Match Statistics
Player Roger Federer Marat Safin
1st Serve % 57% (107 of 188) 59% (123 of 207)
Aces 22 16
Double Faults 8 1
1st Serve Points Won 82% (88 of 107) 74% (91 of 123)
2nd Serve Points Won 51% (41 of 81) 52% (44 of 84)
Fastest Serve 213 220
Average 1st Serve 191 204
Average 2nd Serve 160 156
Break Points Won 29% (4 of 14) 31% (4 of 13)
Return Points Won 35% (72 of 207) 31% (59 of 188)
Unforced Errors 59 60
Winners 72 65
Total Points Won 201 194
Odds 1.174 5.65
Match Statistics
Player Rafael Nadal Fernando Verdasco
1st Serve % 74% (128 of 173) 69% (146 of 212)
Aces 12 20
Double Faults 3 4
1st Serve Points Won 72% (92 of 128) 71% (103 of 146)
2nd Serve Points Won 62% (28 of 45) 55% (36 of 66)
Fastest Serve 200 220
Average 1st Serve 182 188
Average 2nd Serve 143 158
Break Points Won 20% (4 of 20) 50% (2 of 4)
Return Points Won 34% (73 of 212) 31% (53 of 173)
Unforced Errors 25 76
Winners 52 95
Total Points Won 193 192
Odds 1.167 6.4
He was not 100 % fit.With this stats,how the hell Fed lose match??
He was not 100 % fit.
Of course.He was not 100 % fit.
Excuse me?Hey,I think you mixed up Fed with some of Nadal matches![]()
Please fellow posters, listen to this smart man. It's imperative that we all vote for Federer here. We should all be unite like never before! Federer losing in SF to Nadal would be a real tragedy for TTW...
Excuse me?
This is more because of Safin (and more importantly the amazing match) as far as I am concerned.Please fellow posters, listen to this smart man. It's imperative that we all vote for Federer here. We should all be unite like never before! Federer losing in SF to Nadal would be a real tragedy for TTW...
Actually is more about Federer winning everything on TTW even when his losing. The match was quite average level wise, real error fest in some important stages of that match, they had more quality matches beetwen them that's for sure, although it was dramatic but only because it was one of the biggest choke jobs in the Federer's career.This is more because of Safin (and more importantly the amazing match) as far as I am concerned.
I went for the 2009 SF because it's part an important rivalry, a true landmark for Nadal. Whereas the Safin match didn't mean much.
I don't get it. What rivalry? Nadal vs Verdasco?? This isn't much of rivalry.
Actually is more about Federer winning everything on TTW even when his losing. The match was quite average level wise, real error fest in some important stages of that match, they had more quality matches beetwen them that's for sure, although it was dramatic but only because it was one of the biggest choke jobs in the Federer's career.
OTOH you have real spectacle in Nadal-Verdasco match, drama, twists, spectacular points, war of attrition, but let's vote Federer just to make him great again...![]()
I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.
Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.
It is close between the two matches. I gave my vote to 05 semi because the quality seemed to just go higher and higher with time, and also because of my Safin bias. Rafa though is a magnet for amazing matches like no other player. Even as someone who isn't a big fan of his, I got to say his contribution to epic battles of the last 12 years has been enormous.The 05 semi is generally seen by Fed fans as the only time peak Fed lost on a HC/Grass slam and tbh, it isn't too unreasonable to think so. Anyway if I could get a ticket for one of these matches I'd rather be at the 09 semi, I think that's the way people should think about it.
Actually is more about Federer winning everything on TTW even when his losing. The match was quite average level wise, real error fest in some important stages of that match, they had more quality matches beetwen them that's for sure, although it was dramatic but only because it was one of the biggest choke jobs in the Federer's career.
OTOH you have real spectacle in Nadal-Verdasco match, drama, twists, spectacular points, war of attrition, but let's vote Federer just to make him great again...![]()
Actually I watched that match like couple of times already and I stand by my comment. Their Houston match just few weeks before the 2005 AO was much better quality wise. But Peak Almighty Invincible i can walk on water Fed lost a slam match so let's make a real myth out of it.I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.
Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.
Also i suggest you to watch the Safin-Sampras USO final for some real Peak Safin action...I suggest you rewatch it buddy. It was spectacular.
Well Federer lost the match, as well as the 2008 Wimbledon final which is leading the other poll, so I don't think getting those votes is something great for him.
Don't know if you mixed up this match for some other or if you want to trigger Federer fans but the 4th set tiebreak was great. Federer played some great shots to get the advantage (perfect dropshots and return of serve) and Safin put on a brave aggressive display to get back into it. Most notably he played two flawless points after being a match point down. Fed's shank on a set point was the only bad moment of the tiebreak.Actually I watched that match like couple of times already and I stand by my comment. Their Houston match just few weeks before the 2005 AO was much better quality wise. But Peak Almighty Invincible i can walk on water Fed lost a slam match so let's make a real myth out of it.In reality that match was close only because of the extreme Fed's mental brainfarts that evening, especially the 4 set tie break, amazing choke job in that one...
Don't know if you mixed up this match for some other or if you want to trigger Federer fans but the 4th set tiebreak was great. Federer played some great shots to get the advantage (perfect dropshots and return of serve) and Safin put on a brave aggressive display to get back into it. Most notably he played two flawless points after being a match point down. Fed's shank on a set point was the only bad moment of the tiebreak.
Can't vote for any match on that piece of garbage called Plexicushion, so I go with the other match.
Nothing wrong with plexi, it baffles me how many of you think RA was fast. RA was medium, plexi isn't far off it. Some years like 2012 it was too slow I'll give you that, but in 09 and a lot of the years since 08 it has been around what RA used to be.