H2H records of the Open Era greats

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Here are all the H2H records between the Open Era greats (defined as players winning 6+ slams in the Open Era), who played each other at least 10 times:

Becker - McEnroe 8:2 (80% for Becker)
Federer - Agassi 8:3 (73% for Federer)
Becker - Edberg 25:10 (71% for Becker)
Agassi - Becker 10:4 (71% for Agassi)
Nadal - Federer 23:10 (70% for Nadal)
Becker - Wilander 7:3 (70% for Becker)
Lendl - Wilander 15:7 (68% for Lendl)
Borg - Connors 15:8 (65% for Borg)
Lendl - Connors 22:13 (63% for Lendl)
Sampras - Becker 12:7 (63% for Sampras)
McEnroe - Connors 20:14 (59% for McEnroe)
Sampras - Agassi 20:14 (59% for Sampras)
Lendl - McEnroe 21:15 (58% for Lendl)
Sampras - Edberg 8:6 (57% for Sampras)
Nadal - Djokovic 22:18 (55% for Nadal)
Wilander - Edberg 11:9 (55% for Wilander)
McEnroe - Edberg 7:6 (54% for McEnroe)
McEnroe - Wilander 7:6 (54% for McEnroe)
Federer - Djokovic 18:16 (53% for Federer)
Edberg - Lendl 14:13 (52% for Edberg)
Lendl - Becker 11:10 (52% for Lendl)
Borg - McEnroe 7:7 (tied)
Connors - Edberg 6:6 (tied)

Interesting stats.

- Becker owned most of his main rivals, but strangely, Agassi owned him.
- Sampras finished ahead of all his rivals but not by much.
- Becker-Edberg is heavily biased in Becker's favour, but Edberg had a 2-1 lead against Becker in slam finals.
- Connors' stats are negatively impacted by him playing on long past his prime.
 
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pc1

G.O.A.T.
Here are all the H2H records between the Open Era greats (defined as players winning 6+ slams in the Open Era), who played each other at least 10 times:

Becker - McEnroe 8:2 (80% for Becker)
Becker - Edberg 25:10 (71% for Becker)
Agassi - Becker 10:4 (71% for Agassi)
Nadal - Federer 23:10 (70% for Nadal)
Becker - Wilander 7:3 (70% for Becker)
Lendl - Wilander 15:7 (68% for Lendl)
Borg - Connors 15:8 (65% for Borg)
Lendl - Connors 22:13 (63% for Lendl)
Sampras - Becker 12:7 (63% for Sampras)
McEnroe - Connors 20:14 (59% for McEnroe)
Sampras - Agassi 20:14 (59% for Sampras)
Lendl - McEnroe 21:15 (58% for Lendl)
Sampras - Edberg 8:6 (57% for Sampras)
Nadal - Djokovic 22:18 (55% for Nadal)
Wilander - Edberg 11:9 (55% for Wilander)
McEnroe - Edberg 7:6 (54% for McEnroe)
McEnroe - Wilander 7:6 (54% for McEnroe)
Federer - Djokovic 18:16 (53% for Federer)
Edberg - Lendl 14:13 (52% for Edberg)
Lendl - Becker 11:10 (52% for Lendl)
Borg - McEnroe 7:7 (tied)
Connors - Edberg 6:6 (tied)

Interesting stats.

- Becker owned most of his main rivals, but strangely, Agassi owned him.
- Sampras finished ahead of all his rivals but not by much.
- Becker-Edberg is heavily biased in Becker's favour, but Edberg had a 2-1 lead against Becker in slam finals.
- Connors' stats are negatively impacted by him playing on long past his prime.

Nice information and an excellent conclusion about Connors.

I wonder if the "tell" with Agassi knowing what Becker would do if he stuck his tongue out when he served helped Agassi that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suXcaC61gRk
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Nice information and an excellent conclusion about Connors.

I wonder if the "tell" with Agassi knowing what Becker would do if he stuck his tongue out when he served helped Agassi that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suXcaC61gRk

Ah yes, I never knew whether Agassi was serious about that or not.

Whatever it was though, Agassi had an excellent record against even the very best S&V players (other than Sampras, of course, but even there he wasn't humiliated).

