Greatest Volleyers of All Time

D

DMP

Professional
Given the difficulty of volleying with, and against, modern rackets and surfaces, I am going to put my girl Mauresmo up there.
 
D

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Olli Jokinen said:
Forgot about this. Graphite and carbon are non-metals, Mr Lobb. You cannot classify a graphite racket as a metal racket, when it does not contain metal. You, however are free to believe what you want, just as Donald Trump is entitled to have his own opinion about the recent election results. http://www.ssc.education.ed.ac.uk/bsl/chemistry/graphited.html
Click to expand...
Metals include carbon as a component, you cannot have steel without carbon.
Graphite is classified as a semi-metal or even as a metal....I advise you to check that out.
The recent election results provide a responsible senate, fortunately.
 
G

goldenera

Semi-Pro
The Hoodjem list is perfect...considering it is an only male list.
I just mentioned some good not yet great champions who at their time were considered great net men like Brian and Ross
Stolle and Fraser could volley as well...I never considered Tanner a top volleyer,he was not consistent just like Kriek..could be flashy once then miss two or three easy putaways
 
Olli Jokinen

Olli Jokinen

Hall of Fame
Dan Lobb said:
Metals include carbon as a component, you cannot have steel without carbon.
Graphite is classified as a semi-metal or even as a metal....I advise you to check that out.
The recent election results provide a responsible senate, fortunately.
Click to expand...

No, graphite pretty much seems to be classified as non-metal. But fine, so since spinach has iron in it, iron can be considered a vegetable?
 
D

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Olli Jokinen said:
No, graphite pretty much seems to be classified as non-metal. But fine, so since spinach has iron in it, iron can be considered a vegetable?
Click to expand...
There are many references to graphite as a near-metal or "metallic" substance. Here is an example,

investorintel.com

Graphite: what every resource investor needs to know

European Union & United States have named graphite as a critical mineral. Demand for high-purity natural graphite will outpace supply.
investorintel.com investorintel.com
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
hoodjem said:
Tier-one: McEnroe, Edberg, Rosewall, Sedgman, Roche, Laver, Emerson.

Tier-two: Segura, Hoad, Newcombe, Panatta, Rafter, Cash, Kramer, Gonzales.

Tier-three: Ashe, Lutz, Gerulaitis, Sampras, Nastase, Pecci, Borotra, Cochet, Henman, Patty, Fraser.

Tier-four: Llodra, Becker, Krajicek, Stich, Perry, Ramirez, Gottfried, Kriek, McLaughlin, Trabert, McGregor, Fraser, Stolle.


Present: Nalbandian, Tsonga, Federer, Mahut, Fish, Ancic, Marc Lopez, Llodra, Nadal.
Click to expand...
Latest edition?
 
Olli Jokinen

Olli Jokinen

Hall of Fame
Dan Lobb said:
Your research was deficient....graphite is classified as a semi-metal, as I pointed out to you above.

en.wikipedia.org

Semimetal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
Click to expand...

Wow, a wikipedia-article. You will easily find articles that describe why graphite is not metal. Never heard of a "semi-metal racket", because semi-metal is not metal. I cannot comprehend why you insist on being so stubborn. Graphite is carbon that conducts well (the only non-metal that does so), and carbon is placed in the periodic table as a non-metal.

The original point is that no one except you would ever call a graphite racket a metal racket.
 
Olli Jokinen

Olli Jokinen

Hall of Fame
goldenera said:
Much much before than you and most important,I contributed to it..plesse,do likewise
Volleys
No chemistry
Click to expand...

Listen, you recently contributed with this gem: "Still thinling Wilander is right up there?" This is pointing to another thread, and I never said Wilander was a top class volleyer. Please try to debate instead of acting like a troll.
 
D

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Olli Jokinen said:
Wow, a wikipedia-article. You will easily find articles that describe why graphite is not metal. Never heard of a "semi-metal racket", because semi-metal is not metal. I cannot comprehend why you insist on being so stubborn. Graphite is carbon that conducts well (the only non-metal that does so), and carbon is placed in the periodic table as a non-metal.

The original point is that no one except you would ever call a graphite racket a metal racket.
Click to expand...
You have trouble reading the reference? I guess...

Wikipedia is not disqualified as a source.

"Semi-metal" is a technical term in wide usage. Live with it.
 
NicoMK

NicoMK

Hall of Fame
hoodjem said:
Resurrected for relevance.
(I just saw a thread in the General Player forum that suggested Nadal is a GOAT volleyer. :oops:)
Click to expand...
ahahah

Nadal is the GOAT clay-court player, if you're considering his RG titles. I would say that Borg was also the GOAT clay-court player but History will remember that he "only" won 6 RG (and a total of 11 GS).
One of the GOATs, probably
One of the GOAT baseliners, certainly.

But a GOAT volleyer… lol. Nadal is probably a good volleyer in the 2020s though. That puts things into perspective.

None of the players in the 2020s knows to hit a proper volley, that's a well-known story now.
 
Last edited:
NicoMK

NicoMK

Hall of Fame
goldenera said:
Why such GOAT histeria
Conditions are so much different nobody will be able to compare
Click to expand...
I agree with the GOAT hysteria. But it exists only inside the Federer-Nadal-Djokovik sphere, that's to say themselves first and then their camps and their fans (maybe the craziest of all about who's the GOAT and who's not lol).

