Halep testing Blades

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame



Here's the pic of Svitolina with Blade pj in France. Really makes me wonder if they are in fact going to discontinue the Burn as it is currently, if they have all players who endorsed it switch pjs (compared to an older frame, it appears to be that case with Elina, although the upper pic looks like she's not using 4G any more hm...). Would hate that, cause I would have to buy a few frames before they are gone :(
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little
 

NuBas

Legend
Why did they create another line, now there's like 5 lines and I don't even know what differentiates them other than colors. Could this be the start of them going a totally different direction with their racquets? That wouldn't be good.
 

FedLIKEnot

Professional
Why did they create another line, now there's like 5 lines and I don't even know what differentiates them other than colors. Could this be the start of them going a totally different direction with their racquets? That wouldn't be good.
I think what the point of the new line is to replace the Burn line in the powerful tweener market. The issue was with the Burn and its Babolat 2nd cousins is they are extremely stiff so that power does come at a steep trade off. Whereas the Clash is said to be powerful but soft and comfy with some saying a RA in the 40s.

The Burn line now will purely be a budget friendly spin effect line pre strung going forward. So I sort of see it as the modern play enhancement type racquet. To that effect the lines now make sense.

Those who had Burn PJs weren’t using actual Burns minus Kei but even his actual racquet still differed from current variation for consumption. So those players need to be dispersed to current lines. They don’t need a pro sponsorship of a skill enhancement racquet after all.

Anyways my take on what they are doing with their lines based on Instagram posts and the threads in here.

Oh and Halep who I love her play style isn’t using a Blade she’ll be using the same racquet she’s been using all along.
 

NuBas

Legend
I think what the point of the new line is to replace the Burn line in the powerful tweener market. The issue was with the Burn and its Babolat 2nd cousins is they are extremely stiff so that power does come at a steep trade off. Whereas the Clash is said to be powerful but soft and comfy with some saying a RA in the 40s.

The Burn line now will purely be a budget friendly spin effect line pre strung going forward. So I sort of see it as the modern play enhancement type racquet. To that effect the lines now make sense.

Those who had Burn PJs weren’t using actual Burns minus Kei but even his actual racquet still differed from current variation for consumption. So those players need to be dispersed to current lines. They don’t need a pro sponsorship of a skill enhancement racquet after all.

Anyways my take on what they are doing with their lines based on Instagram posts and the threads in here.

Oh and Halep who I love her play style isn’t using a Blade she’ll be using the same racquet she’s been using all along.
How would you categorize their line up? The PS is the head light heavy players racquet and then the rest kinda blur for me.
 

FedLIKEnot

Professional
How would you categorize their line up? The PS is the head light heavy players racquet and then the rest kinda blur for me.
-PRO STAFF
I would think Pro Staff would be the heritage line, more of the control typical or classic players frame. They do have enough offering across different weight specs to entice that sort of player. Of all of the lines Countervail is most poorly used here. It isnt needed and greatly effects alot of what the stand outs of the Pro Staff line were. I feel the Pro Staff line also needs a 95 in its spec range even if for old times sake. With the current reshuffling the only 95 is the new Ultra 95 formerly the old Burn 95. For selfish reasons (see my signature) if they wanted to make a new version of the 95 Spin I would be all in for 4 right now, well not right now but come tax return season.

-BLADE
A true modern players frame, not exactly box beam but a modern take on it not exactly a power frame but more powerful than the PS, a good all courter racquet for the modern game. Sort of bridges those heritage type racquets to modern power based frames. Does so with its spec and more traditional mold and materials.

-ULTRA
The more powerful of their current lot. Their response to a Babolat or the Head Extreme. Players looking to attack from the baseline emphasizing power and spin. Much the same way the Juice did before. It falls within that threshold. Its a good line for someone looking to add those components to their game. Losing a bit of feel and touch but amping up on the pace of shot. Seems to be a dumping ground for all of the racquets that dont fit the Blade or Pro Staff playing characteristics at least within their current lineup. Thus adding Kei's racquet to this line. The Ultra Tour doesnt seem to fit, however with all of the offerings you can see why its here. I would think it would best fit into the Blade lineup but that would muddy up that line alot. I was a big fan of the previous Ultra 97 but the stringbed was too erratic if they ever add that into this line again or make a 16/18 version of the incoming Ultra 95 I likely would change to it.

-BURN
I have already touched on the Burn, its becoming the modern (I have used this word a lot, sorry) player enhancement frame. Instead of those old XP Wilson frame and 115 head size Triad frames. Great for the junior transitioning to adult racquets and specs. Also will be popular I can imagine with the older demographic and some female players looking for a bigger margin with the headsize and the addition of spin enhancing attributes. If I ever need to or cannot find any good quality of my Pro Staff 95 Spin I may take to one of these models and add weight to it for my spec. Haha.

