Greatest Match of 2000's - 1/2 Fin: AO.2005.SF vs AO.2009.SF

GMot 00's: AO 2005 vs AO 2009


  • Total voters
    56

lud

Hall of Fame
Final Four matches remaining:
Match 1

Australian Open, 2005, Semi-Final
Safin vs Federer 5-7,6-4,5-7,7-6,9-7

vs

Australian Open, 2009, Semi-Final
Nadal vs Verdasco 6-7,6-4,7-6,6-7,6-4
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
Damn... :eek:

I hope the AO semifinal beats the Wimbledon final in the final of these series.
 

lud

Hall of Fame
I went with 2009. It was better all together quality match. But 2005 5th set was total drama madness.
 

tarutani

Rookie
Match Statistics
Player Roger Federer Marat Safin
1st Serve %
57% (107 of 188) 59% (123 of 207)
Aces 22 16
Double Faults 8 1
1st Serve Points Won 82% (88 of 107) 74% (91 of 123)
2nd Serve Points Won 51% (41 of 81) 52% (44 of 84)
Fastest Serve 213 220
Average 1st Serve 191 204
Average 2nd Serve 160 156
Break Points Won 29% (4 of 14) 31% (4 of 13)
Return Points Won 35% (72 of 207) 31% (59 of 188)
Unforced Errors 59 60
Winners 72 65
Total Points Won 201 194
Odds 1.174 5.65

Match Statistics
Player Rafael Nadal Fernando Verdasco
1st Serve %
74% (128 of 173) 69% (146 of 212)
Aces 12 20
Double Faults 3 4
1st Serve Points Won 72% (92 of 128) 71% (103 of 146)
2nd Serve Points Won 62% (28 of 45) 55% (36 of 66)
Fastest Serve 200 220
Average 1st Serve 182 188
Average 2nd Serve 143 158
Break Points Won 20% (4 of 20) 50% (2 of 4)
Return Points Won 34% (73 of 212) 31% (53 of 173)
Unforced Errors 25 76
Winners 52 95
Total Points Won 193 192
Odds 1.167 6.4
 

lud

Hall of Fame
Match Statistics
Player Roger Federer Marat Safin
1st Serve %
57% (107 of 188) 59% (123 of 207)
Aces 22 16
Double Faults 8 1
1st Serve Points Won 82% (88 of 107) 74% (91 of 123)
2nd Serve Points Won 51% (41 of 81) 52% (44 of 84)
Fastest Serve 213 220
Average 1st Serve 191 204
Average 2nd Serve 160 156
Break Points Won 29% (4 of 14) 31% (4 of 13)
Return Points Won 35% (72 of 207) 31% (59 of 188)
Unforced Errors 59 60
Winners 72 65
Total Points Won 201 194
Odds 1.174 5.65

Match Statistics
Player Rafael Nadal Fernando Verdasco
1st Serve %
74% (128 of 173) 69% (146 of 212)
Aces 12 20
Double Faults 3 4
1st Serve Points Won 72% (92 of 128) 71% (103 of 146)
2nd Serve Points Won 62% (28 of 45) 55% (36 of 66)
Fastest Serve 200 220
Average 1st Serve 182 188
Average 2nd Serve 143 158
Break Points Won 20% (4 of 20) 50% (2 of 4)
Return Points Won 34% (73 of 212) 31% (53 of 173)
Unforced Errors 25 76
Winners 52 95
Total Points Won 193 192
Odds 1.167 6.4

With this stats,how the hell Fed lose match??
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
Don't like the current results...

@metsman we must get Safin-Fed into the final of these series! ;)
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
Please fellow posters, listen to this smart man. It's imperative that we all vote for Federer here. We should all be unite like never before! Federer losing in SF to Nadal would be a real tragedy for TTW...
This is more because of Safin (and more importantly the amazing match) as far as I am concerned.
 

uliks

Banned
This is more because of Safin (and more importantly the amazing match) as far as I am concerned.
Actually is more about Federer winning everything on TTW even when his losing. The match was quite average level wise, real error fest in some important stages of that match, they had more quality matches beetwen them that's for sure, although it was dramatic but only because it was one of the biggest choke jobs in the Federer's career.
OTOH you have real spectacle in Nadal-Verdasco match, drama, twists, spectacular points, war of attrition, but let's vote Federer just to make him great again...;)
 

Flash O'Groove

Hall of Fame
I went for the 2009 SF because it's part an important rivalry, a true landmark for Nadal. Whereas the Safin match didn't mean much.
 

