Has next gen finally surpassed lost gen?
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Sputnik Bulgorov
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Next gen surpassed lost gen a long time ago. It wasn't a very high bar to clear.
Aabye5
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And I do...so they still need at least one more Slam final.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Definitely Maybe
Then need to include Del Potro since he is same age as Cilic
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Zero slams among them all - when they should have been dominating the tour since 2017. Against an ancient top 3.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
LostGen 3, NextGen 0 in the Slam count.
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
It would have been a disaster if they didn't given the difference in the quality of the Big 3 each faced.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
Depends on how you look at it. Next gen needed for the big 3 to be in damn near wheelchairs(and even still djoker can win the calendar) to win anything . Lost gen had to deal with thre more prime versions of the big 3. You can kind of argue lost gen is still superior
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
The next gens passed them awhile ago.
They’re both still extremely subpar compared to previous generations, but there’s a noticeable difference between the two.
They’re both still extremely subpar compared to previous generations, but there’s a noticeable difference between the two.
Regardless of the Big-4, Raonic, Dimitrov etc never had the consistency of the next gen. Raonic was a top-10 player for about 1,5 years, Dimitrov for a little over 2 years, Nishikori for 4 years. And they were older than the next gen is now when they first reached top-10.
The next gen top players are basically top-10 players since their early 20s - even top-5 for most of the time.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Well if that is the case then they have 1.5 slams to none.
Nadalgaenger
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Sputnik Bulgorov
Professional
Hard to win masters titles when peak Fed was dominating hard and young Nadal was dominating clay. Nextgen are only competing with each other for the masters these days.
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
If Thiem/Cilic are part of lostgen, then definitely not.
All those nextgen GS finals COMBINED are worth nothing compared to one sigle GS title.
All those nextgen GS finals COMBINED are worth nothing compared to one sigle GS title.
Zverev beat Rafa and Djokovic on clay on his way to 2x clay masters. Beat Fed on HC to win a HC master...beat Djokerer back to back for a WTF Title....
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Let the (s)mugness begin!
junior74
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RelentlessAttack
Hall of Fame
Zverev is and has been legit, on the occasions when he has it together mentally. Only Nextgen player who has the game, the others all have really critical fundamental flaws, like Stef’s ROS. He unfortunately has all kinds of off court issues that have held him back
Sputnik Bulgorov
Professional
They beat declined big 3. It’s what we’ve been expecting them to do since 2018. They are 9-11 years younger after all.
2005-2010 Rafa and Fed on clay and hard are light years ahead of what nextgen had to face. Likewise, 2011-2015 Djokovic is light years ahead of current Djokovic.
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A big Yas.
The Blond Blur
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Timmy is the youngest pup in the litter of #LostGen.
Chili is on the younger side of the modern golden Gen.
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
Nishikori is not much younger than del Potro and Cilic, one could argue the latter are part of that generation too so it's a no-brainer in that regard.
Thiem is basically in between generations, shouldn't count for either.
Thiem is basically in between generations, shouldn't count for either.
nolefam_2024
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Lol yes.
nolefam_2024
G.O.A.T.
At least they faced big 3. Dimitrov has won WTF beating sock. Zverev has beaten Fedkovic. Lol. 2017, worst year after RG. The competition was pathetic. Didn't sock win a masters ? Is he part of lost gen?
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
nolefam_2024
G.O.A.T.
The name has stuck. Sinner/FAA/Musetti might be next next gen..
-snake-
Hall of Fame
It's wrong, though. They're not just good prospects anymore, they're a reality now.
nolefam_2024
G.O.A.T.
Even when they had no big 3 they flopped. Wimbledon 2016 was a whitewash.
Oh I think next gen is better and they are flops but I feel if they were the age of next gen now it be different.
Remember though Djokovic is dominating slams he is poor in masters etc as I feel he doesn’t really care. He has 3 slams no masters and a 250 this season so someone has to win the masters and it’s the next gen
Entername
Professional
Funny part is, they still have the same number of slams won
Slams won by 1980-1984 gen: 26 (Federer, Hewitt, Roddick, Ferrero, Safin)
Slams won by 1985-1989 gen: 51 (Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, Cilic)
Slams won by 1990-1994 gen: 1 (Thiem)
Slams won by 1995-1999 gen: 1 (Medvedev)
Slams won by 1980-1984 gen: 26 (Federer, Hewitt, Roddick, Ferrero, Safin)
Slams won by 1985-1989 gen: 51 (Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, Cilic)
Slams won by 1990-1994 gen: 1 (Thiem)
Slams won by 1995-1999 gen: 1 (Medvedev)
Omega_7000
Legend
Yeah but only because big three are older....If big three were in their primes, all of these next gen losers would be slamless
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
LostGen won 1 slam, NextGen won 1 slam.
So no.
And LostGen had to deal with Big 3 their entire careers whereas these NextGen freeloaders are basically waiting until Djokovic and Nadal retire.
Pathetic.
So no.
And LostGen had to deal with Big 3 their entire careers whereas these NextGen freeloaders are basically waiting until Djokovic and Nadal retire.
Pathetic.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Did they really surpass them? Or did they simply get to face older, more broken-down, and/or retired versions of the Djokodal Gen.
UnderratedSlam
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Fiero425
Legend
Lost Gen. (Dimitrov, Cilic, Kei) did deal w/ prime Big 3, but they had the ability to win! Next Gen. (Sascha, Thiem, Medvedev) has more Masters & an Olympic G Med.!
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Easily. Nishikori, Dimitrov and Raonic set the bar so low it was easy even for the NextMugs.
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