Head 360+ Extreme MP vs. Pure Aero / Extreme Tour / Blade 16x19 v7

Bruceh

New User
you are likely playing with a 16 or 17g string?
go 19 gauge cyclone. you'll have to order online, b/c your local shop won't have it, I don't think.


you can also stuff cotton balls in there as well.

but the thinner gauge strings will do a few things:
- lower static weight
- make it more headlight
- same playability, so it's a no brainer
it plays really well for me with 18L or 19!

stick with it, until you get it balanced right, once you get it to around 32 3/4 to 33 CM, you should be good.
worst case you remove almost all of the original grip, and you put some lead around the handle at the bottom.
then reapply the grip, which is super easy, then reapply your OG.
KIT
Thanks I’ve only played with demo which again has revolve and sensation.I assume 16 gauge . I will probably buy the racket in a few days. I prefer hyprids stringing so I will put cyclone in the mains 18 gauge and sensation in the crosses. I will string mains at 51 and crosses at 53. I will put three cotton balls in the butt cap as per your suggestion. I assume you like the MP over the tour as you didn’t answer. I am demoing the v core pro 100 this afternoon. It will be the last demo I try. Unless I’m blown away it’s the MP extreme as my new stick
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
Thanks I’ve only played with demo which again has revolve and sensation.I assume 16 gauge . I will probably buy the racket in a few days. I prefer hyprids stringing so I will put cyclone in the mains 18 gauge and sensation in the crosses. I will string mains at 51 and crosses at 53. I will put three cotton balls in the butt cap as per your suggestion. I assume you like the MP over the tour as you didn’t answer. I am demoing the v core pro 100 this afternoon. It will be the last demo I try. Unless I’m blown away it’s the MP extreme as my new stick

I explained my position on the tour vs. mp in the OP.
basically, the tour is a great control frame,
in my opinion it lacks stability at higher levels.
so it would need lead in the hoop at 3/9.
I don't do that, I just look for a stick that has the stability in the hoop, and then modify the balance by adding weight to the handle.

so I went with the MP.
the MP is head heavier, stable hoop.
so I go with light strings, and add weight to the handle and BAM, it's how I like it.
everyone needs to play around for a while before they know what's what, for THEM.

Keep us posted!
 

esm

Legend
So I think I have found a new twneer for now. I have only used the +EMP today for a 2.5 hour session at the club. I felt the throat was quite hollow at the start but with my setup, I think I am nearly there. It gave loads of spin and power when I hit in the right place, quite rewarding, even for a flat hitter. Lol - I can see the PA in it.

the modded L2 needs to go. I will replace with the L3 TK82 and L3 butt cap tomorrow and will have another session on Friday to further dial it in - I think I will keep the string job in for now, although they are only 2lb differences between the mains and crosses.

Next time I will do the usual 4lb differences and see if I can get abit more pocketing feel.
 

caesar66

Professional
Here to share the love for the +EMP. Background-I’m a 3.5 with a good serve, iffy OH backhand (use lots of slice), ok western forehand and decent volley. I mainly rely on my serve and hitting returns from inside the court, as well as a good deal of spin. I’ve been playing Technifibre 315 XTCs for around a year and love them, but wanted to try something different for kicks (still not sure if I’m even looking to switch). I was looking around for a Pure Aero and was offered the +EMP by a user here, and I’m glad I said yes.

I played a friend tonight who’s a high 3.5 with very consistent strokes-we tend to go three sets, and he’s like a backboard if you don’t switch things up.

I started with the +EMP and couldn’t find a groove. Some good shots here and there, but I read a great deal about how the racquet was a cannon and that you really have to go for shots to spin them in, so I think I was trying to overdo my grips and stroke style. Lost the first set 3-6, then switched back to the Technifibre, and took the second 6-4. I tweaked my knee (after forgetting my brace), but was happy with how I was playing after going back to my reg racquet and game. I picked up the extreme mp to give it another try, and *chef’s kiss*. I took the third 6-2, this time playing my regular game with the +EMP. Moral of the story, if a racquet has been described in terms that sound like it will fit your game, DON’T change your game-let the racquet work with it. Looking forward to hitting again with it (hopefully in doubles). I don’t think I was “honeymooning” with it as I was playing under pressure and with some pain, but need to give it another go to be sure. Still holding on to the Technifibres, but I had a great experience tonight. Lots of spin for my junk-ball game, and I served great.

*The EMP is strung with Solinco tour bite (not sure of gauge). One Technifibre has solinco revolution, the other hyper g, both 16g. The 315s are 12.5 oz with leather grips. I added lead under the grip of the +EMP to bring it to 12.0 oz and bring the swingweight closer to the 315s.

