Greatest Post You May Ever Read, Tell Everyone

This is one of the best threads ever. ttwarrior1, you are an inspiration to all tennis players. Not everybody has to look like Giles "toothpick" Simon to play tennis.
 
Indiantwist said:
But isnt Best player a subjective word. For example if i have two kids of almost identical calibre, depending on the opponent, the day, etc etc either of them can be best. So the best player decision is left to the Coach.
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If the circumstances change and you define the best player as being the most well suited player, then when you make your decision, you are trying to assess an objective fact: that is, you are looking for who's most fitted for the job. You do not decide who's most fitted; you evaluate it. Of course, you might make a poor choice, but there is definitely a player who will have a statistical advantage on the day over all the other players on the team -- and that's not subjective: it is true, regardless of your ability to determine it or even whether or not you tried to figure it out.

Once you propose a definition of something that is clear, isn't prone to equivocation and lends itself to its usage in a test, we're making a scientific comparison and that's not subjective. On the other hand, you might use the word subjective to describe the fact that we take part actively into the process of building ideas, but then it would mean that your comment -- the little precision about the "best" being subjective -- is totally void as the meaning you would use here applies to every other thought; in short, you'd be saying that determining who's the best player is like any other thing and I do not see how it would add to the discussion. Anyway, you can measure who's the best players as far as a definition is provided (which you did: you said that it depends on the conditions in which he plays, that the most fitted is the best on that day). You can figure it out and the answer lies beyond opinion.

However, I hardly see how they would call cheating what you could interpret as a mistake. If they go and tell you that you didn't provide them with an optimal line-up, they cannot conclude it's cheating, even if it's clearly written that players must be ordered accordingly to their relative abilities (from the best player to the least potent one). For all we know, the same fact could be used to support a point made that you didn't evaluate them properly... hence, the conclusion doesn't follow and you're not guilty unless otherwise shown.


Most people are disgrace to this sport and the OP have seen a bunch of them once he has showed them how it's done!:)
 
ttwarrior1 said:
WE decided to to to mcdonalds but after we won we decided its time to go to Golden Corral.
GUESS WHAT HAPPENS. OTHER TEAM SHOWS UP .
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ttwarrior1 said:
Not much to say really about the meeting at golden corral except all the sad and upset faces of the other teams, especially the parents. We took the last piece of everything so they would have to wait for their food.
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These country club millionaire types (kids and parents) all decided that the best place to eat was a buffett at the Golden Coral?

They must have felt like they needed to punish themselves to do penance for their loss and subsequent bad behavior.
 
I came in way late on this thread, but I have to agree with the opposing team on your tactics. It doesn't seem very cool at al lthe way you handled yourself. Blowing the other coach a kiss? Please. Your story is a little bit funny, but is certainly not representative of how most coaches would handle themselves. Sorry.
 
ttwarrior1 said:
i shouldn't of ate 2 large pizzas today,
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I'm warning you that you need to up posting level. Do not disrespect the "greatest post ever."

For instance, this post should have had at least an eating contest or something else that was awesome, like angry rich parents, drunken teens, a fight, coeds, or perhaps an angry uptight principal.

ttwarrior, you have a reputation to uphold. Don't let us down!
 
IA-SteveB said:
I came in way late on this thread, but I have to agree with the opposing team on your tactics. It doesn't seem very cool at al lthe way you handled yourself. Blowing the other coach a kiss? Please. Your story is a little bit funny, but is certainly not representative of how most coaches would handle themselves. Sorry.
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Dude I guess you haven't seen his 120 mph serve? The guy is 350 lbs but moves like a gazelle. He has the ability to hang with 5.0s but on a bad day 2.5 can trip him up. As far as a coach, he models himself after Rex Ryan of the NY jets both in stature and antics.
 
goober said:
Dude I guess you haven't seen his 120 mph serve? The guy is 350 lbs but moves like a gazelle. He has the ability to hang with 5.0s but on a bad day 2.5 can trip him up. As far as a coach, he models himself after Rex Ryan of the NY jets both in stature and antics.
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Don't forget when he dressed in a black knit cap and broke into someone's house to take pictures of their tennis trophies.
 
1HBH Rocks said:
If the circumstances change and you define the best player as being the most well suited player, then when you make your decision, you are trying to assess an objective fact: that is, you are looking for who's most fitted for the job. You do not decide who's most fitted; you evaluate it. Of course, you might make a poor choice, but there is definitely a player who will have a statistical advantage on the day over all the other players on the team -- and that's not subjective: it is true, regardless of your ability to determine it or even whether or not you tried to figure it out.

