Grip Shapes & Pallets etc.. How The Brands Differ & Effect Our Games..

danbrenner

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so i wanted to start a new thread with this discussion in mind. i have long been a rakaholic, and grip shape and feel has long been an issue for me.

for example. i have been using the PD 21 since its inception as my main stick. the grip really just feels like near perfection for me. but i do crave other looks at other frames especially being a holic. so within the babolat family i have bought pure strikes. .and pure aeros. but the problem is that the pallets are all different.. slightly of course. but different. even the pd98 is different to the pd21. and yes. i use the same base grips. usually syntec team. on all my frames. so i have the science down. its not a case of different base grips. so now. the aero. is slightly more rounded than the pd 21. this is actually the worse feeling one for me. and that actually really stung the most. becuase lets face it , alcaraz has cemented this line as the coolest frame in the world. so i really wanted to be able to use.it. i tried every base grip known to man to try to get on with it. (syntec pro, syntec feel, hrdrosorb pro, leather, wilsonfeather thin. and nothing worked. ). the strike is pretty square feeling i like it. just not as much as the pd21. and the pd98 is slightly more rectangular feeling than the pd21. so each frame has a slightly diff pallet. so not only when trying out a new frame are you just trying out the frame. you are also trying out a new grip shape. this is because these frames are molded. and they must use a completely diff assembly line /mold for each frame .. that is the case for most sticks. the only one i know that doesnt do this is Head. they use a swap able pallet system. which on balance when i think about it, is the best way. this way when you are trying out new frames, its just that , a new frame. but the feel you are used to like with the TK82 i believe is what they use on current frame, is the same feel on the grip along any of their frames. so you can really just concentrate on the frame itself and not get thrown off from nuances from each pallet shape difference. i dont know if any other brands use the swap able pallet system. i dont think so though.
anyway. so as you can see . this diff in grip shapes is a real thing. and for the reason i stated above about head having the same exact pallets on all their frames. i am going to start concentrating more on their frames. i always have the PD21 as my main anyway. but ive realized that its really only that frame in which i love the pallet shape. so i can always stick with the pd standard. but as far as holiking i will put more stock into the head frames from now on.

please chime in with your experiences and thoughts.
 
I have played with many grip shapes, squarish (Babolat, Prince, Wilson, Dunlop) and rectangular (Head, ProKennex). I do have my preferences but I haven't found it difficult to adjust from one frame to another. For sure it takes some time to adjust but mainly it is a psychological thing I believe. Especially for Babolat, I haven't swung any of their sticks since 2013 but maybe you are overthinking it?
 
I have played with many grip shapes, squarish (Babolat, Prince, Wilson, Dunlop) and rectangular (Head, ProKennex). I do have my preferences but I haven't found it difficult to adjust from one frame to another. For sure it takes some time to adjust but mainly it is a psychological thing I believe. Especially for Babolat, I haven't swung any of their sticks since 2013 but maybe you are overthinking it?
absolutely not. the modern game.. using a sw forehand. and a pretty pronated service grip. i can really feel the nuances of each pallet. as tennis players. we need to be comfortable with our equipment. and the grip is the only part of the stick we are holding. or shaking hands with so to speak. so no. we need to be at one with our sticks. and the grip is the numero uno point of contact.
 
Paging our resident Head expert. @dr325i . am i correct in the assumption that all the heads are being made with the exact same pallet. the tk82 in which that makes Head the only company with the exact same pallets across all lines. which makes for a more consistent feel??
Latest generations of all retail Head rackets (except special edition like PT2.0 (TK82)) come with the TK82S pallets.
 
@danbrenner , Volkl uses pallets on their frames if the frame does not have a suspension system. Problem with Volkl is they have 3(?) types of shapes.
Lol. I’m done with Volkl. But good call. I really am sold on the head one pallet system. It’s the smartest approach to guarantee the same grip every time. So for that reason alone I’m going head this way forward. Just makes more sense to me. And I’m living my speed mp. So I’ll start grooving with that one. That being said my PD still hasn’t been knocked off the pedestal yet. So let’s see. Prince also make phenomenal frames. But they are molded as well. So you’re gonna get the variations etc.
 
@danbrenner, you can check the Will It Pallet Thread; @Hankenstein and @moon shot have tried replacing pallets. Volkl pallets do fit Babolat hairpins. I know this is more stuff than you may want since you need to remove foam from Bab handle.
I’m done with that level of insanity. It would actually make more sense to me to spend the money one time and get a custom-made pallet. But I’m not gonna do that so again, it just makes more sense to me to go. with head from here on in. They have the smartest method amd what I believe should be an industry standard. USE ONE UNICERSAL PALLET ACROSS ALL LINES. This way you could literally go from a Gravity to a radical to a speed and really enjoy the differences in the frames while enjoying the exact same feel of the grip. That’s the only way to fly.
 
Oh yes you are very right about the difference within Babolat. I can't speak for pure drive, but pure aero is very elliptical and pure strike is more square.
 
You can buy the specific head pallet you want (tk82 or tk82s) for like $10 and install them yourself or have a shop do it. If you do it yourself it's pretty cheap and sounds like your best option
 
A small observation from years of changing pallets on head-frames.
If you install a modern TK82 or TK82S pallet on an older head-frame (made in austria), the gap between the pallets are pretty big. It seems the modern pallets are somewhat smaller then the older pallets and a TK82S for example gets a very square shape. When I install a 82S pallet on an older head frame i use some white sports tape at the the the sides of the pallet (think 3 and 9 when the frame is against the table). Just 1 or 2 strips of tape makes it feel way better. You can even use a TK82 pallet as it will feel more like a 82S installed on a modern frame
 
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