Has the Pure Drive become…Taboo??

Sweatii_yetii

New User
Hi everyone, this question mostly pertains to this forum. I know that it sells quite well and is the
de-facto “power racket but it seems like a lot of higher caliber players believe it’s more a beginner racket.

Reason I ask is I’ve had a few hits with the latest model PD and it’s felt great. I don’t have any real complaints other than this generation feels a little too dampened but compared to other rackets in a similar weight class I think it nears the top.

I’m sure most of the members here have played with a generation of the PD along the way. What’s the reason you dropped the PD or just steered clear altogether?(other than stiffness)
 

RVT

Rookie
have no idea of it's taboo, but I love my PD+ (2021). Wish there was a Tour version, but I added a bit of weight to the hoop and some to the handle and it's perfect. I'm a former open level player and know how to hit a tennis ball, and I certainly don't find it "too powerful". I do string it a bit tighter to take away some of the power, but nothing crazy (Head Velocity at 54-56)
 

n8dawg6

Legend
hmmm, ive owned the 2013 mp, 2015 mp and team, 2018 mp, and ive demoed the 2021 mp. i got rid of the 2013 bc it was too stiff; got rid of the the 2015s bc they were too stiff; tried multis, synthetic gut, hybrid, and full poly with the 2018, then got rid of it bc it was too stiff. the 2021 demo i played was a very good racquet. possibly the best of the bunch. the 2013 would be my 2nd fav.
 

Sweatii_yetii

New User
Great racquet! I have switched to it. I have been playing heavy pro staffs for years but have been wanting to go lighter.

The magic of this racquet is it’s very stable at a lighter weight.
Yea it indeed is a great racket and rock solid for its weight! I assume it has a lot to do with its beam size.
 

Sweatii_yetii

New User
It is a great racket... but there are greater rackets that don't destroy your arm over time..
Yea there are other great “power” rackets for sure. What are some that you’ve used/enjoyed out of curiosity.

also to address the arm pain that’s often associated with this racket. Do any of you think it’s due to these types of frames being recommended to beginner/intermediate players who don’t have the Correct technique and therefore are more likely to become injured due to its stiffness more so then the stiffness itself? The rf97 has a high stiffness rating but is geared towards advanced players. The most common complaint is usually the weight with that one.
 

Sweatii_yetii

New User
have no idea of it's taboo, but I love my PD+ (2021). Wish there was a Tour version, but I added a bit of weight to the hoop and some to the handle and it's perfect. I'm a former open level player and know how to hit a tennis ball, and I certainly don't find it "too powerful". I do string it a bit tighter to take away some of the power, but nothing crazy (Head Velocity at 54-56)
Yea I’ve really been enjoying my PD. Had it for about a month coming off the Wilson blade 18x20(2015) that I’ve used for years and had no desire to go back
 
It is a great racket... but there are greater rackets that don't destroy your arm over time..
I have played with a Pure Drive 2018 for the last 8 months and love the racquet! However, I just started with arm pain for first time this month. I am sure it is not just the racquet and my technique has some influence. That said I am a little worried about the pain. I’m interested in your list of alternatives to the PD. I’m always willing to try a new racquet!
 
I previously tried Wilson Ultra 100 CV but did not like the feel.
I will have to demo the 360+ Instinct MP.
In the meantime, I switched my strings to multifilament in the PD
(NXT mains/Velocity crosses)
 

mnttlrg

Professional
What’s the reason you dropped the PD or just steered clear altogether?(other than stiffness)
The old ones were pretty darn good rackets. I had a blast hitting with one of them the other day. The new ones are cheap, flimsy, hollowed-out garbage that have absolutely terrible control and often have mediocre spin to boot. They are sad in every way.
 

McGradey

Professional
Still one of the most popular racquets I see on the courts here in Aus
The 2015 version particularly so
 

A_Instead

Legend
The pure drive with a multi is nearly impossible to play with depending on your level..
You have to go up in tension to make it playable..then that makes if feel even more harsh..
Also multi strings break really fast in the pure drive.

Pure drive is a good racket..but it's a silent killer.. my arm never hurt while playing.. but that evening when chilling.. you can feel it..
 

