Has any player the size of Wawrinka been this effective?
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Tyler-James
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Nadal looks bigger than him from a muscly standpoint, as I examine them shirtless. 
Brett69
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I don't want to gay the thread up. Wawrinka looks stocky, with a similar physical build as Becker. Boris always looked like a linebacker to me, and not a tennis player. It's very unusual when a player that size can win majors. I'm curious how he trains and would he be even more effective if he was 10-15 pounds lighter?Nadal looks bigger than him from a muscly standpoint, as I examine them shirtless.
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JRAJ1988
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Wawrinka's upper body strength is where the power resides, the way he hits that backhand most people would injure their shoulder.
Sam Groth is a the biggest dude I've seen on a Tennis court, he looks like Aussie Rules was a career avenue for him.
Sam Groth is a the biggest dude I've seen on a Tennis court, he looks like Aussie Rules was a career avenue for him.
smoledman
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Have you seen Fed's latest interview? He's downright anorexic.
Steve0904
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I believe that's because it was. He was an Aussie Rules football player at one point.
Tenez!
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I often wondered that.
I hit a two-hander, but when I dab at one-handers I'm mystified by how he gets such power without overextending his scapular muscles. Even Almagro's seems more feasible that Wawrinka, and that's saying a lot.
TupeloDanger
Professional
Serena could eat him.
Shaolin
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Its 10x easier to get power with a one hander IMO.
Sampras and Wawrinka are pretty much the same size.
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wawa not big really
Like Stan, John Newcombe was 6'0", pretty sturdily built, and relatively fast around the court. He also had a one-handed backhand, although he played a serve & volley game. Newk won 7 Majors (2 Australian Opens, 2 U.S. Opens, 3 Wimbledons), 5 in the Open Era, and reached #1. He also won the WCT finals and still has the record for most Major doubles titles. Here's footage of him winning the 1973 U.S. Open final over Kodes in 5 sets.
Freddy Cat
Professional
I doubt they have Stan's weight on ATP site correct. He's built like a pigmy bison.
r2473
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What would you estimate his height, weight, and bodyfat% to be?
To answer the OP's question, Tsonga is a pretty big guy, especially when he was playing around 220 lbs. He lost some weight this year, but I think he's playing at 205-210 lbs. still.
Groth has already been mentioned.
What height, weight, and bodyfat% do you estimate Becker was in his prime?
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Freddy Cat
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I wouldn't be surprised if Stan's about 210 lbs at the moment. More than a Simon, less than a Willis.
Roddick85
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I can't help but cringe after reading a lot of these responses. Seems like some of you are totally clueless about fitness, while others probably need an appointment with an optometrist.
Those that say Stan is stocky/big/fat, I just don't get it. Stan is stronger than most ATP players, probably trains with the goal of being explosive and powerful. Does he look as lean as someone like Djokovic? Obviously he doesn't, but he's far from fat or out of shape. Stan probably has a very different training regime than someone like Djokovic, but he's still extremely fit. The results of that are very good endurance and strength that gives more fire power than average which allows him to be the aggressor. Djokovic's game is based around his movement and endurance, however there's a fine line between being lean/muscular vs looking frail, which is what Novak looks like lately. In recent years, a lot of us have spoken about Federer not being a factor from the baseline and having lost a lot of firepower. I don't think it's any coincidence that the last time Federer was relevant as a baseliner was 2012 because when he started to drop weight in 2013 to "help his back" that's when his problems about hitting through his opponents really popped up. 2003-2006 Federer wasn't as lean as he's been those last couple of years, but he had firepower back then. Current Federer looks frail.
That's my personal opinion, but I don't endorse the school of though of absolute leanness = better movement and better tennis player. I'm not saying being fat is the way to go (obviously not), but I deeply believe that some muscle and a little fat is needed to protect your body from the physicality of the game,to have energy reserve when needed and also to generate a bit more power on every strokes. I'm sad to see that a lot of folks still buy into the myth that weight/muscle training will annihilate your game. It's not because you touch a weight that you become a 300lbs + bodybuilder that can't move.
Those that say Stan is stocky/big/fat, I just don't get it. Stan is stronger than most ATP players, probably trains with the goal of being explosive and powerful. Does he look as lean as someone like Djokovic? Obviously he doesn't, but he's far from fat or out of shape. Stan probably has a very different training regime than someone like Djokovic, but he's still extremely fit. The results of that are very good endurance and strength that gives more fire power than average which allows him to be the aggressor. Djokovic's game is based around his movement and endurance, however there's a fine line between being lean/muscular vs looking frail, which is what Novak looks like lately. In recent years, a lot of us have spoken about Federer not being a factor from the baseline and having lost a lot of firepower. I don't think it's any coincidence that the last time Federer was relevant as a baseliner was 2012 because when he started to drop weight in 2013 to "help his back" that's when his problems about hitting through his opponents really popped up. 2003-2006 Federer wasn't as lean as he's been those last couple of years, but he had firepower back then. Current Federer looks frail.
That's my personal opinion, but I don't endorse the school of though of absolute leanness = better movement and better tennis player. I'm not saying being fat is the way to go (obviously not), but I deeply believe that some muscle and a little fat is needed to protect your body from the physicality of the game,to have energy reserve when needed and also to generate a bit more power on every strokes. I'm sad to see that a lot of folks still buy into the myth that weight/muscle training will annihilate your game. It's not because you touch a weight that you become a 300lbs + bodybuilder that can't move.
metsman
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I became much better from the baseline after I started lifting regularly in high school
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
What?