Once you propose a definition of something that is clear, isn't prone to equivocation and lends itself to its usage in a test, we're making a scientific comparison and that's not subjective. On the other hand, you might use the word subjective to describe the fact that we take part actively into the process of building ideas, but then it would mean that your comment -- the little precision about the "best" being subjective -- is totally void as the meaning you would use here applies to every other thought; in short, you'd be saying that determining who's the best player is like any other thing and I do not see how it would add to the discussion. Anyway, you can measure who's the best players as far as a definition is provided (which you did: you said that it depends on the conditions in which he plays, that the most fitted is the best on that day). You can figure it out and the answer lies beyond opinion.

However, I hardly see how they would call cheating what you could interpret as a mistake. If they go and tell you that you didn't provide them with an optimal line-up, they cannot conclude it's cheating, even if it's clearly written that players must be ordered accordingly to their relative abilities (from the best player to the least potent one). For all we know, the same fact could be used to support a point made that you didn't evaluate them properly... hence, the conclusion doesn't follow and you're not guilty unless otherwise shown.


Most people are disgrace to this sport and the OP have seen a bunch of them once he has showed them how it's done!:)
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Sorry to interrupt the troll fest with a serious response, but in NJ, lineups are required to be set according to challenge matches, and coaches are required to have documentation of the date and scores of the challenge matches that led to the ranking on the team. Failure to provide or falsification of this information or setting a lineup inaccurately results in forfeits. So here, you actually can't evaluate who would be the "best" in current conditions and put that person at #1, but rather, you are required to set lineups according to documented challenge matches.
 
Stacking is NOT Cheating..............



Not the funniest of stories......I could lend you some tips on creative writing......I have classics everywhere.....


If this is the number #1 Team in the State.......and you guys are the Worst........I can't see a scenario where your Best guy beats their #3......or even their #5 in all likelyhood.....same as your #3 beating their #5

If they are that good......they sweep Singles no matter how you shuffle them.


Stacking is kind of bush league.....but I've been on both sides of the fence. No need to get mad and cry AFTER if backfires against you
 
J_R_B said:
In NJ high school tennis, it is. Here, tennis coaches are required to keep a record of challenge matches used to determine the singles ladder on the team and to set their lineup according to that ladder.
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We have not lined up according to strength in 25 yrs.
 
J_R_B said:
In NJ high school tennis, it is. Here, tennis coaches are required to keep a record of challenge matches used to determine the singles ladder on the team and to set their lineup according to that ladder.
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I was just saying that it's more of a Bush league tactic, than being illegal, per se. I mean......you try and win the match......and if your star player is out of town or what not....I dont see how you couldnt fiddle with the line up to give yourself a better chance at winning the back end courts
 
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At the high school level, I've coached in three states and have marveled at the differences between each in terms of how they run high school matches.

The best method that both eliminates stacking--and thus cheating--as well as provides a vehicle for players to improve, was the California system. This is where each singles player and each doubles team (three in each), played a round robin against each of the three opponents players or teams.

Stacking made no difference since all the players had to play the other three opponents, #'s 1, 2 and 3. Thus it didn't matter if you put your best player at number 3 or at #1. Same thing in doubles.

In terms of improvement, I saw how our players got to play three different opponents each match, thus having to adjust to different levels and strategies each match three times.

Also, weaker players got a chance to play against stronger teams opponents and stronger players got to work on playing weak opponents, a chance to work on specific parts of their game in the process.
 
Stacking is illegal and really a low point for any coach. It's deceitful and I understand why it's used.

Ttwarrior -- So many things you've written on the forums have been filled with fantasy. Although entertaining, I've added you to my block list.
 
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ttwarrior1 said:
im now at 298 , must be a miracle

stop eating bread and don't even crave it so not sure what happened.
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is that up or down?

not that it matters, you are the right kind of tennis player, you know damn well you won't ever be mistaken for a former pro but you play the game because you love it, not so you have sa place to wear your latest RF shirt..

more power to you
 
Dedans Penthouse said:
"I am the Walrus, coo-coo-ca-chew coo-coo-ca-chew"

320 pounds?? Sounds like you're as adept at STACKING PANCAKES as you are matches.

Even though "stacking" is a really low-rent move, fortunately this thread appears to be so implausible that it seems like all it's missing is an April 1st "start" date---you actually mean to say that not only was the opposing team crying, but "some of the PARENTS were CRYING" as well?!! And that cops, that is, POLICE OFFICERS, OFFICERS OF THE LAW actually stopped to watch YOUR match??! Now I could maybe see cops from the show "Animal Rescue 911" from the Animal Planet TV Network would want to check out your "Dancing Bear & Tennis Racquet" act, but the local fuzz??~! Nah! I don't think so....oh and to top it off, you supposedly came back from a 9-ZERO deficit to pull off a Poncho Gonzalez 24-22 type victory? Yep.

