Has Thiem got Federer covered on every surface? Players who have defeated a Big 3 member on every surface?

[Oceans II]

Every surface being hard, clay and grass.

Players who have defeated Nadal on every surface:
- Djokovic
- Federer

Players who have defeated Djokovic on every surface:
- Nadal
- Federer
- Murray

Berdych has victories on clay and grass but is 0-21 on hard

Players who have defeated Federer on every surface:
- Nadal
- Djokovic
- Tsonga
- Thiem
- Rafter

Thiem has wins on outdoor hard, indoor hard, "normal" clay, Madrid clay and grass.

Discuss.

 

[pj80]

Every surface being hard, clay and grass.

Players who have defeated Nadal on every surface:
- Djokovic
- Federer

Players who have defeated Djokovic on every surface:
- Nadal
- Federer
- Murray

Berdych has victories on clay and grass but is 0-21 on hard

Players who have defeated Federer on every surface:
- Nadal
- Djokovic
- Tsonga
- Thiem
- Rafter

Thiem has wins on outdoor hard, indoor hard, "normal" clay, Madrid clay and grass.

Discuss.

Whats Berdych score vs Fed on clay? He beat him on grass and hard

 

[aman92]

Peak Thiem >> Fed, confirmed

 

[helterskelter]

Whats Berdych score vs Fed on clay? He beat him on grass and hard

4-0 Federer on clay:

2005 Hamburg 6-2 6-1
2006 Roland Garros 6-3 6-2 6-3
2012 Madrid 3-6 7-5 7-5 [Berdych missed his chance on blue clay!]
2015 Rome 6-3 6-3

Very weird by the way that Berdych was 6-11 v Federer and a set up in a match when Berdych was 28.5 and Federer was 32.5 [Dubai 2014] and coming off a pretty serious injury/drop in form combination, and Federer ended up 20-6 in the head to head.

 

[Sport]

Roddick should take a notebook from Thiem on how to beat Federer on every surface.

The idea of Roddick beating Federer (at any age) on clay is laughable.

 

[pj80]

4-0 Federer on clay:

2005 Hamburg 6-2 6-1
2006 Roland Garros 6-3 6-2 6-3
2012 Madrid 3-6 7-5 7-5 [Berdych missed his chance on blue clay!]
2015 Rome 6-3 6-3

Very weird by the way that Berdych was 6-11 v Federer and a set up in a match when Berdych was 28.5 and Federer was 32.5 [Dubai 2014] and coming off a pretty serious injury/drop in form combination, and Federer ended up 20-6 in the head to head.

not really weird considering Fed's level improvement starting in 2014. He also improved his H2H with Murray and Nadal...players he struggled in 2004-2013

 

[abmk]

4-0 Federer on clay:

2005 Hamburg 6-2 6-1
2006 Roland Garros 6-3 6-2 6-3
2012 Madrid 3-6 7-5 7-5 [Berdych missed his chance on blue clay!]
2015 Rome 6-3 6-3

Very weird by the way that Berdych was 6-11 v Federer and a set up in a match when Berdych was 28.5 and Federer was 32.5 [Dubai 2014] and coming off a pretty serious injury/drop in form combination, and Federer ended up 20-6 in the head to head.

fed berdych is like 3 phases:

fed dominates and is up like 9-1 from 2004-09.
berdych has the edge in 2010-2013 leading 5-3.
then fed dominates 8-0 from 2014-2019

 

[abmk]

Every surface being hard, clay and grass.

Players who have defeated Nadal on every surface:
- Djokovic
- Federer

Players who have defeated Djokovic on every surface:
- Nadal
- Federer
- Murray

Berdych has victories on clay and grass but is 0-21 on hard

Players who have defeated Federer on every surface:
- Nadal
- Djokovic
- Tsonga
- Thiem
- Rafter

Thiem has wins on outdoor hard, indoor hard, "normal" clay, Madrid clay and grass.

Discuss.

hilarious that Murray has wins over Nadal on clay, but not on grass. that along with Thiem(grass for injury affected fed in 16)/Rafter (pre-prime fed) for fed shows its more a matter of timing than skill necessarily.

 

[Tennfan123]

You’ll see the numbers rise for the other 2 the longer they hang around.

 

[JaxTeller]

It tells us that.. if not for the nostalgia bias.. Thiem is better than lowdick