Happy 30th Anniversary HEAD Prestige On Tour Since 1986

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Oops yeah I meant tours, cheaper but all look like large grip sizes
I took a couple of Prestige Tour 600’s to one of the racquet customizers. I had the suspension grip removed and then a molded handle put on the hairpins. You can’t use pallets on the suspension grip racquets because of the unique shape of the hairpin.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I took a couple of Prestige Tour 600’s to one of the racquet customizers. I had the suspension grip removed and then a molded handle put on the hairpins. You can’t use pallets on the suspension grip racquets because of the unique shape of the hairpin.
Thanks, thought that would be an issue. Unsure if anyone outside of Prellis in Melbourne do custom moulds in Aus. Even they might not do it so may be worth sticking with the Classic. Will keep a look out :)
 

Arvid

Rookie
Sad news. I spoke to Tobias Kamke today at the Playford Challenger and he says that he’s switched from the PC 600. His new racquet has a Speed PJ and he says it’s a Speed Pro with a 98” headsize and an 18x20 pattern. I didn’t get to see it up close. Apparently he’s been considering a switch for some time to something more forgiving and finally made the decision during the off-season. But he says he still loves the PC 600 for its feel and control and that he’s kept his old stock to use when he retires. Extremely nice, friendly and approachable guy.
I wonder if Head stopped offering the PT 57 in its different versions to tour players unless they know specifically what to ask for. If Kamke loves the feel of the pt 10 but would look for something a little more forgiving with larger headsize it would seem like a no brainer to play with a pt 57....It seems that head doesnt really believe in the prestigeline anymore, both murray and djokovic could easily have indorsed the prestige instead of what they are using....
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I wonder if Head stopped offering the PT 57 in its different versions to tour players unless they know specifically what to ask for. If Kamke loves the feel of the pt 10 but would look for something a little more forgiving with larger headsize it would seem like a no brainer to play with a pt 57....It seems that head doesnt really believe in the prestigeline anymore, both murray and djokovic could easily have indorsed the prestige instead of what they are using....
Murray uses the PT57A while Djokovic has been using a PT113B Radical.
 

Arvid

Rookie
Murray uses the PT57A while Djokovic has been using a PT113B Radical.
Yes exactly but hes been using it all along of course. What im wondering is if suppose a pro player like Kamke wants to try for a new raquet, then head will give him a few different models to try, if he doesnt ask specifically for a pt 57 they might not even give him one to try. I imagine that in the past when some player was trying a different head raquet it was a given that they would be testing the pt 57s...only my guessing though dont know if theres any truth to it, just seems so strange that Kamke would not switch to a pt 57 version when he liked the pt 10 so much and only wanted something a little more forgiving...
 

PT630Wannabe

Professional
Yes exactly but hes been using it all along of course. What im wondering is if suppose a pro player like Kamke wants to try for a new raquet, then head will give him a few different models to try, if he doesnt ask specifically for a pt 57 they might not even give him one to try. I imagine that in the past when some player was trying a different head raquet it was a given that they would be testing the pt 57s...only my guessing though dont know if theres any truth to it, just seems so strange that Kamke would not switch to a pt 57 version when he liked the pt 10 so much and only wanted something a little more forgiving...
Hasse switched to the PT57, so he either knew to ask for it or HEAD knows exactly which frame would suit someone who played the mid his whole career.
 

TennisHound

Legend
But if you do your math the racquets sold as Prestige (the Prestige Pro 600 (TXP), PC600, and then iPrestige 600 and MP) to the retail public go back to about 1986... Which is what @vsbabolat and this thread are celebrating... They are not celebrating the current iterations that are far from the racquets mentioned previously (both here by me and in previous posts), but those of 20-30 yrs ago that were very much similar in mold and makeup (they had Twaron and were plush low RA just like the Pro Versions). Therefore, the thread is correct in what it's saying... that's all.

But I agree with you that the current Prestige racquets are nothing like the Pro Stock racquets used by current Pros and that it's misleading... also one of the peeves of @vsbabolat as well as many others on this forum.
oh I know.
 

OnyxZ28

Hall of Fame
I took a couple of Prestige Tour 600’s to one of the racquet customizers. I had the suspension grip removed and then a molded handle put on the hairpins. You can’t use pallets on the suspension grip racquets because of the unique shape of the hairpin.
How much did that cost per racket?
 

TennisHound

Legend
But if you do your math the racquets sold as Prestige (the Prestige Pro 600 (TXP), PC600, and then iPrestige 600 and MP) to the retail public go back to about 1986... Which is what @vsbabolat and this thread are celebrating... They are not celebrating the current iterations that are far from the racquets mentioned previously (both here by me and in previous posts), but those of 20-30 yrs ago that were very much similar in mold and makeup (they had Twaron and were plush low RA just like the Pro Versions). Therefore, the thread is correct in what it's saying... that's all.