By the way I edited my first post to include the Federer-Agassi H2H, which I originally forgot. :)
 

kiki

Banned
Yes, Becker was really impressive.But Mac and Connors were not among his big opponents.Wilander,Lendl,Edberg and later on Agassi and Sampras.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Notice how Nadal and Sampras own their main rivals. Federer, not so much.

How do you define 'own'?

Because I wouldn't say Nadal owns Djokovic with a 55% win record.

Sampras is between 63% and 57% against Agassi/Edberg/Becker, not sure this is ownership either, but he does have a positive record against them all.
 

timnz

Legend
Take out age as a factor

Here are all the H2H records between the Open Era greats (defined as players winning 6+ slams in the Open Era), who played each other at least 10 times:

Becker - McEnroe 8:2 (80% for Becker)
Federer - Agassi 8:3 (73% for Federer)
Becker - Edberg 25:10 (71% for Becker)
Agassi - Becker 10:4 (71% for Agassi)
Nadal - Federer 23:10 (70% for Nadal)
Becker - Wilander 7:3 (70% for Becker)
Lendl - Wilander 15:7 (68% for Lendl)
Borg - Connors 15:8 (65% for Borg)
Lendl - Connors 22:13 (63% for Lendl)
Sampras - Becker 12:7 (63% for Sampras)
McEnroe - Connors 20:14 (59% for McEnroe)
Sampras - Agassi 20:14 (59% for Sampras)
Lendl - McEnroe 21:15 (58% for Lendl)
Sampras - Edberg 8:6 (57% for Sampras)
Nadal - Djokovic 22:18 (55% for Nadal)
Wilander - Edberg 11:9 (55% for Wilander)
McEnroe - Edberg 7:6 (54% for McEnroe)
McEnroe - Wilander 7:6 (54% for McEnroe)
Federer - Djokovic 18:16 (53% for Federer)
Edberg - Lendl 14:13 (52% for Edberg)
Lendl - Becker 11:10 (52% for Lendl)
Borg - McEnroe 7:7 (tied)
Connors - Edberg 6:6 (tied)

Interesting stats.

- Becker owned most of his main rivals, but strangely, Agassi owned him.
- Sampras finished ahead of all his rivals but not by much.
- Becker-Edberg is heavily biased in Becker's favour, but Edberg had a 2-1 lead against Becker in slam finals.
- Connors' stats are negatively impacted by him playing on long past his prime.

Interesting list. However age is too much of a factor for most of these H2H. One way it could be tackled is to only count H2H match where players prime years intersect. One could define prime years of great players as starting the year they first won a season end finals or made a major final to the last year they achieved either of those. So therefore Connors prime years were from 1974 to 1984 and Lendl's prime years were from 1981 to 1991. The intersecting years were therefore 1981 to 1984. After all, what you want is a measure of one player against another...which is about their skill playing another...not about their age. If you look at 1981 to 1984 between Lendl and Connors they are very close...which is probably a more accurate reading between their strengths.

Regarding Becker Edberg ...their slam finals don't erase Beckers advantage. Why not include their other important best of 5 set matches like Davis cup, Wct finals and Wtf finals? The picture looks different then.
 
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kiki

Banned
Rosewall/Laver/Newcombe are not pure Open Era greats, they spanned both pre- and post-1968.

Nastase, I don't consider him an undisputed great. He won only 2 slams.

4 Masters, 2 Italians and the best player in 72/73

You didn´t watch him, did you?
 

eldanger25

Hall of Fame
Interesting list. However age is too much of a factor for most of these H2H. One way it could be tackled is to only count H2H match where players prime years intersect. One could define prime years of great players as starting the year they first won a season end finals or made a major final to the last year they achieved either of those. So therefore Connors prime years were from 1974 to 1984 and Lendl's prime years were from 1981 to 1991. The intersecting years were therefore 1981 to 1984. After all, what you want is a measure of one player against another...which is about their skill playing another...not about their age. If you look at 1981 to 1984 between Lendl and Connors they are very close...which is probably a more accurate reading between their strengths.

I agree with this, nice points.
 
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