**I’ll add that I came back to tennis around a year and a half ago; at the time was playing a Wilson BLX pro open. I had a few rough matches and blamed the racquet before embarking on a racquet quest, which ended with the technifibres. Obviously the issue was with me, not the racquet. The +EMP is VERY similar spec-wise to the Pro Open (very underrated racquet). I feel a bit like I’ve gone full circle!
 
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esm

Legend
Here to share the love for the +EMP. Background-I’m a 3.5 with a good serve, iffy OH backhand (use lots of slice), ok western forehand and decent volley. I mainly rely on my serve and hitting returns from inside the court, as well as a good deal of spin. I’ve been playing Technifibre 315 XTCs for around a year and love them, but wanted to try something different for kicks (still not sure if I’m even looking to switch). I was looking around for a Pure Aero and was offered the +EMP by a user here, and I’m glad I said yes.

I played a friend tonight who’s a high 3.5 with very consistent strokes-we tend to go three sets, and he’s like a backboard if you don’t switch things up.

I started with the +EMP and couldn’t find a groove. Some good shots here and there, but I read a great deal about how the racquet was a cannon and that you really have to go for shots to spin them in, so I think I was trying to overdo my grips and stroke style. Lost the first set 3-6, then switched back to the Technifibre, and took the second 6-4. I tweaked my knee (after forgetting my brace), but was happy with how I was playing after going back to my reg racquet and game. I picked up the extreme mp to give it another try, and *chef’s kiss*. I took the third 6-2, this time playing my regular game with the +EMP. Moral of the story, if a racquet has been described in terms that sound like it will fit your game, DON’T change your game-let the racquet work with it. Looking forward to hitting again with it (hopefully in doubles). I don’t think I was “honeymooning” with it as I was playing under pressure and with some pain, but need to give it another go to be sure. Still holding on to the Technifibres, but I had a great experience tonight. Lots of spin for my junk-ball game, and I served great.

*The EMP is strung with Solinco tour bite (not sure of gauge). One Technifibre has solinco revolution, the other hyper g, both 16g. The 315s are 12.5 oz with leather grips. I added lead under the grip of the +EMP to bring it to 12.0 oz and bring the swingweight closer to the 315s.

**I’ll add that I came back to tennis around a year and at the time was playing a Wilson BLX pro open. I had a few rough matches and blamed the racquet before embarking on a racquet quest, which ended with the technifibres. Obviously the issue was with me, not the racquet. The +EMP is VERY similar spec-wise to the Pro Open (very underrated racquet). I feel a bit like I’ve gone full circle!
good post - thanks for sharing. i can relate to the above.
i hope it is not a honeymoon period for me with the +EMP... i have only played half a handful times since we started our first lockdown last March, including yesterday's sessions. prior to the first lockdown, i was using either Pure Strike 98 16m (Gen 1) or Blade 98 18m (2013)... i think it was a good idea to move onto a tweener 100sq in, and i think the +EMP is a good option. i felt it plays well if i give it a full swing - just need to dial in more and get better consistency, including "better" footwork (i am working on it.. after over 12+ months off).
anyway, i think i will leave everything as is for now as i have another session tomorrow - will see if it is still a honeymoon period.
my tinkered spec is 342g/33.5cm/a hair under 350SW (according to my kitchen scale/home made balance board & the Swing tool app) lol
 

caesar66

Professional
good post - thanks for sharing. i can relate to the above.
i hope it is not a honeymoon period for me with the +EMP... i have only played half a handful times since we started our first lockdown last March, including yesterday's sessions. prior to the first lockdown, i was using either Pure Strike 98 16m (Gen 1) or Blade 98 18m (2013)... i think it was a good idea to move onto a tweener 100sq in, and i think the +EMP is a good option. i felt it plays well if i give it a full swing - just need to dial in more and get better consistency, including "better" footwork (i am working on it.. after over 12+ months off).
anyway, i think i will leave everything as is for now as i have another session tomorrow - will see if it is still a honeymoon period.
my tinkered spec is 342g/33.5cm/a hair under 350SW (according to my kitchen scale/home made balance board & the Swing tool app) lol

Whew! That’s a log! You are a tougher person than me. I think that speaks to the versatility of the frame, though- my swingweight is probably 315-17, and yours is way higher, but the qualities of the frame are still present for both. This thing seems like a real sleeper.
 