Samds0426

New User
The pure drive with a multi is nearly impossible to play with depending on your level..
You have to go up in tension to make it playable..then that makes if feel even more harsh..
Also multi strings break really fast in the pure drive.

Pure drive is a good racket..but it's a silent killer.. my arm never hurt while playing.. but that evening when chilling.. you can feel it..
here is a follow up question.. I have been a pd user for a long time and I currently use the 2018 model. I have experienced zero pain with the pd. I recently tried the blade and strike. I liked the overall feel, control, and maneuverability, but I missed the extra power and spin from the pd. What is a great racket for a lifelong pd user to switch to?
 
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KaiserW

Hall of Fame
The pure drive with a multi is nearly impossible to play with depending on your level..
You have to go up in tension to make it playable..then that makes if feel even more harsh..
Also multi strings break really fast in the pure drive.

Pure drive is a good racket..but it's a silent killer.. my arm never hurt while playing.. but that evening when chilling.. you can feel it..
My buddy uses NXT in his but he does hit flat. If playing with a good amount of topspin agree strings will break too quick.
 

Racingclub

New User
here is a follow up question.. I have been a pd user for a long time and I currently use the 2018 model. I have experienced zero pain with the pd. I recently tried the blade and strike. I liked the overall feel, control, and maneuverability, but I missed the extra power and spin from the pd. What is a great racket for a lifelong pd user to switch to?
Wilson Clash pro/tour will do the job if you are addicted to the power and spin over the feel, control, and maneuverability without getting an elbow even you play 5 ~ 6 hours of tennis daily.
 
The pure drive with a multi is nearly impossible to play with depending on your level..
You have to go up in tension to make it playable..then that makes if feel even more harsh..
Also multi strings break really fast in the pure drive.

Pure drive is a good racket..but it's a silent killer.. my arm never hurt while playing.. but that evening when chilling.. you can feel it..
Ha! You just described the onset of my arm pain. I do not notice it playing but really start to feel it later that night or next morning. Let’s see how long I last with the PD but I am planning to try the new solinco 100 when it is available and I will also demo the instinct MP per your suggestion.
 

Wheelz

Professional
I have played with a Pure Drive 2018 for the last 8 months and love the racquet! However, I just started with arm pain for first time this month. I am sure it is not just the racquet and my technique has some influence. That said I am a little worried about the pain. I’m interested in your list of alternatives to the PD. I’m always willing to try a new racquet!
Maybe it's not the racquet after 8 months ? But Pure Aero could be tried and is not as stiff. Wilson Clash is very flexy and comfortable but you're going for totally different feel.
 

Samds0426

New User
Wilson Clash pro/tour will do the job if you are addicted to the power and spin over the feel, control, and maneuverability without getting an elbow even you play 5 ~ 6 hours of tennis daily.
What about a racket that ditches the pop also should a post a new thread about this to get more opinions
 

Racingclub

New User
Maybe it's not the racquet after 8 months ? But Pure Aero could be tried and is not as stiff. Wilson Clash is very flexy and comfortable but you're going for totally different feel.
Actually, you are absolutely correct about the feel. Every racket brand like Babolat, Wilson, and Head has it owns racket and ball contact feel.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
I have a 2021 PD+ and it’s great. String pattern is actually a bit denser in the center than many other competing power racquets, so it’s not too difficult to control at all despite being a power frame.
 

RVT

Rookie
I have a 2021 PD+ and it’s great. String pattern is actually a bit denser in the center than many other competing power racquets, so it’s not too difficult to control at all despite being a power frame.
Yeah, this is my experience with it. Power across the stringbed seems consistent. Stinging multi relatively tight, I find it as easier to control as a 7G, which is supposedly a control racket. My issue with the 7G was exactly that--power seemed to inconsistent across the stringbed (and lower when you hit high up on the hoop). I started at 62 lbs on multi, but have been able to drop it to 54/56 and it's fine in terms of control. Yes, multi breaks pretty fast, but that's why I have a stringing machine... I've never been prone to arm issues, but I personally have no issues with it.
 

