Greatest Player of All Times (school research project)

The Greatest Player of All Times

  • Bjorn Borg

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Margaret Court

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chris Evert

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Roger Federer

    Votes: 53 63.1%
  • Steffi Graf

    Votes: 14 16.7%
  • Rod Laver

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Martina Navratilova

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Pete Sampras

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 7.1%

  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .

yevmes

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Hi,
My 10 year old daughter is doing a school personal interest project and she decided to determine who the greatest player of all time is and why.

So the question is: who do you think the greatest player (male or female) of all time is and what (personal qualities, style of play or statistics) makes that player the greatest?

Thank you for your input.
 
Hi,
My 10 year old daughter is doing a school personal interest project and she decided to determine who the greatest player of all time is and why.

So the question is: who do you think the greatest player (male or female) of all time is and what (personal qualities, style of play or statistics) makes that player the greatest?

Thank you for your input.


no offense but to me
this sounds like a load of ****:neutral:
 
lol no nadal, this will be fun.

No Nadal simple because we can't put everybody on that poll and we wanted to cover both genders and longer time period. If you think Nadal is the greatest, simply say it and the reasons you think so.
Thank you.
 
Hi,
My 10 year old daughter is doing a school personal interest project and she decided to determine who the greatest player of all time is and why.

So the question is: who do you think the greatest player (male or female) of all time is and what (personal qualities, style of play or statistics) makes that player the greatest?

Thank you for your input.

male: Serena Williams ;-)
 
Guys, it is very important for us to know why you selected any particular person. So please write a couple of sentences about the reasons for your selection.
And again, please do not get offended if you don't see any particular player, as it seems to be the case with Nadal. We did not put him or others for any particular reasons, just not enough space to put everybody. We can take him into account if you simple click "other" and put his name in your post. Thanks again.
 
Thank you, Dechizen. What do you think makes Federer the greatest as of now, number of slams, his style, his domination or/and something else. Thanks

There are many, he can play on all surfaces at the top, imagine if nadal did not exist, 3 or 4 french opens for Federer, he is well rounded, he can play from anywhere whether it's from the net or baseline, the variety - he's the complete package.

He has broken almost all the records, he's consitency - 23 straight semifinals at grand-slams:shock: is considered to be one of the greatest records in history, but of course the most important thing is the grand-slams, it's what all tennis players want, even more than being number 1, 16 grand-slams is amazing, not only because of the record but because mens tennis has never been so physical and competitive.
 
but of course the most important thing is the grand-slams, it's what all tennis players want, even more than being number 1, 16 grand-slams is amazing, not only because of the record but because mens tennis has never been so physical and competitive.

Dechizen, what is your opinion on women's slams and why do you think they are not taken seriously when talked about the greatest status? I admit that the reasons why my daughter picked this topic is that she wanted to know why people do not consider women in the greatest player discussion. She knows that Court and Graf have more slams, but nobody never mentions them as the greatest.
 
Laver because he is the only one to have had completed two Grand Slams, then I'd say Fed, Sampras, Tillden, Rosewall, anyone else with the correct backhand
 
Dechizen, what is your opinion on women's slams and why do you think they are not taken seriously when talked about the greatest status? I admit that the reasons why my daughter picked this topic is that she wanted to know why people do not consider women in the greatest player discussion. She knows that Court and Graf have more slams, but nobody never mentions them as the greatest.

Any top 500 male would easily beat Graf in her prime. Women's tennis is very inferior to mens tennis.
 
Steffi Graf of course. After Graf then Laver. Federer having more votes than Graf is a prime. Graf would never allow herself to be embarassed in a rivalry the way Federer has been by Nadal. Even peak Seles who everyone thinks is some eternal god was 2-3 vs slumping Graf, got spanked in 2 of the 3 losses, and barely won in both her wins over Graf. Never would Graf allow herself to lose a slam final 6-1, 6-3, 6-0 or an arch rival beat her in a slam final on every surface close to her prime. Graf dominated all surfaces, not just hard courts and grass like Federer.
 