edelp

Semi-Pro
good post - thanks for sharing. i can relate to the above.
i hope it is not a honeymoon period for me with the +EMP... i have only played half a handful times since we started our first lockdown last March, including yesterday's sessions. prior to the first lockdown, i was using either Pure Strike 98 16m (Gen 1) or Blade 98 18m (2013)... i think it was a good idea to move onto a tweener 100sq in, and i think the +EMP is a good option. i felt it plays well if i give it a full swing - just need to dial in more and get better consistency, including "better" footwork (i am working on it.. after over 12+ months off).
anyway, i think i will leave everything as is for now as i have another session tomorrow - will see if it is still a honeymoon period.
my tinkered spec is 342g/33.5cm/a hair under 350SW (according to my kitchen scale/home made balance board & the Swing tool app) lol

Hey sounds interesting. But isn´t 350SW quite something? how can you guys move this consistently specially if you mention foot work after being out for a while should be better? Anyhow want to try and compare this +EMP to my beloved +SMP :)
 
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Ryebread

Hall of Fame
I'm 8 days into this experiment.

The (slightly modified) EMP is now my primary racquet!
I'm not going to buy a 2nd one right now, b/c that is a curse for me.
For a 2nd stick (over the past several months) - by the time it's ready... get it and string it, I am typically coming out of the honeymoon phase : ( I'm a HOLIC!

I am shocked that I can have the put away power (for when I want/need it), while also having pretty good control (have to brush up on the ball a bit, which is fine).

I just restrung my Blade at 51, and Gravity Tour at 49 - fresh strings, and they make me feel soooo sluggish now. B/C of how I feel with the lighter EMP.
With these heavier control frames, I feel like I'm just trading blows - instead of punishing the ball.
 
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esm

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Hey sounds interesting. But isn´t 350SW quite something? how can you guys move this consistently specially if you mention foot work after being out for a while should be better? Anyhow want to try and compare this +EMP to my beloved +SMP :)
Lol. Yeah you are right. It has been a difficult “journey” so far back to the court/groove/training muscle memory again after 12+ months out.
in the past week, I found muscles and bits I have not used in a long long time. I am almost 10 hours in since we are able to play again (since last Monday). My footwork is getting used to the court movement, especially I think I have finally broken in the Barricade Boost.
anyway, had another session with the +EMP this arvo (about 1.5 hours drilling session), without any spec changes since Wednesday’s session, except a different OG (more absorbent)... now I don’t think it was a honeymoon period and I am pretty certain that I. Am. Switching.
(I will start looking for no.2)

now... more importantly, where is my green curry delivery? Lol

have a good weekend all
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
No matter what I do, I have always been coming back to the EMP.
I was playing with a VCORE 98 (2021 v6) for 2 1/2 days. But went back to the EMP today mid of 1st set.

I still can't get over how it feels so comfortable, for a 66 RA.
And I can get so much zing on the ball, when I cover it properly.

Even with the two OG and some weight in the handle, it's still so maneuverable at 325 grams and 33.00 CM balance.

Very glad to find this unique racquet.
MORE control than the PA. But similar power/spin. Crazy.
Again, just needed some TLC to get the balance corrected.
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
No matter what I do, I have always been coming back to the EMP.
I was playing with a VCORE 98 (2021 v6) for 2 1/2 days. But went back to the EMP today mid of 1st set.

I still can't get over how it feels so comfortable, for a 66 RA.
And I can get so much zing on the ball, when I cover it properly.

Even with the two OG and some weight in the handle, it's still so maneuverable at 325 grams and 33.00 CM balance.

Very glad to find this unique racquet.
MORE control than the PA. But similar power/spin. Crazy.
Again, just needed some TLC to get the balance corrected.

The control is the surprising part. I think the secret is starting to get out on the EMP.
 

esm

Legend
had another club session this evening with the +EMP - the string is now into the 7th hour and i can feel it is starting to move quite abit....
anyway, it played rather well still, IMO. no dampener, the it sounded rather nice too.
i decided to change the L2 handle to a new L3 pallet and butt cap over the weekend - i felt it played abit better than my previous L2 setup. it was an easy process and quite pleased to have done it.
i should have another 3 sessions until i have to probably take a 2-week break (self-inflected reasons), so look forward to log more hours with it. i will probably use the current string for another session and then restring it for the remaining 2 sessions.
anyway, the second +EMP is enroute, and i damn made sure that i got the correct L3 this time. lol
 