"Alex, I'd like Bullsh!t for 500 please."

Also, the "bratty millionaire kids" reference sounds too much like an Adam Sandler-wannabe (Happy Gilmore-esque) pipedream of sorts. Nice story, but it seems that all you forgot to include in this "believeable" story was to somehow have the "mousey" librarian morph into a sexy "swan" by removing her eyeglasses, shaking the French bun out of her hair while walking up to you and claiming that she's secretly admired you from afar, and that she's chosen this moment as the "right time" for her to stake her claim to you--her new hero--while the tennis team (and the entire student body who was at that match and who also suddenly think that you're THE coolest thing since Boar's Head Tatoos on a fat girl) invites you to their next "hush-hush" beer bash this Friday night down by the old train trestle. And of course the school principal is standing off in the distance begrudgingly smiling and shaking his head as if to say "boys will be boys" ...........UNTIL.........

........"Eddie......Eddie, wake up..........time to get up for school......"
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you had me LOLing in bed for ten minutes. great stuff.
do you have a blog or something?
 
What a story. Stacking is illegal in some leagues however, but I am not sure the rules of your league.

pretty awesome story nonetheless
 
ttwarrior1 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh3J02_UHnw


new vid of me serving to win a bet that i wouldn't make a vid
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Hey man, be careful, serving like that will likely lead to a shoulder injury.
It almost happened to me last year.

Toss the ball higher, and try to tilt the shoulders (bring left down, raise right shoulder up) to hit the ball higher.
I know, it's not easy, but better than busting a tendon in your shoulder.
 
Vlad_C said:
Hey man, be careful, serving like that will likely lead to a shoulder injury.
It almost happened to me last year.

Toss the ball higher, and try to tilt the shoulders (bring left down, raise right shoulder up) to hit the ball higher.
I know, it's not easy, but better than busting a tendon in your shoulder.
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He has tendons of steel from lifting slow. LOL.
 
lightthestorm said:
I love this. This is the strategy that every bad high school team uses to try to beat better teams... Stack.
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High schools in some districts have to publish rankings of all players on the team at the beginning of the season and must play in order of strength according to the published rankings. They are allowed to change rankings of the players during the season but must publish changes and inform all teams. This seems to have largely taken care of stacking.
 
I've only played in league matches with two doubles pairs per team, so I don't really get why everyone has such a problem with this 'stacking' thing.

Surely if the players are allowed to play within the league they should be allowed to play in whichever positions they want, after all how can people get a chance to prove themselves if they aren't allowed to play proper matches. Anyone who is that much better or worse than the average is clearly in the wrong league, and any matches between players in the same category should be fair game.

If a club/college has various teams in different leagues, and they get their best first team players to sandbag into the lower league for the first few matches to get easy wins, it is cheating. But if a player is legitimately on a team, then they should be allowed to play whatever matches that team has.
 
goober said:
High schools in some districts have to publish rankings of all players on the team at the beginning of the season and must play in order of strength according to the published rankings. They are allowed to change rankings of the players during the season but must publish changes and inform all teams. This seems to have largely taken care of stacking.
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In NJ, it goes even further. Singles spots have to be determined by challenge matches, and the challenge matches must be documented by date and score and submitted to the NJSIAA. Deviation from the filed ladder determined through challenge matches is only allowed if a singles player gets hurt short-term (like for 1 or 2 matches), and you can bypass guys who are regular doubles players for lower ranked singels players as a replacement so that you don't disrupt your doubles teams. If the injury is long-term, then you have to use the next guy on the ladder and screw with your doubles as well.

GoudX said:
I've only played in league matches with two doubles pairs per team, so I don't really get why everyone has such a problem with this 'stacking' thing.

Surely if the players are allowed to play within the league they should be allowed to play in whichever positions they want, after all how can people get a chance to prove themselves if they aren't allowed to play proper matches. Anyone who is that much better or worse than the average is clearly in the wrong league, and any matches between players in the same category should be fair game.

If a club/college has various teams in different leagues, and they get their best first team players to sandbag into the lower league for the first few matches to get easy wins, it is cheating. But if a player is legitimately on a team, then they should be allowed to play whatever matches that team has.
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This is allowed in adult leagues and to a certain extent in college. In the USTA leagues, anyone on the roster can play in any spot in the lineup. It's generally not allowed in high school tennis.
 
officerdibble said:
I'm not sure it's unplayable: a good player would be standing three feet inside the baseline to return your serve, otherwise they would be hitting it around their ankles every time.
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In all fairness, the serves look to be going 90-100 mph. They also seem to be hit with backspin since he's using a frying pan grip and pulling down on the ball. That's probably why the balls aren't bouncing that high though I can't imagine he has a good first serve percentage nor that his second serves are anywhere close to that fast.
 
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