Has anyone ever won all 9 Masters series events ?

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We hear a lot of talk about the 'golden slam' but what about the 'golden masters' - someone who has won all 9 masters series events ?

If we were to substitute Hamburg for Madrid clay and Madrid indoors for Shanghai, then

Federer has won all but Monte Carlo , Rome and Paris

Nadal has won all but Miami , Cincinnati , Paris and the Masters Cup

Im surprised both players dont put more focus into achieving this feat :? Imo this is more spectacular than winning all 4 grand slams
 
Agassi may have gotten closer than anyone. He has the record for master series titles.

-Scratch that seems that nadal has the record.
 
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Federer might win Rome and Paris one day and Nadal might win Cincy, Miami and masters cup but will fail one short.

Federer winning Monte Carlo with Nadal....noooo! Rome....2008 scenario might happen. Paris...he can play well there but doesn't beacuse of the late season,

Nadal has the game to win in Miami and had millions of chances especially 2005 and 2008! Cincinatti....it could happen and Masters Cup...every great champion had won that once so he has too. Paris however...he would skip it or lose to a big server and he is tired at the end of the season and the trauma of his injuries in that event!
 
Andres said:
No one. Both Fed and Nadal has won 6/9.

I believe Agassi has the record with 7/9
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Yes Agassi has 7 and that's the max so far. Also Agassi is the only player to have won all masters on hard (IW, Miami, Canada (both Toronto and Montreal), Cinci, 1st indoor and Paris) while Nadal of course has won all masters on clay and he's the only one to have done it over 1 season.
If Nadal makes the Cinci Final or Fed makes the Paris final, they will be the only player to have made all finals.
 
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kishnabe said:
Federer might win Rome and Paris one day and Nadal might win Cincy, Miami and masters cup but will fail one short.

Federer winning Monte Carlo with Nadal....noooo! Rome....2008 scenario might happen. Paris...he can play well there but doesn't beacuse of the late season,

Nadal has the game to win in Miami and had millions of chances especially 2005 and 2008! Cincinatti....it could happen and Masters Cup...every great champion had won that once so he has too. Paris however...he would skip it or lose to a big server and he is tired at the end of the season and the trauma of his injuries in that event!
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From what I have heard Federer is skipping Monte Carlo. It is one of my favorite event but in recent years has been such a letdown. Nadal outright owns it due to all the players who chose to skip it every year.

Ironically, Nadal has had championship points in Miami and Federer has had championship points in Rome but neither has won them.

Its quite surprising Federer has not won Paris given his style of play but I just cant see Nadal ever winning Paris or Cincinnati for that matter.
 
PONG said:
From what I have heard Federer is skipping Monte Carlo. It is one of my favorite event but in recent years has been such a letdown. Nadal outright owns it due to all the players who chose to skip it every year.

Ironically, Nadal has had championship points in Miami and Federer has had championship points in Rome but neither has won them.

Its quite surprising Federer has not won Paris given his style of play but I just cant see Nadal ever winning Paris or Cincinnati for that matter.
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He never had championship points there. I think it was 5-2 third set tiebreak when Fed started his comeback in 05. Cincinatti I agree with you, he's never looked particularly solid there. He would need a real good draw there and Paris either way.
 
Federer's best chance at Paris was probably last year, if he just converted one of those 6 match points, especially the easy forehand that hit the tape, he would have had Soderling in the finals.
 
PONG said:
From what I have heard Federer is skipping Monte Carlo. It is one of my favorite event but in recent years has been such a letdown. Nadal outright owns it due to all the players who chose to skip it every year.
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Doubt it would make much difference if Federer was there. Which players "skip it every year", by the way?

PONG said:
Ironically, Nadal has had championship points in Miami and Federer has had championship points in Rome but neither has won them.
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Nadal has never had championship points at Miami. He was 2 points away from winning in 2005, but never got to championship point.