I think it's stupid to label one man/woman as the best of all time. Considering the difference in playing conditions, surfaces, style and of course quality of opponents, etc. For me its between Laver and Fed. I also think if Nadal plays through the next 2-3 years at least, he will join these guys. I voted for Laver. Me like the 2 CYGSs.
 
ditto. no offense.

I can neither prove it nor disprove it, but why do you think I could not just ask this question directly and covering it with "my daughter's project". She is reading these posts with me and i wanted people to keep it civilized, and I though it would serve as a good reminder if i mention it. I am old enough not go give a damn who the greatest player of all time is. Thanks.
 
I think it's stupid to label one man/woman as the best of all time.

I agree with you that it is very irrelevant topic and i personally don't care about it as well, as I just said above, but why do you think people talk about it so much, what fuels that discussion, fans, media? Do you think mentioned players care about their status?
 
So do we simply take the slam numbers and make this conclusion? But what about women, say Court of Graf with more slams? What about old timers who were not allowed to play in slams? Numbers are easy, but we think there is more to it than just numbers.

Actually if you look at the times, things like percentage and put all the total numbers in proper context you can make some logical conclusions. I do think that just looking at the fixed number of majors is deceiving because, as you wrote, the players of the past weren't allowed to play majors for various reasons at time.

I also think that in this case it is reasonable to say a female player may be superior to a male player relative to the competition. I would probably pick the best male and the best female however.

So a Margaret Court with close to 200 tournament victories, a Grand Slam in 1970 and 24 majors is a reasonable choice. So is Graf, with 107 tournaments won and 22 majors plus a Grand Slam in 1988. Navratilova has 18 majors and 167 tournaments won. Evert, also 18 majors and I believe 154 tournaments won.

You can go back further with Suzanne Lenglen, who was almost unbeatable. Helen Wills, Alice Marble and Maureen Connolly who I believe won 9 straight majors including a Grand Slam.

Bill Tilden won eight majors out of eight played at one point at his best. He was almost unbeatable in the 1920's and was still super into the 1930's. He won about 161 tournaments in his career and ten regular majors plus three pro majors for thirteen majors.

Don Budge won the Grand Slam in 1938 and was a superb player.

Fred Perry won a lot of majors including three straight Wimbledons.

Jack Kramer was unbeaten in his head to head Pro Tours and was a tremendous player. A number of experts thought he was the best ever.

Pancho Gonzalez was the dominant player of the 1950's and was a super player. Gonzalez won about 121 tournaments in his career.

Ken Rosewall won 136 tournaments and if you include Pro Majors won 23 majors. He was still winning into the late 1970's and was able to defeat Vitas Gerulaitis for example I believe when he was over 40.

Rod Laver won two Grand Slams in 1962 and 1969. He also won a Pro Grand Slam in 1967. Laver won about 199 tournaments in his career and about 19 majors if you included Pro Majors.

And of course there is Borg, Connors, McEnroe, Federer and Sampras. I'm too lazy to list all their accomplishments but there are many.

I would love to say Bitsy Grant is the GOAT just because I'm always amused by the name but I can't say that. But apparently the guy was pretty good, all 5'4" 120 pounds of him. lol.
 
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I would probably pick the best male and the best female player

Thanks for your input, very much appreciated. I agree with you on that one, But as we know, it is not the case. During any tv broadcast, women are almost never mentioned in that discussion and Federer, for example, is always mentioned as the gratest "player", and not "the greatest male player". I think it is kind of disrespectful to a lot of great female players.
 
There is no such thing as "the greatest". Every champion brought something to the sport that is complementary to what the others brought, not mutually exclusive.
 
There is no such thing as "the greatest". Every champion brought something to the sport that is complementary to what the others brought, not mutually exclusive.

