1960 Rome final, and still won the match in five. Laver once beat Rosewall 4-6,6-0,6-0 at the SWP LosAngeles in 1968. Lendl beat Connors Love and Love in New Jersey in the 80s, but still lost the two most important finals at USO to him, one on 1983 with 0-6 in the fourth. Vilas beat Gottfried Love, 3 and Love at RG in 1977.
I think this one was at Forest Hills.
Federer beat Hewitt love, 6, and love in their USO final.
Didn't Federer give Del Potro 2 bagels this past Australian Open?
If we include women, then definitely Graf over Zvereva in the 1988 French Open final. Anyone who makes a Slam final should be playing well enough to get a game. And, Zvereva was no slouch, very talented player.
yep. That was a disgusting match 6-3, 6-0, 6-0 worst QF in a while. The Barry Macky stat is interesting.
I was at the Connors match against Lendl. It wasn't in New Jersey but at Forest Hills, New York at the old West Side Tennis club. It was the 1984 Tournament of Champions semifinal. It was impressive but not awesome because Lendl junk balled Connors to death on Har Tru. Connors had problems winning points, much less games. I think he may have only had one game point. I have to check it one of these days. I still have the tape of the match somewhere.
I understand Laver was incredible when he double bageled Rosewall
Strange one this:
Evert def Navratilova 6-0, 6-0 (Amelia Island, 1981)
I found three triple bagels among the men, but there must certainly be more especially in DC
Edberg def Eriksson (Stefan) 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 (Wimbledon 1987)
Lendl def Moir 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 (US Open 1987)
Bruguera def Champion 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 (Roland Garros 1993)
More recently, Ferrer delivered a 6-0, 6-0 to Goldstein two years ago in Barcelona
Didn't Federer double bagel Gaudio at the TMC a few years ago?
Borg over Nastase 1979 Davis Cup 6-3 6-0 6-0. Not really impressive since Nastase was over the hill but I figured I'd throw that in.
Agassi beat Hyung Taik Lee 6-1, 6-0, 6-0 at the Aus Open. I think it was 2003 or 2004..
Ivanovic won 6-0 6-0 at the french last year, 4th round i think.
Nieminen beat Korolev 60, 60 in Miami in 2007.
I wish I could watch the Bruguera-Champion match from the 93 French. Bruguera felt so bad for the Frenchman by the end that he looked like was all but TRYING to give Champion a game, but Champion was so demoralized by that point that he couldn't even take it.
Bruguera almost double bageled Leconte in the first or second round that tournament too. 7-6, 6-1, 6-0. This one I do have on tape. Leconte played well the first set, was very competitive, then Bruguera took it to another level and was passing him at will. Again, at the end, Bruguera looked sorry for Leconte who clearly looked embarrassed at that point, on the verge of losing the third at love.
Bruguera's 93 run at the French is one of the most underrated runs of all time. Courier was the favorite based on past results and reputation, but the reality is that if you looked deeper he really was THE in-form man that tournament and him winning it shouldn't have been any surprise or upset imo.
He took out Larrsn 6-1, 3, and 1. Medvedev 0, 4, and 2. Took a 6-1 set from Sampras (which with his serve is always impressive regardless of the surface). He played a huge amount of virtual shut out sets that tournament.
He could have double bagled Medvedev at the 97 Lipton as well. He was said to have played UNBELIEVABLY well that match. Medvedev won but a handful of points the entire first set, and in the second, Bruguera inimated that he let Medvedev win a few games because he felt bad for his best friend. When Bruguera got hot, he was a 1 and love machine, because unlike someone like Chang he had offensive weapons off the ground to go with the impenetrable defense. Chang however played impenetrable defense on a much more consistent defense because mentally he was always there.
Cañas give Juan Monaco three consecutive bagels in two different matches
MS Rome 2005: 6-0, 6-0
Roland Garros 2007: 6-0, 6-4, 6-2
That is pretty good. Monaco is a darn good clay courter.
How the hell I forgot that one I'll never know. What was the time of that match?? 32 minutes or something??
I rememer at trophy presentation Graf apologizing to the French cOpen crowd, for making the final such a short one. People were joking that Steffi was played the match as if she in a rush cuz she was double parked.
The Lendl-Connors double bagel certainly stands out for the men.
The women have had numerous double bagels. A startling number of top players have been on the losing end, including:
Chris Evert d. Martina Navratilova 6-0,6-0 in Amelia Island, 1981. This really wasn't that surprising; Chris was the queen of clay, at the height of her dominance, and Martina was a bit out to sea at the time.
Chris Evert d. Tracy Austin 6-0,6-0 in Toyota Championships, 1982. Sweet revenge for Chris after a number of lopsided losses to Austin. Tracy won 1 point on her serve in the 1st set.
Steffi Graf d. Natalia Zvereva 6-0,6-0 in the 1988 French finals. I think it lasted 32 minutes. Zvereva was awful as Steffi was brilliant that day.
A few other interesting matches:
Martina Navratilova d. Manuela Maleeva 6-0,6-0 in the 1989 US Open QF. The following year Maleeva beat Martina in the 4R.
Martina Hingis d. Monica Seles 6-0,6-0, Indian Wells 2000.