At least for me and my post above, it was just a humorous way of speaking. If you prefer, I think that Nadal is a good volleyer but not a great volleyer.
 
G

goldenera

Semi-Pro
NicoMK said:
I agree with the GOAT hysteria. But it exists only inside the Federer-Nadal-Djokovik sphere, that's to say themselves first and then their camps and their fans (maybe the craziest of all about who's the GOAT and who's not lol).

At least for me and my post above, it was just a humorous way of speaking. If you prefer, I think that Nadal is a good volleyer but not a great volleyer.
Click to expand...
Not bad boy...when the field is weak someone looking smart makes a difference
 
WestboroChe

WestboroChe

Hall of Fame
NicoMK said:
ahahah

Nadal is the GOAT clay-court player, if you're considering his RG titles. I would say that Borg was also the GOAT clay-court player but History will remember that he "only" won 6 RG (and a total of 11 GS).
One of the GOATs, probably
One of the GOAT baseliners, certainly.

But a GOAT volleyer… lol. Nadal is probably a good volleyer in the 2020s though. That puts things into perspective.

None of the players in the 2020s knows to hit a proper volley, that's a well-known story now.
Click to expand...
Ha ha. It’s much easier to be a good volleyer when you only come in for easy putaways.

Nadal is decent volleyer. I can’t help but wonder how he would have faired on the grass before they turned it to fast clay court.
 
D

Deleted member 771911

Guest
For players since I've followed tennis. Edberg.
All time, I can't say.
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Tier-one: McEnroe, Edberg, Rosewall, Sedgman, Roche, Laver, Emerson.

Tier-two: Segura, Hoad, Newcombe, Panatta, Rafter, Cash, Kramer, Gonzales.

Tier-three: Ashe, Lutz, Gerulaitis, Sampras, Nastase, Pecci, Borotra, Cochet, Henman, Patty, Fraser.

Tier-four: Llodra, Becker, Krajicek, Stich, Perry, Ramirez, Gottfried, McLaughlin, Trabert, McGregor, Fraser, Stolle.
 
skaj

skaj

Legend
hoodjem said:
Tier-one: McEnroe, Edberg, Rosewall, Sedgman, Roche, Laver, Emerson.

Tier-two: Segura, Hoad, Newcombe, Panatta, Rafter, Cash, Kramer, Gonzales.

Tier-three: Ashe, Lutz, Gerulaitis, Sampras, Nastase, Pecci, Borotra, Cochet, Henman, Patty, Fraser.

Tier-four: Llodra, Becker, Krajicek, Stich, Perry, Ramirez, Gottfried, McLaughlin, Trabert, McGregor, Fraser, Stolle.
Click to expand...

Some players are missing and most of them are women. The absence of Navratilova is obvious, she should be in Tier-one. Other WTA players belong to one of the lists too, Novotna, Mandlikova, maybe King, Goolagong. Also, I would put Amritraj, Pioline, Stepanek in Tier-four.
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
skaj said:
Some players are missing and most of them are women. The absence of Navratilova is obvious, she should be in Tier-one. Other WTA players belong to one of the lists too, Novotna, Mandlikova, maybe King, Goolagong. Also, I would put Amritraj, Pioline, Stepanek in Tier-four.
Click to expand...
True. Alright, let's add them.
Navratilova to Tier-one. King there also?
Do you have suggestions on the others?
 
Last edited:
hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Tier-one: McEnroe, Edberg, Rosewall, Sedgman, Roche, Laver, Emerson, Newcombe, Navratilova, Lenglen, Marble, Gibson, Bueno,

Tier-two: Richards, Borotra, Segura, Hoad, McMillan, Panatta, Rafter, Cash, Kramer, Gonzales, King, Goolagong, Wade.

Tier-three: Patty, Fraser, Lutz, Smith, Gerulaitis, Sampras, Pecci, Borotra, Cochet, Henman, Novotna.

Tier-four: Perry, Trabert, McGregor, Fraser, Stolle, Ashe, Nastase, Llodra, Becker, Krajicek, Stich, Ramirez, Gottfried, McLaughlin, Amitraj, Pioline.
 
Last edited:
U

urban

Legend
Lenglen, Marble, Gibson, Bueno on the womens side, all tier one. From what i have seen, King and Virginia Wade had very fine volleys, also Novotna. Vincent Richards was with Borotra the best before WW II. From what i have seen, Newcombe clearly tier one, especially his forehand volley. Ashe had a weak forehand volley, Nastase lacked penetration on the volley, Smith was better on the volley. McMillan had fine volleys as a doubles player.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

hoodjem
GOAT Serve-AND-Volleyers
4 5 6
Replies
263
Views
14K
hoodjem
hoodjem
hoodjem
Greatest Men's Doubles Team?
Replies
40
Views
8K
goldenera
G
joe sch
  • Poll
Greatest Group of all Time (GGOAT) ?
Replies
19
Views
3K
Andres
Andres
M
Greatest Strokes of All Time - new book
2 3 4
Replies
173
Views
25K
Dan Lobb
D
K
Federer's 10 defeated opponents
2 3
Replies
123
Views
10K
abmk
abmk
Top