-CLASH
Now the Clash I think given that their was a picture floating around of a pro player having a 98 sq in strung up, and with the TW playtest offering two 100 sq in versions itll be the ultimate hybrid of all of it. Spec range wont be a traditional "tour" frame but close enough that a leather grip and some lead can get you there. It is said to be very powerful in line with a Babolat frame while having a soft RA thus preserving some of that touch and feel you lose with you stiffen up a frame to enhance power. Offering two 100 versions likely a 98 at some point with those above characteristics and with realigning the frames in their lines they could truly have something for everyone. How they market and who gets what paintjob and what pro if any starts to use the Clash (not likely at least this upcoming season) will play a part.

Enough of my ramblings caught me with alot of time to kill before I was off of work for the day. Haha.
 

NuBas

Legend
-PRO STAFF
I would think Pro Staff would be the heritage line, more of the control typical or classic players frame. They do have enough offering across different weight specs to entice that sort of player. Of all of the lines Countervail is most poorly used here. It isnt needed and greatly effects alot of what the stand outs of the Pro Staff line were. I feel the Pro Staff line also needs a 95 in its spec range even if for old times sake. With the current reshuffling the only 95 is the new Ultra 95 formerly the old Burn 95. For selfish reasons (see my signature) if they wanted to make a new version of the 95 Spin I would be all in for 4 right now, well not right now but come tax return season.

-BLADE
A true modern players frame, not exactly box beam but a modern take on it not exactly a power frame but more powerful than the PS, a good all courter racquet for the modern game. Sort of bridges those heritage type racquets to modern power based frames. Does so with its spec and more traditional mold and materials.

-ULTRA
The more powerful of their current lot. Their response to a Babolat or the Head Extreme. Players looking to attack from the baseline emphasizing power and spin. Much the same way the Juice did before. It falls within that threshold. Its a good line for someone looking to add those components to their game. Losing a bit of feel and touch but amping up on the pace of shot. Seems to be a dumping ground for all of the racquets that dont fit the Blade or Pro Staff playing characteristics at least within their current lineup. Thus adding Kei's racquet to this line. The Ultra Tour doesnt seem to fit, however with all of the offerings you can see why its here. I would think it would best fit into the Blade lineup but that would muddy up that line alot. I was a big fan of the previous Ultra 97 but the stringbed was too erratic if they ever add that into this line again or make a 16/18 version of the incoming Ultra 95 I likely would change to it.

-BURN
I have already touched on the Burn, its becoming the modern (I have used this word a lot, sorry) player enhancement frame. Instead of those old XP Wilson frame and 115 head size Triad frames. Great for the junior transitioning to adult racquets and specs. Also will be popular I can imagine with the older demographic and some female players looking for a bigger margin with the headsize and the addition of spin enhancing attributes. If I ever need to or cannot find any good quality of my Pro Staff 95 Spin I may take to one of these models and add weight to it for my spec. Haha.

-CLASH
Now the Clash I think given that their was a picture floating around of a pro player having a 98 sq in strung up, and with the TW playtest offering two 100 sq in versions itll be the ultimate hybrid of all of it. Spec range wont be a traditional "tour" frame but close enough that a leather grip and some lead can get you there. It is said to be very powerful in line with a Babolat frame while having a soft RA thus preserving some of that touch and feel you lose with you stiffen up a frame to enhance power. Offering two 100 versions likely a 98 at some point with those above characteristics and with realigning the frames in their lines they could truly have something for everyone. How they market and who gets what paintjob and what pro if any starts to use the Clash (not likely at least this upcoming season) will play a part.

Enough of my ramblings caught me with alot of time to kill before I was off of work for the day. Haha.
thanks man!
 

BHud

Hall of Fame
So it appears this clash frame will be a thick-beam, stiff, tweener racquet with disappointing spin.

Good riddance to the burn, but the clash certainly won't rock the casbah [emoji38]

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Not sure where you're getting your info...clash is supposed to have a very low RA?
 

stickM

New User
I read in another thread that the Blade Team 99 is the same racquet as, or replacement for, the Wilson Steam 99 if you're looking to try one. Supposedly the only difference is that the Blade Team mold no longer has the grooves on the inside of the hoop at 5 and 7 o'clock like the Steams had. You can see the grooves in close-ups of Halep's racquets, and several others like Ferrer and Ostapenko (18M, maybe 100).
 

ARB_tennis

New User
Simona's racket is Wilson Steam 99, with a string pattern of 16x18. It's the same racket she came in the WTA tour, only with about 4x10 cm of lead tape attached.
The rest is a paint job. Not so sure if the burn was a paint job, but is sure looks like this if you watch closely.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster



Here's the pic of Svitolina with Blade pj in France. Really makes me wonder if they are in fact going to discontinue the Burn as it is currently, if they have all players who endorsed it switch pjs (compared to an older frame, it appears to be that case with Elina, although the upper pic looks like she's not using 4G any more hm...). Would hate that, cause I would have to buy a few frames before they are gone :(
are those power holes in her racket ? if so what model is that ?
 
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