PONG said:
Its quite surprising Federer has not won Paris given his style of play but I just cant see Nadal ever winning Paris or Cincinnati for that matter.
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Nadal has at least reached the Paris final, losing to a Nalbandian who arguably played his best tennis ever. I do think Cincinnati will be very hard for Nadal to win, harder than any other.
 
If anybody ever won all 9. That would be insane.
The points are definitely more so than winning a CYGS.. but honestly, if you were a player, which one would you rather have?
All 9 masters or the Grand Slam.
I'm pretty sure 99% of the people on the boards would agree that the Grand Slam is a far larger accomplishment in the grand scheme of things
 
I don't see it happening, Fed had his chance at Paris last year and blew it, I really don't see him getting that one. Also, Rome, for Fed to win Nadal needs to either not show up or play lousy, and given his age and his recent struggles he is more beatable now then ever. Fed's chances to win all 9 I think are over (ducking objects being thrown at head).

As for Nadal..well, he is younger and he has a shot to do it I think. However, despite his massive amount of Talent he is to vulnerable on Hard Courts and is plenty beatable on them if a player gets hot, so while he has time and assuming his knees hold up the shot, likewise I don't see him doing it. I think if Nadal did though it would really get a lot of people hot and bothered though especially if he ends up near Federer in slam totals.

As for if it will ever happen..well...it might someday, whose to say. But if Federer couldn't do it (like I said..I think his chances of it are over...I could be wrong) and Nadal doesn't...well it would be hard to say anyone ever will.
 
Solomnstr said:
If anybody ever won all 9. That would be insane.
The points are definitely more so than winning a CYGS.. but honestly, if you were a player, which one would you rather have?
All 9 masters or the Grand Slam.
I'm pretty sure 99% of the people on the boards would agree that the Grand Slam is a far larger accomplishment in the grand scheme of things
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Yet, 3 people have won the career GS (on 3 different surfaces)... and none have won all 9 MS1000 events :)

So, it's debatable which is more prestigious since it appears to be more difficult to win all 9 MS events.
 
Prestigious and degree of difficulty are two different things, and are not necessarily related.

The relatively recent solidifying of the MS structure is also a factor to consider.
 
Winning Wimbledon in a leap year combined with winning the FO in the following year when it's odd has never been done, so clearly that is much harder the the CYGS, which has already been done. Geez, how stupid can people be?
 
PCXL-Fan said:
Personally I don't put much stock in the Master race.
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The current Masters tournament structure only came into existence in 1990. So there is only 20 years of history with this tournament structure on the tour. After Roy Emerson, there was a focus on "counting majors" with Sampras getting close to Emerson. Then, you had Agassi as the first man to get a "Career Grand Slam" since Emerson and then that term became popular. The "Grand Slam" (CYGS) has much more history and thus "prestige" attached to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_Masters_1000

The ATP World Tour Masters 1000 is a series of nine tennis tournaments that are part of the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP) tour, held annually throughout the year in Europe, North America and (as of 2009) Asia. The tournaments are important for the top male players on the professional circuit as the series constitutes the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis after the four Grand Slam events and the ATP World Tour Finals.
The series was introduced in 1990 with the inception of the ATP Tour by bringing together the nine most prestigious tournaments of the Grand Prix Tennis Circuit.
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boredone3456 said:
I don't see it happening, Fed had his chance at Paris last year and blew it, I really don't see him getting that one. Also, Rome, for Fed to win Nadal needs to either not show up or play lousy, and given his age and his recent struggles he is more beatable now then ever
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With Nadal losing early to Ferrero at 2008 Rome, Federer ended up losing to Stepanek in the quarter finals.
 
Im bumping this thread. Substitute Hamburg for Madrid clay and Madrid indoors for Shanghai

As of today

Federer 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Rome and Paris

Nadal 6/10 has won all but Miami , Cincinnati , Paris and the Masters Cup

Djokovic 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Cincinnati and Shanghai

Will one of these 3 win all 10 MS events in their careers ?

