Hawaiian Grip?

[Ten_is]

There's no such thing as a Hawaiian grip. It's an extreme western and I wouldn't suggest anyone using it.

 

[Jonny S&V]

There's no such thing as a Hawaiian grip. It's an extreme western and I wouldn't suggest anyone using it.

Oh lord, you are denying a fact of tennis grips.

 

[paulfreda]

I always think of Beresetuegi when someone brings up the Hawaain FH. I remember his FH being about the best out there..... but that FH was something.

Stroke
Could you elaborate for me because I never saw Berasetegui play.
Did his FH have ....
Great spin ?
High aggressive bounce
Heavy ball [spin & pace combined]
Great accuracy
High Consistency

How would you descibe his results using the Hawaiian grip ?
Thanks

 

[BreakPoint]

There's no such thing as a Hawaiian grip. It's an extreme western and I wouldn't suggest anyone using it.

Well, that's why it's called a "Hawaiian grip". If you think of the U.S., what is even further west than the Western Coast? Hawaii, of course!!

 

[Stroke]

Stroke
Could you elaborate for me because I never saw Berasetegui play.
Did his FH have ....
Great spin ?
High aggressive bounce
Heavy ball [spin & pace combined]
Great accuracy
High Consistency

How would you descibe his results using the Hawaiian grip ?
Thanks

It had all of those things. If you ever get a chance to see a replay of the 1994 French Open Final, it would be a great chance to see him. He lost to Brugera in 4 sets, but his FH was the biggest shot out there.

 

[JCo872]

Interesting. I don't recall ever seeing him play.

How did he handle low balls to the forehand side? Do you recall if he switched grips, or was he able to pick them up with such an extreme grip?

I have more video of him so I'll take a look. One thing to notice is how far his racket tilts downward on contact. I suspect that this is how he picks up low balls.

 

[paulfreda]

Low balls w Hawaiian grip

I have more video of him so I'll take a look. One thing to notice is how far his racket tilts downward on contact. I suspect that this is how he picks up low balls.

Yes, this is the technique for low balls.
The frame tip points to the ground.
Then you lift your arm for topspin and simultaneously flick your wrist to get it up over the net. Actually a pretty safe shot as it is almost impossible to fly it or hit it long from a ball at your ankles. So you can swing very hard and get wonderful top. But it will not go deep unless you really work to get it up.

Those who contend you cannot hit low balls well with a W or H grip, are stuck hitting with Eastern technique of solid wrist and little/no suppination. W and H grips require completely different arm/wrist motions.

 

[J011yroger]

Yes, this is the technique for low balls.
The frame tip points to the ground.
Then you lift your arm for topspin and simultaneously flick your wrist to get it up over the net. Actually a pretty safe shot as it is almost impossible to fly it or hit it long from a ball at your ankles. So you can swing very hard and get wonderful top. But it will not go deep unless you really work to get it up.

Those who contend you cannot hit low balls well with a W or H grip, are stuck hitting with Eastern technique of solid wrist and little/no suppination. W and H grips require completely different arm/wrist motions.

Yup Yup. It is not that Western players cant hit low balls, it is that it is difficult to DRIVE them. As a fairly accomplished western player, I can whip back knee level balls with heavy top all day long. And once they start to get around waist level then I can drive the ball, and put some serious hurt on it.

But as far as making errors on low ball, or just not being able to hit them, you are talking about making 95% of low balls vs 99% of high balls.

J

 

[Ten_is]

Well, that's why it's called a "Hawaiian grip". If you think of the U.S., what is even further west than the Western Coast? Hawaii, of course!!

Nah It's just Hawaii trying to make their name into tennis.
I use Canada grip myself. Way better for returns. - lol (just kidding*)