Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by davey25, Jun 25, 2010.
Who do you consider to have the greatest womens forehand of all time.
How many questions can you ask, for which the answer is Steffi Graf? Seriously, this isn't even debatable.
Stupid redundant thread. It is like reading all of War and Peace and then asking "Who is Natasha Rostov"?
I wasnt sure whether to include Lenglen or Sharapova as the final poll option. I decided upon Sharapova just since Lenglen was mostly know for her amazing all around and all court skills, and the forehand is Maria's best shot even when her serve is 100%.
I included Henin as an option since unlike most I think the forheand is her better side off the ground, not her backhand.
Unlike most people, you have multiple identities to make the opposite argument and clean up the bullshit.
I see my stalker Polaris is resuming her daily activity of following me around. Thank goodness for the ignore button to more easily cope with such what surely would be otherwise aggravating trolls.
I voted Graf,but Margaret Court was better... she was one super strong woman with vise-grip for hands ..
I go for Sharapova
Unbeatable. Serena,Sharapova,Henin all got nothin' on her.
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This is gonna be a landslide poll
I don't think that Sharapova deserves to make this poll. Her backhand is outstanding of course, but her forehand is anything special.
Even from active players, Clijsters, Kuznetsova and Dementieva all have better forehands than her, despite Kuznetsova being a mess right now.
Ivanovic's forehand was a huge weapon at her peak in 2007-2008, but of course it anywhere near as lethal right now, though she is even more over-reliant on it at the moment with her serve and backhand continually failing her. Still it was ridiculous that people were already comparing her forehand to Graf's so early on in her career.
I actually rated Vaidisova's forehand above Sharapova's when she was having some success on the tour and consistently reaching grand slam semi-finals and quarter-finals.
Nice to meet you senorita. Judging from your name,you must be a female.
Graf is the best forehand ever. Period.
Hmmm, difficult question ...
I hate to say this, but is there really any other logical choice but Graf?
Maybe the thread would be tougher if we picked the second best forehand.
Tell you what I'll pick Helen Wills for second best forehand.
I agree, it would be a lot more interesting if it was for second best.Most everyone on here who has offered opinions in the past have said Graf has by far the best female forehand, and one of the best overall forehands, ever. We don't need a poll to tell us this. Its almost a waste of space on the boards.
If I was to pick the 2nd best Forehand, I would be drawn between Davenport, Evert and maybe Wills....it would be a hard choice.
Graf had such a beautiful forehand! Evert had the most consistent forehand ever, in my opinion. Meanwhile, Graf had consistency, while also having the ability to really open up the court and hit lots of winners off the forehand side.
You admitted that you had me on the list for some time. Yet, you are able to read my posts. I suggest:
(a) Update your Ignore List, OR
(b) Admit that you are using multiple IDs to mislead everyone at TW. Tell us what these identities are. That will stop me from calling you out your bullshit.
Option (a) is easier. Option (b) would be braver. Take your pick.
BTW, LOL at the poll. 21 out of 23 vote for the expected answer, indicating that the poll is utterly meaningless.
Don't give him ideas, man !!!? You know, he is capable of making polls like "Who will win Rome in 2017?"
It will always be Steffi Graf, no matter what era, she could hit winners from all over the places from difficult positions. others maybe had textbook technique or even more power, but the Graf forehand remains a unique weapon.
Others played only textbook technique because they couldn't emulate the Graf technique.
With a racquet comparable to Steffi's?
I don't think so.
Like Bueno, King, Goolagong and many continental grip players, Court's forehand was her weaker wing in which she regularly hit under the ball.
It won't always be Steffi Graf someone will come along one day who will have a better forehand.
I thought of including Court on the poll too. It is hard to include all the worthy players. Come to think of it though Kuznetsova and Dementieva arguably have slightly better forehands than Sharapova so I probably shouldnt have included her on the poll.
It's hard to include all the greats when you talk about a specific category. I did a thread about greatest groundstrokes and I left out Agassi by accident. There are also a lot of contenders in a certain area that are too many to be covered by the number allowed for a poll.
It's still easily the Graf forehand - probably the single most devestating shot and weapon ever in the women's game. Period.
