Has USTA ever asked somebody to appeal down?

Vox Rationis

Semi-Pro
Predictable response.

His UTR is 12.4 ... and yes, he was trying. But fatigue makes mortals of us all.

His response after our first match was, “the #1 thing you have going for you is your confidence. I couldn’t break you at any point. You just kept coming and it wears on players”. If im able to convey anything on these boards it’s my arrogance. So I think at least that much would come across as credible LOL.

The other thing he complimented was my side to side court coverage. Despite his power advantage, i could get to every ball and also was anticipating his patrerns well.
Do you ever beat the 4.5s and 5.0s in your rotation?
 

Vox Rationis

Semi-Pro
I guess I don’t understand why, if ratings were frozen, that next year would be any different than this year would have been. Some people will improve, sure, but no one will be getting bumped down into a new lower league either. Seems like a wash.
They're saying the spread of ability will have both a higher and lower limit than normal which is exactly what you just said. Seems like you're thinking they meant the overall average ability would be higher but that's not what they were referring to.
 

widebody 13

New User
I hadn't picked up a racket in years and started hitting with a very nice group of guys who were in a USTA 3.5 league. When I went through the self-rating, because I played in college (many, many years ago) I was rated 4.0. I asked if I could be rated as a 3.5 because I hadn't played in a long time and I had lost some vision in my right eye due to a stroke. The USTA was very accommodating. The following year, I played in several doubles tournaments and at at the end of the year, my partner and I were ranked #1 in our district. I petitioned the USTA to let me become a 4.0 and they refused. It doesn't matter of course because I can play in 4.0 tournaments (which is what I do) but it is funny how things sometimes work out.
 

biloxi777

New User
Nationals next year will be fun. Ratings are frozen from this year so plenty of above range players in each rating group.
When was it annouced that ratings were frozen? My league coordinator says our section has not made that decision. Why did we resume play if the matches were not going to count?
 

ATX Tennis

New User
When was it annouced that ratings were frozen? My league coordinator says our section has not made that decision. Why did we resume play if the matches were not going to count?
I don’t think it’s been announced. Matches count in ratings but they won’t run new ratings at the end of this year. At least that’s what we’ve been told.
 
I have had a few guys on my team who self-rated as 4.0 and clearly weren't, and asking the USTA about moving them down was not productive. I'm not even sure what exists for that, but I think it's 100% on the player to jump through those hoops.

I also had an old neighbor who quit USTA because he was stuck at 4.5 and had declined as a player. He said they wouldn't let him move down.
There have been a few guys in our section who have been moved down as they age and also at least one guy who struggled at his current rating who was bumped down.
Why would ratings being frozen from this year result in plenty of above range players in each rating group?
When was it annouced that ratings were frozen? My league coordinator says our section has not made that decision. Why did we resume play if the matches were not going to count?
I haven't heard much about frozen ratings, but there's going to be a lot less league matches being rated this year compared to past years. Spring ONE season and Summer league season were both wiped out, and we only played got in 75% of the Winter season. Who knows how Fall will play out.
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
It's much more likely matches will count but as someone said they might skip publishing ratings this year. It's got to be a nation wide decision I'd think. I don't see how one Section could decide to bump people while another doesn't do anything. I just hope we hear something soon instead of them waiting until November to say something. I know around here there will be plenty of matches for them to count come year end to do ratings as usual if they choose.
 
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MRfStop

Hall of Fame
I know of someone who received a letter from USTA and told him that he was at risk of getting bumped down
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
Come to think of it, I did know a guy who got asked to appeal down, well sort of. He was early 30s and had recently finished up a career ranked just inside the ATP top 200, and had a solid last run on the challenger circuit. He moved to Dallas and thought he would be ineligible for USTA league. But then he got a letter from the USTA LLC in Dallas saying that they were building a 4.0 team to make a run at nationals and asking if he would he play. Since the 5.0+ teams there were above his level, he self rated at 4.0 and joined their team.
 

BallBag

Semi-Pro
Come to think of it, I did know a guy who got asked to appeal down, well sort of. He was early 30s and had recently finished up a career ranked just inside the ATP top 200, and had a solid last run on the challenger circuit. He moved to Dallas and thought he would be ineligible for USTA league. But then he got a letter from the USTA LLC in Dallas saying that they were building a 4.0 team to make a run at nationals and asking if he would he play. Since the 5.0+ teams there were above his level, he self rated at 4.0 and joined their team.
At the very least, you have to be a retired top 10 to play 5.0 in Texas.
 
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