TheMaestro1990

Hall of Fame
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Deleted member 740774

Guest
My favorite thing about these matches is that both have the absolute peak level of one player, I think it's both Safin and verdasco's best matches of their career. I voted Safin though because of how unusual that loss was for Fed, and he still played great
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
Should have been the final, voted 2009, the opposite styles were just too great to see. Dasco hitting the absolute **** out of the ball and Rafa getting it all back.
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
Actually is more about Federer winning everything on TTW even when his losing. The match was quite average level wise, real error fest in some important stages of that match, they had more quality matches beetwen them that's for sure, although it was dramatic but only because it was one of the biggest choke jobs in the Federer's career.
OTOH you have real spectacle in Nadal-Verdasco match, drama, twists, spectacular points, war of attrition, but let's vote Federer just to make him great again...;)
:eek: I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.

Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
:eek: I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.

Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.

The 05 semi is generally seen by Fed fans as the only time peak Fed lost on a HC/Grass slam and tbh, it isn't too unreasonable to think so. Anyway if I could get a ticket for one of these matches I'd rather be at the 09 semi, I think that's the way people should think about it.
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
The 05 semi is generally seen by Fed fans as the only time peak Fed lost on a HC/Grass slam and tbh, it isn't too unreasonable to think so. Anyway if I could get a ticket for one of these matches I'd rather be at the 09 semi, I think that's the way people should think about it.
It is close between the two matches. I gave my vote to 05 semi because the quality seemed to just go higher and higher with time, and also because of my Safin bias. Rafa though is a magnet for amazing matches like no other player. Even as someone who isn't a big fan of his, I got to say his contribution to epic battles of the last 12 years has been enormous.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Actually is more about Federer winning everything on TTW even when his losing. The match was quite average level wise, real error fest in some important stages of that match, they had more quality matches beetwen them that's for sure, although it was dramatic but only because it was one of the biggest choke jobs in the Federer's career.
OTOH you have real spectacle in Nadal-Verdasco match, drama, twists, spectacular points, war of attrition, but let's vote Federer just to make him great again...;)

Oh, look ,the resident moron is at it again.
 

uliks

Banned
:eek: I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.

Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.
Actually I watched that match like couple of times already and I stand by my comment. Their Houston match just few weeks before the 2005 AO was much better quality wise. But Peak Almighty Invincible i can walk on water Fed lost a slam match so let's make a real myth out of it. ;) In reality that match was close only because of the extreme Fed's mental brainfarts that evening, especially the 4 set tie break, amazing choke job in that one...
 
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uliks

Banned
:eek: I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.

Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.
Also i suggest you to watch the Safin-Sampras USO final for some real Peak Safin action...;)
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
Actually I watched that match like couple of times already and I stand by my comment. Their Houston match just few weeks before the 2005 AO was much better quality wise. But Peak Almighty Invincible i can walk on water Fed lost a slam match so let's make a real myth out of it. ;) In reality that match was close only because of the extreme Fed's mental brainfarts that evening, especially the 4 set tie break, amazing choke job in that one...
Don't know if you mixed up this match for some other or if you want to trigger Federer fans but the 4th set tiebreak was great. Federer played some great shots to get the advantage (perfect dropshots and return of serve) and Safin put on a brave aggressive display to get back into it. Most notably he played two flawless points after being a match point down. Fed's shank on a set point was the only bad moment of the tiebreak.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Don't know if you mixed up this match for some other or if you want to trigger Federer fans but the 4th set tiebreak was great. Federer played some great shots to get the advantage (perfect dropshots and return of serve) and Safin put on a brave aggressive display to get back into it. Most notably he played two flawless points after being a match point down. Fed's shank on a set point was the only bad moment of the tiebreak.

he's just a troll ...who hates federer and federer fans.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
Can't vote for any match on that piece of garbage called Plexicushion, so I go with the other match.

Nothing wrong with plexi, it baffles me how many of you think RA was fast. RA was medium, plexi isn't far off it. Some years like 2012 it was too slow I'll give you that, but in 09 and a lot of the years since 08 it has been around what RA used to be.
 

BlackSilver

Semi-Pro
Nothing wrong with plexi, it baffles me how many of you think RA was fast. RA was medium, plexi isn't far off it. Some years like 2012 it was too slow I'll give you that, but in 09 and a lot of the years since 08 it has been around what RA used to be.

There are far more important things than speed my son.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Voted AO 2005 for the following reasons *match spoilers*:

1. Calibre of the Players involved
2. Overall match quality
3. Intensity of atmosphere (crowd / player emotions)
4. The sustained brilliance of the fifth set
5. Historical significance - Safin went on to deny Hewitt his best chance at winning his home major.
 

Mazz Retic

Hall of Fame
09 personally however I understand many would say the 05 was a higher quality. I think the 09 had more drama involved including the 5th set with Verdasco getting tight.
 
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