Lindsay Davenport d. Maria Sharapova 6-0,6-0, Indian Wells 2006.
Most ironic is that is Lindsay's only win in 6 career meetings with Sharapova, yet it comes in the form of a double bagel. Truly unique.
I was also gonna mention this one, I believe it was 2005 though. Quite a surprising result seeing as Sharapova had never lost to Davenport, and it was also her first ever 0-6 0-6 loss.
I umpired a match at a women's challenger a few years ago, I think it was Nana Miyagi vs. Kristina Brandi and it was 6-0, 0-6, 6-1. Double bagel first 2 sets, just one set each..
I wasn't a double bagel, but Bill Scanlon beat Marcos Hocevar 6-2, 6-0 in a WCT tournament in 1983. The 6-0 set was a GOLDEN SET!
Two more interesting results: At the 1960 Wembley tournament Rosewall beat the 1959 Wim champ Alex Olmedo Love, Love and Three. Macauley, Maskell and Barrett called it a flawless performance, maybe Rosewalls best. At the 1969 Wimbledon second round on an outside court, Laver lost the first to sets and was 3-3 in the third, to Indian Premjit Lall, a cement worker in his youth. That was the nearest, Laver came to defeat on his way to the Grand Slam. But then he accelerated and never lost another game - 6-3, 6-0, 6-0. Later he said, that Lall got some cement in his elbow.
Laver seemed to have that almost unique ability to "turn it up a notch" when necessary.
Well.. if you can get one why not win big?
Not so strange really. First of all it was on clay, Evert=Queen of Clay, second Martina was out of shape and not playing well and third Evert was still in her prime and playing very well. It's the only match out of their 80 matches where that happened.
When Davenport's game was really clicking she was very formidable. Also Sharapova had an off day and Davenport took full advantage of it by playing superb tennis.
Davenport really should have beaten Maria more often than she did. I can see an on fire unstoppable Maria easily beating an old Lindsay in their last meeting of course. However Maria's game is in no way so superior that she should have gone a dominant 4-1 vs Lindsay before that.
It was probably one of those fluky things. It's a small sample. There's no way Maria should beat Lindsay 80% of the time, assuming both are in good health and tournament shape.
I was going to mention this one also, Davenport I am pretty sure is the only player to have double bageled Sharapova so far. Its kinda ironic that its her only win over Sharapova, although many of their matches did go to 3 sets. Although Sharapova always did remind me of a young Davenport, albeit a fitter version. Fitting, they each have win the same 3 majors to. I think Davenport was riled to beat her, in their previous 2 matches Davenport had been so close to winning, especially at Wimbledon in 2004, and had it slip so she came in and spanked Sharapova.
Greatest bagel-producing male player in the Open era?
Well, Federer's reign as No. 1 was one of the most dominating virtually resembling a entire bakery of bagels as well. Well, Mr. Fortress may have been even more dominating -- toying with his opponents to an even greater degree. It was definitely a hot topic to discuss during Bear's reign...
According to the match scores listed on the ATP website, Borg bageled his opponents (sets won 6–0) 116 times from 1973 through 1981, compared to Federer's 55 bagels from 1999 through the 2007 French Open...
Stumbled across this today: Ken Rosewall def. Sven Davidson at the 1953 U.S. Championships 6-0 8-10 2-6 6-0 11-9. A double bagel and 11-9 in the fifth? That's quite strange.
Players used to throw away sets all the time in the 70s/80s(& I assume well before that) when they got behind. And many used to play out matches even when injured. I find it rather odd that people care about this stat, it means nothing.
Going by NTRP guidelines.. If evert was 7.0, Navratilova played like a 6.0
Apparently, Bill Tilden at one point won 57 consecutive games. It started with the finals at Nassau, Long Island. He won 6-4 6-0 6-0. Then at his next event, Newport, he won three consecutive matches with the score of 6-0 6-0. His streak was broken when he lost the first game of the second set of his next match (which he went on to win 6-0 6-1). Absolutely ridiculous. He was in a class of his own...
Soderling just beat Schuettler 60, 60 today
Fernando Gonzalez once won against a Pakistani player in the DC world group play off 6-0, 6-0, 6-1. It was on 2005
Lendl d. Gomez 6-7, 7-6, 6-0, 6-0
1986 French Open qf
Lendl never lost serve.
I have this memory of champion lossing something 0,0 and 0 at wimbledon or was is 1,1, and 1.
Lendl too served three consecutive bagels to Connors in two matches.
In 1984 Rotterdam, he was up 6-0 1-0 (up a break) when someone phoned in with a bomb threat. Lendl refused to complete the match after the stadium was deemed safe. The next time they met a couple of months later in Forest Hills, he won 6-0 6-0.
Their head to head (22-13 in favour of Lendl) needs more than a casual glance. Connors won the first 8, Lendl the last 17. Connors, in my opinion, won the big ones-USO Finals '82 ands '83. Lendl had to overcome his mental handicap against Connors by increasing the gap between their game levels and waiting for Connors' level to drop off.
From 1973, when Laver beat Gorman in the Davis Cup final:
Henin took her revenge on Bartoli for the Wimbledon SF loss in 07 with a 6-0 6-0 win over Bartoli in the WTA championships
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