FFS, this doesn't even mean anything. The muscles near the scapular are contracted when you hit a backhand, not extended.
Roddick85
Hall of Fame
Same for me. Actually I find there's a huge difference when I'm off doing weights because I'm playing 5+ times a week in the summer than when I'm doing weights and playing 1-2 a week indoor during the winter. When you get stronger, you can really hammer the ball, get more spin, tire less quickly. If it can have such benefit for an amateur player like me, at the higher level, it must make a huge difference.
Clarence Choat Clark Esq
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KineticChain
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those are literally never correct. ATP makes sure they are not correct and that they are off by at least 30 pounds.
Wawa is 3 inches taller than me and looks to be a good bit thicker and I'm 178 with 22% body fat at his approximate age. I'd guess he's easily pushing 195 to 200. The argument for lighter also pertains heavily to general joint and ligament health though. I've bulked up a lot since I started playing 4 days a week from like 168 to 178 and just that amount effects how my ankles/knees/back feel after pounding the pavement. I'd love to drop back to 165 but maintain my muscle mass.
heninfan99
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It is bursts of energy not a fakking marathon
pushing_wins
Hall of Fame
Stans head is huge
Jaitock1991
Hall of Fame
Seriously. He's not that big of a guy(talking then of course about his body, not a certain part of it).
smalahove
Hall of Fame
Good points.
Reminds me a bit of the balance in road cycling, esp. for climbers, where they focus on weight/leanness, but always have to take into consideration that on top athletes, less weight almost always equals less muscles, which again reduces the (wattage) effect produced, i.e. you end up with a smaller engine.
Your point about having a little fat, reminds me of the top alpine skiers, esp. in downhill, all of which are quite stocky, and have some excess fat around the waist. That being said they also have the most insane strength and muscles in that area, it's just that a) weight is a plus racing downhill and b) a certain % of body fat makes your/your body more resilient.
Roddick85
Hall of Fame
Indeed. A player like Djokovic is probably in the mid single digits fat % wise. At that level, there's no doubt it's affecting his strength and his energy level. The same could be said about Federer even though it might not look as obvious. A guy like Stan is probably more around 10% body fat which is perfectly OK for an athlete and not fat at all. When you look at a player like Tsonga, he's certainly on the bigger side, but he's also got a lot of fire power. I recall a few years back, he was a bit leaner and he wasn't as explosive, then he gained the weight back and retrieved what made him who he is. Anyone that studied fitness will tell you that it's impossible to lose weight and for all of it to be only fat. When you lose weight, you also lose a bit of muscle. So it's always a double edged sword.
Sysyphus
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He's not yuge overall, but has a stocky torso and creates almost unprecedented rotational force through to upper body as evidenced by his one-hander. He has obviously done his hip exercises etc etc. It's really a unique shot, and you can see from his enormous follow-through how much force he has to brake down after the shot.
Roddick85
Hall of Fame
Average adult male, non athlete is between 18-24. Low 10 is more like it for Stan.
droliver
Professional
Stan looks sturdy only next to the really lanky build of most professional tennis players. If you've been to a pro tournament in person, it's pretty striking when you see lean they are with longer then average arms. Stan doesn't really look like a pro athlete he's so average build
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Probably somewhere around 14 or 15 percent I'd say. He isn't that big of a guy, but he isn't super ripped either. He is certainly a tennis-level athlete though.
If you look at Agassi, he wasn't the skinniest guy around either... But he got the job done.
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Deleted member 716271
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No chance Stan is 10 percent. Novak is around 10 percent, maybe a bit less. AM is probably 10. Stan looks around 15.
Chanwan
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he's listed as 4 kg lighter than Fedal: http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/stan-wawrinka/w367/overview
Heard a commentator say, he had lost some weight since starting with Norman and I think that's true. He looks bigger than he is imo. Def. muscular and big torso for a tennis player, but rest is pretty standard.
No offense, but you haven't got a clue. I got measured to 5,6 % at some point and though I def. have an athletic build and fat doesn't stick with me, I don't have veins and muscle rings all over the place. It's very possible that Stan's a 10 %'er. He could also be 7, 12 or 15.
I also find it quite ridiculous that people believe they are capable of guessing it down to a percent or two.
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Ha... I still can't believe Stan did that photo shoot. I'm no prude or anything, but I don't especially want to see his crack. Guess Isner and Berdych did these, too.Then you came to the wrong thread, sexy 69 boy. It's about to get all gay up in here.
Sysyphus
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I bet the portrait of dear Tomáš is the first thing one sees when entering his house...
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What else has he got to show?
Sysyphus
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What else has he got to show?
Dunno, pretty decent wifey and the biggest collection of questionable H&M sportswear I guess..
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Deleted member 307496
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Not much tennis-related mantle piece stuff though..
Bet his kids will ask him what those things are in the cabinet in the future.
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Fembot model wife enters abode.
"Tomas, we never talk anymore."
*cricket*
"Tommy? Where are you darling?"
"Huh? Right here. Look up."
"What the...? Get down from the chandelier this instant."
"Hon, I am the chandelier. ESPN sent me another check. Photo crew will be here any sec."
Sysyphus
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