Graf and next Davenport for raw power.
But for variety it is Hana´s.Could do everything with it, maybe could do just a bit too much.until Stefi got real she had the best FH of the 80´s according to most male and female peers.
other all time greats are Conchita Martinez,Monica Seles,Virginia Ruzici and Sue Barker,And Court and Bueno were also excellent.
Wow, that's a tough one!
Maybe Wills? Or Radwanska?
Yes, Graf's forehand was a little bit one-dimensional.
Always fast, powerful and close to the lines.
Not in your lifetime.
I liked the way she ended it up with that torsion and racket head up in the follow through, I haven´t seen anyother player do that.
what is it that you think Mandlikova could do with hers that Graf could not? I think I've seen Graf hit them all including the lob, the slice, angles, drop shots. She developed more variety of spin on that wing to defend against the modern power game, including Pierce, Seles etc. She got her forehand lob around 1989ish. Helped her vs Martina and Sabatini.
Steffi Graf probably.
Court also had a solid flat one to pass with and for short balls, and one with a little top for rallying. Most of the forehands I saw her play, did not have underspin, although she did use underspin for some of her approaches and when pulled very wide.
it wasn't as pervasive in her game as it was Goolagong's for example.
Angles and change of pace?
Graf´s was so strong that she probably didn´t need that anyway
You are right, she rarely uses change of pace tactics at all, mostly it was to improve her defensive skills with the big babe tennis, but Graf did use angle forehands very effectively on clay. Of course Seles did this much better with her two-hander forehand and Gabby used her extraordinary topspin to create some soft and dangerous angle shots. I see your point.
Anyone who thinks it is anyone other than Graf, even those who think Graf is vastly overrated and probably in reality only the 7th or 8th best player all time, needs to see a shrink. Whether you think Graf merits her GOAT position or not (and perhaps she doesnt given how she got there), there is no question she has the best forehand ever.
Wish mine would have been so one dimensional
Game, set, and match Graf. There is no close second IMO.
For her time, yes. I saw a ton of Gaf matches. Far too many then I care to remember. Is there a WTA player of note now who doesn't hit the forehand as well or better than Graf?
Serena, Sharapova, Vika, Li Na all kill the forehand. It's a different world out there now.
Vika kills the forehand, ROTFL!!! That is news to me. Sharapova and Na kills as many forehands out of play as they do in them, and cant do anything else besides hit it as hard as they can with no thought to what else they are trying to do with it. Serena has a great forehand on a good day, but Ana freaking Ivanovic had ten times the forehand winners in their Australian Open match, something that probably wouldnt even happen to 50 year old Graf.
Sharapova and Li?
You mean those gals who lost to 40-year-old Kimiko Date in 2010?
Yeah, truly impressive forehands.
Graf must be shaking in her boots, you troll ...
I don't care who they lost to. The top of the WTA all hit forehands as hard as Graf did if not more. Graf's FH was revolutionary for it's time. It's time is long past now and many players hit as hard or harder off that wing than she did,
They all hit as hard if not harder than Graf did. The WTA as whole hits harder hit's much harder than the 80's and even the 90's which had some big hitters/
You are really a dimwit.
Only very few hit as hard as prime Steffi did. And they only do this because they have modern racket technology. Steffi with those rackets would hit harder than any of those current hacks. Sharapova, OMG ...
What geniuses like you never understood and never will understand is that Steffi's forehands were so devastating not only due to the power but because
A) of her perfect placement and
B) of her ability to hit them from everywhere (due to her footspeed).
Prime Steffi with a modern racket would really wipe the floor with all of the current players. Only exception is Serena on a good day who could give her a good fight.
Say, do you really think Steffi would need more than an hour to dispatch people like Radwanska, Li, Errani, Kerber, Azarenka, Kvitova??? Franky, i don't see anyone who would have prevented her from winning FO 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2013 for instance. Do you??
Teenage kids like you should be forced to hit with a Dunlop Max 200G for at least one hour before they are allowed to post in FPPT ...
How could you not see?..
....her nose clearly crossed the net!"
Graf had the biggest weapon in womens tennis in her blasting heavy and precise forehand..by a mile and a nose.
Hit with it many times. Your point?
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