You may be right but this is a ten year old girl's project and I don't think she can write that for her teacher. So for the purposes of this thread we should try to help with info for her to make some sort of decision.
 
Hi,
My 10 year old daughter is doing a school personal interest project and she decided to determine who the greatest player of all time is and why.

So the question is: who do you think the greatest player (male or female) of all time is and what (personal qualities, style of play or statistics) makes that player the greatest?

Thank you for your input.

Pancho Gonzalez is conspicuously missing from your poll.
 
There is no such thing as "the greatest". Every champion brought something to the sport that is complementary to what the others brought, not mutually exclusive.
Thank you too and i totally agree with you. Would love to have more input like this. As I asked before, why do you think people still talk about it? Is it just peole of these boards? Or media just needs something to talk about? Why can't we accept that there is not such thing as "the greatest".
 
To pc1: yes, why not? Her teacher should ask IF there is "a greatest" rather than automatically assume there must be 1. If it was "favorite player", then it would be another matter but objectively speaking, there is not 1 tennis player who has every record and every achievement, there are several ones who stand out as having achieved a lot. That's as far as one can go.
 
You may be right but this is a ten year old girl's project and I don't think she can write that for her teacher. So for the purposes of this thread we should try to help with info for her to make some sort of decision.

Pc1, I think she can write this to the teacher as long as she can make reasonable arguments for it. So let's keep this conversation going in different direction and she can make her own conclusions. I probably would need to help her whith all these information though :)
 
To pc1: yes, why not? Her teacher should ask IF there is "a greatest" rather than automatically assume there must be 1. If it was "favorite player", then it would be another matter but objectively speaking, there is not 1 tennis player who has every record and every achievement, there are several ones who stand out as having achieved a lot. That's as far as one can go.

Yeah someone like Michael Phelps in swimming is a sure call since he does hold every record out there. In tennis there isnt such a person on either gender.
 
I agree with you that it is very irrelevant topic and i personally don't care about it as well, as I just said above, but why do you think people talk about it so much, what fuels that discussion, fans, media? Do you think mentioned players care about their status?

I don't think it's irrelevant. I think there is def an elite group of great players. But to pick one is difficult. Who does your daughter like?
 
Who does your daughter like?
She likes playing tennis, but she is not like me who loves the game in general. She liked Sharapova at some point of time, but mostly probably because Sharapova is also Russian and my daughter has always been teased by adults as being next Sharapova :)
She is old enough now to understand and appreciate Roger's style or Nadal's athleticism. But that whole conversation started when she learned about Graf's slam record and she quickly pointed out that she has more slams than Roger, so it intrigued her that Graf is never mentioned in the goat debate. So she decided to make a school project out of this, but had to expand the topic a bit since concentrating on Graf would have been too narrow.
Funny thing is that she wants to write to Graf and ask for her opinion. It remains to be seen if we can somehow find a way to at least send something without actually expecting to hear anything back.
We live in Vancouver, so the plan is also to try to contact local legend Grant Connell and ask him what his take on this. He is a real estate agent now, so it should be possible to get in touch with him.
I normally do not interfere with my daughter's school work, but it is such as interesting topic that i decided to chip in.
 
LOL I like your choice of poll options, pretty funny. My vote goes to Safin, although Nadal is becoming a real factor at the very top of the GOAT debate.


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If this poll on offline,then you can find correct answer.Because ,Steffi or Sampras fans(great majority) don't know browsing the internet.

For me:
1)Steffi Graf
2)Pete Sampras
3)Martina Navratilova
4)Roger Federer
5)Nadal
6)Rod Laver
7)Borg
 
Hi,
My 10 year old daughter is doing a school personal interest project and she decided to determine who the greatest player of all time is and why.

So the question is: who do you think the greatest player (male or female) of all time is and what (personal qualities, style of play or statistics) makes that player the greatest?

Thank you for your input.

Wow, how would you compare the men to the women. The women can rack up slams cause one gets way ahead of the field.
 
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