It seems Djokovic has the best chance, as he has got some of the tougher ones out of the way. Nadal and Federer both need MS titles on their weakest surfaces. And Nadal also needs the TMC.
 
JustBob said:
Correct. And furthermore, Daniel Nestor is the only player in tennis history to have won all four Grand Slams, all of the Masters Series events, the Year End Championships and Olympic gold medal at least once.

So, Daniel Nestor is the true GOAT. :)
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meh who cares about doubles :twisted:

j/k thats definitely one of the greatest feats in tennis right there

But I was talking more directly about singles here
 
JustBob said:
Correct. And furthermore, Daniel Nestor is the only player in tennis history to have won all four Grand Slams, all of the Masters Series events, the Year End Championships and Olympic gold medal at least once.

So, Daniel Nestor is the true GOAT. :)
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Can you trade out Pam Shriver for Daniel Nestor in HoF? I would be a massive improvement.
 
PONG said:
Im bumping this thread. Substitute Hamburg for Madrid clay and Madrid indoors for Shanghai

As of today

Federer 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Rome and Paris

Nadal 6/10 has won all but Miami , Cincinnati , Paris and the Masters Cup

Djokovic 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Cincinnati and Shanghai

Will one of these 3 win all 10 MS events in their careers ?
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Its confusing to include the Masters Cup. That is quite a separate event from the 9 Masters Series and is rated higher in terms of ranking points won.

All three of the top players are 6/9 in Masters 1000 events. Each of the three are currently missing three tournaments.

Djokovic has obviously the best chance of closing that gap even further this year with Shanghai coming up. If he is still playing to the same level next year, then he will be the best placed to capture the remaining two tournaments and complete the set if he manages to stay fit and healthy.
 
PONG said:
Im bumping this thread. Substitute Hamburg for Madrid clay and Madrid indoors for Shanghai

As of today

Federer 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Rome and Paris

Nadal 6/10 has won all but Miami , Cincinnati , Paris and the Masters Cup

Djokovic 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Cincinnati and Shanghai

Will one of these 3 win all 10 MS events in their careers ?

It seems Djokovic has the best chance, as he has got some of the tougher ones out of the way. Nadal and Federer both need MS titles on their weakest surfaces. And Nadal also needs the TMC.
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Unless Nadal decides to focus on winning just the TMC, this will never happen, he is always thrashed physically by this point.
 
PONG said:
Im bumping this thread. Substitute Hamburg for Madrid clay and Madrid indoors for Shanghai

As of today

Federer 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Rome and Paris

Nadal 6/10 has won all but Miami , Cincinnati , Paris and the Masters Cup

Djokovic 7/10 has won all but Monte Carlo , Cincinnati and Shanghai

Will one of these 3 win all 10 MS events in their careers ?

It seems Djokovic has the best chance, as he has got some of the tougher ones out of the way. Nadal and Federer both need MS titles on their weakest surfaces. And Nadal also needs the TMC.
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Add Paris to what I said about Nadal.
 
PONG said:
We hear a lot of talk about the 'golden slam' but what about the 'golden masters' - someone who has won all 9 masters series events ?

If we were to substitute Hamburg for Madrid clay and Madrid indoors for Shanghai, then

Federer has won all but Monte Carlo , Rome and Paris

Nadal has won all but Miami , Cincinnati , Paris and the Masters Cup

Im surprised both players dont put more focus into achieving this feat :? Imo this is more spectacular than winning all 4 grand slams
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Well unfortunately for you, none of the players find winning all 9 more spectacular than winning all 4 slams.
 
Agassifan said:
WTF is a wonderful tournament and it closest to a slam. Everything else is just to gain points (and money)
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Quite the opposite I would say, first of all you are missing 120 players, the players generally treat this a little bit above an exhibition, plenty of years guys skip it, so I would say this event is done for the points and money if anything.
 
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