r2473
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It's hard to play tennis while driving a porche (or even a porsche). Sure, they accelerate and corner nicely, but.........
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It's hard to play tennis while driving a porche (or even a porsche). Sure, they accelerate and corner nicely, but.........
WildVolley
Legend
California limits the ability to do this by having a round-robin format. Each singles player plays every other singles player. Same for the doubles teams. Slow starters don't like it, but I think it is a superior format for assessing the ability of the players and the depth of a team.
tennis tom
Legend
Maybe he played for San Quentin.
TheOneHander
Professional
gregor.b
Professional
Here in Queensland,Australia we have a two man Davis Cup format where you play reverse singles and doubles so it does even up.Of course,everyone is graded before the comp starts so it tends to be a bit more even.
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Playnice
Guest
Is It Worth It?
Stacking IS considered bad form, no doubt. It is also called sandbagging. IMO it is a desperation move and a sign that the captain believes his team is too weak to win legitimately. Whenever I realized another team captain was stacking the lineup I would laugh and feel confident knowing that the other team felt so weak against us that they had to resort to desperate measures. I wouldn't let my players know what was happening either. I just let them think they were playing a fairly matched lineup and tell all the players that they had what it took to beat the opponent and to just play their best.
On one team, when I was playing up at 4.0 and new to the team, I remember coming out of the bathroom and getting my lineup position for singles at an area playoff match (the winner that day would go to sectionals). As I approached everyone on the team had a glum look and the captain told me, "I'm so sorry, I never imagined the other team would do this..." Not knowing what she meant I was soon informed by every player that the opponent I had drawn at #2 singles was THE STRONGEST PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE WITH A PERFECT RECORD AT 3.5 and 4.0, and had just played another singles match a 1/2 hour before which she won 6-0, 6-0. Knowing this I just resigned myself to try my best and lost 6-0, 6-0, my only double bagel in 6 years of league tennis. I even remember my teammate on the court next to me, who was playing #1 singles hiss, "they should put me in your spot, I could beat her". She did not, unfortunately do much better than I and lost 6-2, 6-2.
As a captain I would never enforce stacking unless the team voted to do so. There is an important reason for this: by stacking you are asking (or demanding) that one or more of your players or doubles teams sacrifice the possibility of a legitimate win and be given the job of losing. A really dedicated team member may be willing to do so for the greater good, but if the player is not comfortable being asked to do so, it should not be expected of him/her.
I have seen players lose friendships over such demands. I have also seen big tears and bitterness after a match in which a player or doubles team was expected to go out and get whipped at #1 when they could have won at #3. I also saw my team (I was not captain at the time) disintegrate in the sectional championship when a few team members incited a last-minute mutiny over the lineup, leaving one player completely out of the competition, another partnered with someone she had no experience playing with and intense pressure put on the #1 and #2 doubles teams to win at all costs. I remember the captain telling me as I approached to get my court assignment, "the inmates have taken over the asylum!". Well, the sacrificial team (me and my partner who was crying uncontrollably with anger and disappointment at the switch in the lineup) almost pulled it off in a 10-8 nailbiter 3rd set tiebreak, but the #2 singles and both the other doubles teams (the sure bets) all lost miserably, leaving us down 1-4 and out of the finals. That team never did recover as the bad vibes among players killed the otherwise happy and successful camaraderie.
In another instance I saw a captain insist that one player on the team be put in the sacrificial position not once but twice in a single sectional championship weekend. Not nice...When the player and team objected the captain simply said "it's not open for debate". That player and captain, who were very close friends, did not speak for 2 years.
So, when you contemplate stacking, be sure to take into consideration all aspects of the decision. You may win the battle but lose the war...
Stacking IS considered bad form, no doubt. It is also called sandbagging. IMO it is a desperation move and a sign that the captain believes his team is too weak to win legitimately. Whenever I realized another team captain was stacking the lineup I would laugh and feel confident knowing that the other team felt so weak against us that they had to resort to desperate measures. I wouldn't let my players know what was happening either. I just let them think they were playing a fairly matched lineup and tell all the players that they had what it took to beat the opponent and to just play their best.
