I haven't look at the other replies but here goes:
No, I am not. I have posted vids of myself before.Seeing the second clip, I say 5.0+.
OP: Are you in this clip? Or the camera man?? Because after you posted the link to the second vid clip, I saw that there were 0 views...meaning that you probably uploaded that clip to youtube, so are you one of the tennis players in those two clips??
LOL, I'm glad you notice. That's exactly what I was trying to do.3.5 max, and I didn't even hafta look at the video.;-)
Kidding. 5.0's. Just a guess, though. Too hard to tell. I'm guessing they are less erratic without a camera on? THe returner seems jittery against a guy with not that big a serve. Maybe he was just hard to read.
BTW, I love that little miniature Stonehenge thing the cameraman was focusing on. I know Jolly's calling that an amateur move, but I think the guy was going for an artsy French vibe there.
They are good players. The server had a great serve with a lot of kick that would give many 4.5's fits. I would say they are in the 5.0 area. As far as competition, they could very well compete in a 4.5 level with players playing down, or local open tourny's with players not playing down.
I know that this doesn't carry much weight in the TW world, but I have never met, played against, or seen a player who had volleys like that who didn't have a good enough ground game to get the job done.ok, maybe not... but still id probably give em 5+, wish i coulda seen more groundstrokes tho
i get the impression that you were thinking i was meaning that he couldnt hit off the ground, thats why he went to the net. thats not what i meant at all, i woulda just liked to see some groundstrokes, lol, honestly i think watching S&V is the boringest thing ever, but i could tell by his approach shots and volleys that he was a ballerI know that this doesn't carry much weight in the TW world, but I have never met, played against, or seen a player who had volleys like that who didn't have a good enough ground game to get the job done.
Sure, they aren't world beaters off the ground, but every single high level SV player had enough of a ground game to keep them in points until they could get to the net.
Let’s let the facts speak:Love the video btw.. but here's a question for folks... do you believe fresh compeitive college players ( like top fifteen schools) can take on these pros? Because in today's game, its all about the big shots... think these pros' can physically handle it?
Mark Keil too casual with his footwork!?!?!?!?!?!?! No wayyy!;-)They are good players. The server had a great serve with a lot of kick that would give many 4.5's fits. I would say they are in the 5.0 area. As far as competition, they could very well compete in a 4.5 level with players playing down, or local open tourny's with players not playing down.
The main drawback of the server was that he was a bit to casual in his footwork. However, what I don't know is how long they have been playing.
With volleys and serves like that, they have good looking educated strokes.
Keil was here playing a tourney that I usually play in every year but I haven't played recently due to a nagging shoulder injury so I figured I would go and get some footage since I wasn't playing. Ryan Stotland however used to attend the Univ. of New Mexico where he played at the #1 and #2 spot. Ryan ended up winning the match as well as the tournament. He's been playing futures and challengers and has had some pretty good results in the doubles events (I think he's won a few). He's got a big time serve and volley game. Huge serve in the 120's and nice crisp volleys to follow. I wanted to get footage of the guy who I thought was going to win and has won this event several times just so I could post it and watch people rate him at a 4.0. Keil also has a throwback serve and volley game. Not a huge serve but it had enough action on it to give people problems. He looks like he's in pretty darn good shape and lost a lot of weight. In fact the match he played against Ryan would have been closer had he not played a lengthy nail biter in the previous round a few hours earlier against yet another very good ex UNM player.Mark Keil too casual with his footwork!?!?!?!?!?!?! No wayyy!;-)
BB nailed it.
Edberg505, well done. Great thread.
I thought I recognized Keil. Darker hair than I remembered, but....well, same hard-to-read-but-not-that-huge serve as he had in college.
Is he coaching Ryan? OR were they just hitting?
DO they live in NM?