But I agree with you that the current Prestige racquets are nothing like the Pro Stock racquets used by current Pros and that it's misleading... also one of the peeves of @vsbabolat as well as many others on this forum.
So I guess this thread is celebrating the Prestige from 1986-2006, since there were no Prestiges on tour after that (PT57s and such only)? Would a PT57 be considered a Prestige? I would think that it would be equivalent to an H22 or H19, which are in no way considered Blades.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
So I guess this thread is celebrating the Prestige from 1986-2006, since there were no Prestiges on tour after that (PT57s and such only)? Would a PT57 be considered a Prestige? I would think that it would be equivalent to an H22 or H19, which are in no way considered Blades.
I'm very sorry, but the Prestige Mid is still being used to this day. Again you just don't understand. Robin Haase was using the original Prestige Mid until 2018. Frank Moser is using the IG Prestige Mid with current paint job of the Touch Prestige Mid. The PT57 has nothing to do with this thread. All PT57 questions should be referred to this thread https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/the-cult-of-pt57.556061/ Just for your education the PT57A came out in 1993 and was sold as the Radical Trisys 260 MP to the consumer. This thread is in celebration of the ORIGINAL Prestige Pro/Classic 600 and its variants that first came out in 1986 and has been used on the ATP Tour until to this day. I highly recommend you actually read the posts in this thread before making your uninformed statements.
 
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TennisHound

Legend
I'm very sorry, but the Prestige Mid is still being used to this day. Again you just don't understand. Robin Haase was using the original Prestige Mid until 2018. Frank Moser is using the IG Prestige Mid with current paint job of the Touch Prestige Mid. The PT57 has nothing to do with this thread. All PT57 questions should be referred to this thread https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/the-cult-of-pt57.556061/ Just for your education the PT57A came out in 1993 and was sold as the Radical Trisys 260 MP to the consumer. This thread is in celebration of the ORIGINAL Prestige Pro/Classic 600 and its variants that first came out in 1986 and has been used on the ATP Tour until to this day. I highly recommend you actually read the posts in this thread before making your uninformed statements.
I know, I am pretty uninformed and make stupid posts, but I couldn't resolve this one (Sorry to be a hard head on this). Fortunately, you have answered my question. I had no idea about the PT57 actually started out as a Radical, or that an actual retail Prestige Mid was being used on tour. Thank you for answering my question. :)
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I know, I am pretty uninformed and make stupid posts, but I couldn't resolve this one (Sorry to be a hard head on this). Fortunately, you have answered my question. I had no idea about the PT57 actually started out as a Radical, or that an actual retail Prestige Mid was being used on tour. Thank you for answering my question. :)
One more thing about the PT57, The PT57E is the i.Prestige MP. So your comparison to Wilson does not fit. Try reading the thread.
 

dnguyen

Hall of Fame
I took a couple of Prestige Tour 600’s to one of the racquet customizers. I had the suspension grip removed and then a molded handle put on the hairpins. You can’t use pallets on the suspension grip racquets because of the unique shape of the hairpin.
Can I ask why did you remove the suspension grips?
 

dnguyen

Hall of Fame
The collar on the suspension grips are almost always disintegrated at this point so the grips are pretty sketchy. i think the handle design can also come loose and make annoying sounds.
I bought a pair of Head Prestige Tour 600 with suspension grips and could see the collars are cracking. was thinking about pallet customisation but I am from Australia.
 

PT630Wannabe

Professional
I bought a pair of Head Prestige Tour 600 with suspension grips and could see the collars are cracking. was thinking about pallet customisation but I am from Australia.
If the main part of the grip seems ok, one easy and cheap solution is to buy some mouldable marine epoxy and simply shape a new collar youself. I've done it myself to a Prestige Tour MP and was perfectly happy with the result. Regrip and play.
 

dnguyen

Hall of Fame
If the main part of the grip seems ok, one easy and cheap solution is to buy some mouldable marine epoxy and simply shape a new collar youself. I've done it myself to a Prestige Tour MP and was perfectly happy with the result. Regrip and play.
Actually I want someone professionally repaint my racquets as well.
 
I took a couple of Prestige Tour 600’s to one of the racquet customizers. I had the suspension grip removed and then a molded handle put on the hairpins. You can’t use pallets on the suspension grip racquets because of the unique shape of the hairpin.
And what about P. Pro? Is it possible to use std TK92 pallets? I can buy one in your favourite pj but with grip too small so without changing pallets it would be impossible to play with leather bg only ;)
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
And what about P. Pro? Is it possible to use std TK92 pallets? I can buy one in your favourite pj but with grip too small so without changing pallets it would be impossible to play with leather bg only ;)
You can put TK82 pallets on the Prestige Pro. When you buy new TK82 pallets they are too long for the racquet and I cut off the top of the pallets so it will properly fit the Prestige Pro and retain the awesome collar at the top of the grip.
 
You can put TK82 pallets on the Prestige Pro. When you buy new TK82 pallets they are too long for the racquet and I cut off the top of the pallets so it will properly fit the Prestige Pro and retain the awesome collar at the top of the grip.
THX for info :)

I don't like collars but I think this case is worth a second thought :)
 
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