On one team, when I was playing up at 4.0 and new to the team, I remember coming out of the bathroom and getting my lineup position for singles at an area playoff match (the winner that day would go to sectionals). As I approached everyone on the team had a glum look and the captain told me, "I'm so sorry, I never imagined the other team would do this..." Not knowing what she meant I was soon informed by every player that the opponent I had drawn at #2 singles was THE STRONGEST PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE WITH A PERFECT RECORD AT 3.5 and 4.0, and had just played another singles match a 1/2 hour before which she won 6-0, 6-0. Knowing this I just resigned myself to try my best and lost 6-0, 6-0, my only double bagel in 6 years of league tennis. I even remember my teammate on the court next to me, who was playing #1 singles hiss, "they should put me in your spot, I could beat her". She did not, unfortunately do much better than I and lost 6-2, 6-2.
As a captain I would never enforce stacking unless the team voted to do so. There is an important reason for this: by stacking you are asking (or demanding) that one or more of your players or doubles teams sacrifice the possibility of a legitimate win and be given the job of losing. A really dedicated team member may be willing to do so for the greater good, but if the player is not comfortable being asked to do so, it should not be expected of him/her.
I have seen players lose friendships over such demands. I have also seen big tears and bitterness after a match in which a player or doubles team was expected to go out and get whipped at #1 when they could have won at #3. I also saw my team (I was not captain at the time) disintegrate in the sectional championship when a few team members incited a last-minute mutiny over the lineup, leaving one player completely out of the competition, another partnered with someone she had no experience playing with and intense pressure put on the #1 and #2 doubles teams to win at all costs. I remember the captain telling me as I approached to get my court assignment, "the inmates have taken over the asylum!". Well, the sacrificial team (me and my partner who was crying uncontrollably with anger and disappointment at the switch in the lineup) almost pulled it off in a 10-8 nailbiter 3rd set tiebreak, but the #2 singles and both the other doubles teams (the sure bets) all lost miserably, leaving us down 1-4 and out of the finals. That team never did recover as the bad vibes among players killed the otherwise happy and successful camaraderie.
In another instance I saw a captain insist that one player on the team be put in the sacrificial position not once but twice in a single sectional championship weekend. Not nice...When the player and team objected the captain simply said "it's not open for debate". That player and captain, who were very close friends, did not speak for 2 years.
So, when you contemplate stacking, be sure to take into consideration all aspects of the decision. You may win the battle but lose the war...
mightyrick
Legend
I would say this about any kind of gamesmanship. Tennis has a lot of gamesmanship that doesn't break the rules, but is clearly "bush league". Sandbagging of any kind is the same thing. It isn't against the rules, per se, and it is part of the game, but clearly it is gamesmanship.
Mahboob Khan
Hall of Fame
Humanity is bigger than tennis! Tennis -- whether you win or lose -- should be an enjoyable experience. Winning or losing in tennis should not be used to degrade someone afterall we are humans.
How can we attract new players to tennis if 50% match losers are disrespected, or we cheat to hide rankings, etc?
This thread should have been:
The Worst Post You may Ever Read.
How can we attract new players to tennis if 50% match losers are disrespected, or we cheat to hide rankings, etc?
This thread should have been:
The Worst Post You may Ever Read.
ttwarrior1
Hall of Fame
We didn't degrate anyone, if anyone was, we were the ones being degrated at the time.
arche3
Banned
You are a troll. Go home. I thought you were too busy doing your ice cream diet and shake weights to come here anymore.
BaboFan
Rookie
Please position the camera so we can see the court and ball action... perhaps a helicopter shot
dParis
Hall of Fame
I have the feeling if you met God, you'd try to eat Him.
I don't know if the OP is a troll, but he met one once. And ate it.
No can do. He ate the helicopter...
...but they're great with salt and ketchup. Just ask the OP.
