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The answer in the real world is Fedal.
Interesting... Can I see raw data about subject...It is the surface 90% of players concentrate on...
Maybe in the past, but since 2014 not so much.Nadal vs Djokovic, no doubt. The titans. Big 2.
You know there’s no raw data. Seems about right though. There are still some dudes who depend on their yearly clay points to hang around on tour, but not too many, and there’s probably not a single grass concentrator.Interesting... Can I see raw data about subject...
Who cares about since 2014? We’re talking about a rivalry, not an isolated series of matches. And in the last 2 years Nadal vs Djokovic is still the biggest thing on the scene, even if it’s now more about achievement race rather than actual H2H.Maybe in the past, but since 2014 not so much.
Well if there is no data I will tell you I disagree...You know there’s no raw data. Seems about right though. There are still some dudes who depend on their yearly clay points to hang around on tour, but not too many, and there’s probably not a single grass concentrator.
Djokodal it is.Vote
Of course you will.Well if there is no data I will tell you I disagree...
In that case Fred-Ned is still the biggest rivalry.Who cares about since 2014? We’re talking about a rivalry, not an isolated series of matches. And in the last 2 years Nadal vs Djokovic is still the biggest thing on the scene, even if it’s now more about achievement race rather than actual H2H.
What makes it "better"? Just because the h2h is closer? The results were one-way traffic in different time periods and 35/55 of their matches have been in straight sets.Djokovic - Nadal is better
Federer - Nadal is greater
One-way traffic? You defend Fedal "rivalry" using this term?What makes it "better"? Just because the h2h is closer? The results were one-way traffic in different time periods and 35/55 of their matches have been in straight sets.
In 2017 – definitely. Not since early 2018 though.In that case Fred-Ned is still the biggest rivalry.
Pretty much, yeah. A more even match-up is a better rivalry in my mind. It's that simple. Although ideally they would have the contrast in styles that Fedal has (and like Borg-McEnroe or Pete-Andre).What makes it "better"? Just because the h2h is closer? The results were one-way traffic in different time periods and 35/55 of their matches have been in straight sets.
Was/is it really even though? Before 2011 it went RAFA's way, 2011-2012 Novak's, (2012-)2013 RAFA again, 2014-onward Novak againPretty much, yeah. A more even match-up is a better rivalry in my mind. It's that simple. Although ideally they would have the contrast in styles that Fedal has (and like Borg-McEnroe or Pete-Andre).
Federer-Nadal is a "greater" rivalry though because of how it captured the sports world. Nothing in the Djokodal rivalry ever felt quite like 2006-2008 Fedal did. And long since then they're still the biggest draw in tennis.
Look at your signature and tell me Nadal isn't still competing with Federer (who just last year was within a hair of making it 21)In 2017 – definitely. Not since early 2018 though.
That's even enough for me. I don't need them to split matches 2-2 every season. Flip-flopping who has better seasons is fine.Was/is it really even though? Before 2011 it went RAFA's way, 2011-2012 Novak's, (2012-)2013 RAFA again, 2014-onward Novak again
Bleh.That's even enough for me. I don't need them to split matches 2-2 every season. Flip-flopping who has better seasons is fine.
Evert - Navratilova
And that’s what the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry has been. Seven straight matches won on two different occasions? Really?I know op gave that option, but we are talking about rivalry, not one player destroying other most of times...
That’s a bit high compared to his usual.You get a B- for trolling skills today
And that’s what the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry has been. Seven straight matches won on two different occasions? Really?
The OP asked for the greatest rivalry in tennis history. History encompasses "a long time ago.," which should really go without saying. Using this logic, Laver-Rosewall (an incredible rivalry) shouldn't be in the mix because they played decades ago, which doesn't make sense.It is probably Borg McEnroe since tennis was a superstar thing back then. We are talking Lady Diana fandom. But that is long time ago now and belongs to former pro player section.
Kings the fact that this even took place should tell you all you need to know.
The OP asked for the greatest rivalry in tennis history. History encompasses "a long time ago.," which should really go without saying. Using this logic, Laver-Rosewall (an incredible rivalry) shouldn't be in the mix because they played decades ago, which doesn't make sense.
You're certainly correct that the Borg-McEnroe rivalry was hugely more famous and celebrated than any rivalry of today. When the only tennis televised then were the semis and finals of majors and a few events, both of them transcended the sport when they played.
Federer/Nadal is bigger than Borg/McEnroe. Tennis is even more of a global sport today, and penetrates far more countries today than in the heyday of Borg/McEnroe (Federer and Nadal have far more pull in say China, than players from previous generations). Maybe Borg/McEnroe feels bigger to soms because it may have been more impactful in western media countries like UK and USA.
Nadal/Federer most definitely transcended tennis. Sports fans who didn't care about tennis in any other context, who stop to watch a Federer/Nadal grand slam match.In this day and age, where tennis competes with so many other things for attention, it cannot be underestimated how much the Federer/Nadal rivalry has carried the sport of tennis.
Um no. Federer and Nadal have not transcended tennis in way more impactful than Borg and McEnroe. None of the big 3 have. The popularity of the sport during their era was off the charts and so were the ratings. They carried the sport? Do they pull the highest ratings over everyone else wherever they play? Not even close. Let's see if 40 years from now people still care so much about Federer and Nadal to make a movie about them like Borg and McEnroe.
The 2017 Australian Open final between Nadal and Federer drew massive ratings around the world. On ESPN in America, it did over 80% better in viewing numbers than the previous year's Australian Open final between Djokovic and Murray. It was the most watched ESPN telecast in that time slot in the history of the channel. That match broke viewing records because people thought it might be the last time Federer and Nadal played in a match of that magnitude.
Australian Open finals pull in massive ratings all over the world | Tennis.com
On ESPN, the men's final saw an 80 percent viewership increawww.tennis.com
The Borg/McEnroe was a cheap, low budget movie funded independently in Europe that nobody watched. Let's not get carried away like it was some big budget Hollywood production that had serious backing behind it. I can easily imagine one day Federer/Nadal movie being made with a real budget behind it.
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I'm gonna go cry somewhere.
I’m not sure how many would be willing to agree with you.Murray Djokovic is better tjan most on the list
Kings the fact that this even took place should tell you all you need to know.