RobS

Rookie
I see as many Pure Drives in high level players hands as I do beginners. It's an easy to play racquet that is very powerful for it's weight. The good players I see playing it like the power and keep the ball in the court with spin. I've never considered it to be overpowered when compared to higher swingweight 'players' frames. I see just as much power out of a 330sw Blade 98 although not nearly the forgiveness. Technique is likely the dominant cause of tennis elbow with any frame. Specific to the Pure Drive, string choice and tension will play a big factor in comfort. String multi or syn gut at the top of the tension range or a poly at mid tension can be uncomfortable for anyone that's not an exceptionally clean ball striker.

100", 300g racquets are a good choice for a lot of players and there are a lot of good racquets in this category in addition to Pure Drive. I personally like the power but favor getting that power from the slightly softer and thinner racquets available in 98", 305-310g range a the moment.
 

Turbo-87

Legend
I played with a Pure Drive after three years into playing, but for only a year. I tried out the latest model but just couldn't jell with it. I prefer thin beamed, flexy, low power and tightly strung racquets.
 

Crocodile

Legend
Every company pretty much has something like the Pure Drive. You can go all the way back to Pro Kennex when they released their Destiny wide body frames, ( composite, Ceramic, Graphite) the Rod Laver Heritage frame and their Asymmetric frames. Volkl also released their V1 line of frames in 1994. These racquets paved the way for Babolat and the rest is history.
 

beltsman

Legend
Hi everyone, this question mostly pertains to this forum. I know that it sells quite well and is the
de-facto “power racket but it seems like a lot of higher caliber players believe it’s more a beginner racket.

Reason I ask is I’ve had a few hits with the latest model PD and it’s felt great. I don’t have any real complaints other than this generation feels a little too dampened but compared to other rackets in a similar weight class I think it nears the top.

I’m sure most of the members here have played with a generation of the PD along the way. What’s the reason you dropped the PD or just steered clear altogether?(other than stiffness)
At one point or another I owned the 12, 15, and 18 models. Liked them at first. "Easy" to play. But I quickly missed playing nuanced tennis. I didn't like the feel and vague control.
 

Sweatii_yetii

New User
here is a follow up question.. I have been a pd user for a long time and I currently use the 2018 model. I have experienced zero pain with the pd. I recently tried the blade and strike. I liked the overall feel, control, and maneuverability, but I missed the extra power and spin from the pd. What is a great racket for a lifelong pd user to switch to?
The strike in my opinion is a great racket. I prefer it over the blade in just about every way. Im not a fan of how dampened the v7 feels. I also found that the strike especially in a 16x19 offers quite a bit of power. Maybe not as much as a pure drive but it’s a trade off since you don’t feel a little bit more connected to your shots with the strike in comparison to the PD
 

Sweatii_yetii

New User
I see as many Pure Drives in high level players hands as I do beginners. It's an easy to play racquet that is very powerful for it's weight. The good players I see playing it like the power and keep the ball in the court with spin. I've never considered it to be overpowered when compared to higher swingweight 'players' frames. I see just as much power out of a 330sw Blade 98 although not nearly the forgiveness. Technique is likely the dominant cause of tennis elbow with any frame. Specific to the Pure Drive, string choice and tension will play a big factor in comfort. String multi or syn gut at the top of the tension range or a poly at mid tension can be uncomfortable for anyone that's not an exceptionally clean ball striker.

100", 300g racquets are a good choice for a lot of players and there are a lot of good racquets in this category in addition to Pure Drive. I personally like the power but favor getting that power from the slightly softer and thinner racquets available in 98", 305-310g range a the moment.
What are your thoughts on the pure strike or speed 360+ MP?
 

Samds0426

New User
The strike in my opinion is a great racket. I prefer it over the blade in just about every way. Im not a fan of how dampened the v7 feels. I also found that the strike especially in a 16x19 offers quite a bit of power. Maybe not as much as a pure drive but it’s a trade off since you don’t feel a little bit more connected to your shots with the strike in comparison to the PD
Yeah, I completely agree. I felt like the strike provides everything the blade offers plus some extra pop and power. I like it much more
 
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beltsman

Legend
I previously tried Wilson Ultra 100 CV but did not like the feel.
I will have to demo the 360+ Instinct MP.
In the meantime, I switched my strings to multifilament in the PD
(NXT mains/Velocity crosses)
Try the Speed. Less power, but you can adjust strings for that. Much better feel and not nearly as stiff. But not a noodle like the"flexible" frames.
 

socallefty

Legend
If you try the Strike, try the Strike Tour. It is the best racquet of the line and the SW is similar to the lighter versions while being more comfortable and stable.
 