OP won't be doing that anymore. After the match he roasted and ate the sacrificial lamb.
Datacipher
Banned
He did. He is as advertised....exactly what I expect from TW! His serves are way over 120mph!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wph8kvabf7E
Limpinhitter
G.O.A.T.
I think that's the best semi-western slice serves I've ever seen. No, really! How does he do it?
HAHAHAHAHA ok this vid got me laughing pretty good.
If he serves 120mph I must serve 140mph +
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
oh my lord!
he must be trolling, surely? That's...awful!
even the ones that go over bounce 3 times before they make the back fence!
dParis
Hall of Fame
The OP stopped and had something to eat between the time he set up the camera and stepped onto the court.
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Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
This captures the motion better I feel..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1fXyEtxFsM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1fXyEtxFsM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
TTMR
Hall of Fame
Something must be wrong with the radar gun. Those serves were an easy 125.
Yes something was wrong with the radar gun , the OP ate it !
TTMR
Hall of Fame
I am also a fan of his groundstroke technique:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ttwarrior1#p/u/0/yGjKXTt5Zuw
Maximizing his dexterity in both hands in order to utilize his vast wingspan and minimize inefficient lateral movement.
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
Rubens
Hall of Fame
The first man to win against the wall.
ttwarrior1
Hall of Fame
that vid wasn't for you folks it was for people at a gambling forum that dared me to just post a vid
Also my serves do not bounce, slice, spin and you just couldnt tell how fast they are on those vids
Tennis is done for me for the year, i will have vids of me playing actual matches in the spring
Also my serves do not bounce, slice, spin and you just couldnt tell how fast they are on those vids
Tennis is done for me for the year, i will have vids of me playing actual matches in the spring
goober
Legend
Hint : think frying pan
Manus Domini
Hall of Fame
They definitely don't bounce far.
TheOneHander
Professional
Sorry, I couldn't see those 125mph serves whizzing by on their way to the fence. The whole two bounces before the baseline thing screws up my depth perception.
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I applaud you, sir. This is the best thread evar.
ordinarymangoe3
New User
hahahaha this freaking hilarious. ignore all the haters on here dude. best day ever sounds like.
Sanavan
Rookie
You are right, amazing serve! New technique: Waist height serve
holaturtle
New User
I'm crying I'm laughing so hard over this comment. I'm a big 80s movie buff and this made my day.
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
Man this thread started 6 years ago....and seeing the new vid....he should be a lot better now!
The thread was funning and the opening post was hilarious.
OP....if you want to get better at tennis....first get your fitness up high. You need a good base to start improvements and allow gateways to skills.
Try Insanity from BeachBody. If thos vids are from 2011.....a 5-6 years of tennis should made you tons better. From that vid it shows you didn't. There is so much the physical body can be limited too. I was overweight before, P90X and Insanity got me in the normal range....and my endurance is at a sky high!
The thread was funning and the opening post was hilarious.
OP....if you want to get better at tennis....first get your fitness up high. You need a good base to start improvements and allow gateways to skills.
Try Insanity from BeachBody. If thos vids are from 2011.....a 5-6 years of tennis should made you tons better. From that vid it shows you didn't. There is so much the physical body can be limited too. I was overweight before, P90X and Insanity got me in the normal range....and my endurance is at a sky high!
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arche3
Banned
Tt warrior does not need to lose weight man. He is the epic hitter. 120 serves.
I seriously doubt he guy even plays tennis. Only time he picked up a racket was to shoot those videos.
I seriously doubt he guy even plays tennis. Only time he picked up a racket was to shoot those videos.
10sEmporer
Banned
define the term 'waist high'
Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
Watcha expect with an Iron Skillet grip.
ttwarrior1
Hall of Fame
new vids coming soon, also lost 20 pounds with a pre diabetes scare. Just what i needed
Sanavan
Rookie
Yes, you REALLY needed!
Fedexpress94
New User
I feel like you just exaggerated the situation way too much...
ttwarrior1
Hall of Fame
next tourney about a month, what a thread
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