Sweatii_yetii

New User
here is a follow up question.. I have been a pd user for a long time and I currently use the 2018 model. I have experienced zero pain with the pd. I recently tried the blade and strike. I liked the overall feel, control, and maneuverability, but I missed the extra power and spin from the pd. What is a great racket for a lifelong pd user to switch to?
Just curious are you thinking of switch from using a PD for any specific reason or just testing the waters?
 

socallefty

Legend
The Pure Drive is the most popular racquet you will see amongst juniors and women at all the clubs I’ve been a member of. In the last ten years, I have not seen too many adult men using it - if they use Babolat, they use the Pure Aero or Pure Strike more. In general, Babolat racquets seem less common amongst adult men while they seem to clearly have the #1 market share amongst juniors and women. Wilson seems to do very well amongst adult men while I hardly see any women with Wilson and only a few juniors at the rec level. At least, that is my experience in Southern California.
 

Samds0426

New User
Just curious are you thinking of switch from using a PD for any specific reason or just testing the waters?
No. I haven’t had any issues with my pd. I just feel like I am missing out; a different stick could possibly give me minor improvements to my game. Quite frankly, I am probably not going to change rackets. It is not a worthwhile investment, it would be much more practical to spend 30bucks or so on lead tape, tungsten putty, and leather grips.
 

RobS

Rookie
What are your thoughts on the pure strike or speed 360+ MP?
Big fan of the Speed MP 360+. Excellent all around racquet and probably my favorite 100 on the market. I have not hit the Strike 100 but have hit the 98. The 98 Strike is a good frame but my top 3 98’s are the Ezone & VCore 98’s and the Head Extreme Tour. I’m currently playing the Ezone 98.
 

TennisHound

Legend
I used the ‘18 PD and never had any arm problems. It’s a great racquet and raised my level. I used heavier racquets, but got selected for the play test and used it from then on.
I switched to a racquet just like it (but with a slightly narrower head - FX500 with added weight). If I wasn’t using the Dunlop I’d be using the PD.
 

Chris Wilson

New User
I'm on the opposite side to many here. I've used lower powered, heavy control frames for years, but when I hurt my knee this year and couldn't move well, I decided to try more power-friendly racquets. Tried the Vcore 98 for a while, but it gave me golfer's elbow. I switched to the Pure Drive not expecting anything, and I've loved it. My movement is still limited, but if I get to a ball, I can absolutely clobber it with the PD, and I've found the control to be remarkable. It's not exactly precise, but I don't find myself launching the ball given how hard I generally swing. No elbow issues here just yet. A number of the former-college guys I hit with still use the PD, though older generations. All in all, I'm pretty impressed with it. As for alternatives, I did like the Speed MP quite a bit, but it felt hollow and disconnected to me. I liked the Speed Pro a lot more, but it didn't have the pop. I'm curious about the Head Extreme and the new Head coming out.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Hi everyone, this question mostly pertains to this forum. I know that it sells quite well and is the
de-facto “power racket but it seems like a lot of higher caliber players believe it’s more a beginner racket.

Reason I ask is I’ve had a few hits with the latest model PD and it’s felt great. I don’t have any real complaints other than this generation feels a little too dampened but compared to other rackets in a similar weight class I think it nears the top.

I’m sure most of the members here have played with a generation of the PD along the way. What’s the reason you dropped the PD or just steered clear altogether?(other than stiffness)
I love the pure drive. This latest one is pretty awesome. Personally there is too little feel and touch. Even with a multi it feels hollow in a sense. I prefer the graphene 360+ extreme mp as it feels a hair softer and better ball feel. Don’t let people tell you the pure drive isn’t an advanced frame though, use whatever you want.
 
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