Ryebread

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had another club session this evening with the +EMP - the string is now into the 7th hour and i can feel it is starting to move quite abit....
anyway, it played rather well still, IMO. no dampener, the it sounded rather nice too.
i decided to change the L2 handle to a new L3 pallet and butt cap over the weekend - i felt it played abit better than my previous L2 setup. it was an easy process and quite pleased to have done it.
i should have another 3 sessions until i have to probably take a 2-week break (self-inflected reasons), so look forward to log more hours with it. i will probably use the current string for another session and then restring it for the remaining 2 sessions.
anyway, the second +EMP is enroute, and i damn made sure that i got the correct L3 this time. lol

where did you get the new grip? I wonder if I should go up a size too. L3 is what I want. But they seem too small.
 

esm

Legend
where did you get the new grip? I wonder if I should go up a size too. L3 is what I want. But they seem too small.
The L3 pallets and butt cap are available online. I am in the UK and there are a few UK and EU retailers selling both the TK82 and TK82S pallets and butt caps.
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
The L3 pallets and butt cap are available online. I am in the UK and there are a few UK and EU retailers selling both the TK82 and TK82S pallets and butt caps.

Sorry. Replacement pallets are new to me. What is the difference between the two?

thx !
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
since I'm a holic.
I want to try something new.
I was thinking about the radical mp.
I tried it for an hour a few months ago.
I remember thinking the sweet spot is small!

and I remember it being lower powered than the extreme mp.

so I looked it up, and this seems crazy to me:

Untitled by ryan mac, on Flickr

radical mp 98 vs extreme mp 100
same power?
same sweet spot?
extreme has a more stable hoop
probably a little better RHS with the 98, but I really don't need that, the extreme mp is fast enough
perhaps a bit more control (mainly directional) from the RMP?
but I just can't imagine the sweet spot being the same!
thoughts?
 
Starting tomorrow, I will be playing with the Head 360+ Extreme MP.

Quick Summary on the Head 360+ Extreme:
The Extreme line is all about SPIN.
The MP is basically a Pure Aero. Both 100.
The Tour is a Pure Aero VS. Both 98. But the Tour was closer to a Blade, for me, but less stable.
There is an Extreme PRO, in Eu. That is the same mold as the MP.
The MP and PRO, have ridiculous spin, like the Pure Aero.
The Tour has far less spin, and is more of a control stick.

You are welcome to add anything to the thread regarding the Extreme 360+ MP or Tour, the MP vs. Tour. And obviously, please chime in with notes on the MP vs. the other sticks you have played with!

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Here is my story:

Primary racquet is Blade v7 16x19, 52/51 lbs, 18 gauge cyclone.
I pulled Blades out of a bunch, to find what I wanted, spec wise.
After going with 18 gauge (lightens the hoop) and only adding an overgrip:
Blade: 327 / 11.50 and 32.75 CM. Perfect for me.

I cheated on the Blade all of last week, when I only used a Pure Aero (current version)!
I am more of a control racquet guy. But I can add additional brushing up on the ball, to dial in a medium powered racquet (windshield wiper).
This is what I had to do with the PA. I was killing with the additional power and spin!
I was getting tons of free points on my serve, my 2HBH was dynamite, and I was putting tons of pressure on my advanced opponents... with the PA.
I was playing with 17 gauge cyclone, a heavy OG, and I put some weight in the handle:
Pure Aero: 330 / 11.64 and 33 cm balance

I was about to order a second one. And the very next day, started to get a little sore.
I always play 5x a week. So, it wasn't additional time on court.
After one week of hitting with the Pure Aero, I decided to put it down for this week.
The blade is very comfy, and doesn't have any weaknesses for me....
but I was seriously gelling with the PA.
I did some homework, and ended up purchasing the Extreme MP 360+.

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Extreme MP 360+, which on paper, is almost identical to the Pure Aero:
  1. Both are 300 gram unstrung
  2. 318 grams strung EMP, 317 grams for the PA
  3. 3pt HL EMP, 4pt HL PA
  4. 23/26/21 EMP, 23,26,23 PA, little more feel from the EMP perhaps!
  5. 66 RA for EMP, 67 RA for PA, good
  6. Both advertised as MEDIUM power
  7. Both want a fast, long swing
  8. 325 SW for EMP, 324 SW for PA, good
  9. Both have spin grommets
  10. Both racquets produce ridiculous amts of spin
  11. Both are 16x19 and 100 sq in.
Balance: the slightly heavier head in the EMP, gives me an additional 3 grams that I can add to the handle of the EMP, to get it more HL. Which for me, is good, I want to weight it up a bit anyhow, and get it close to 326/11.50/33cm.

The hoop is said to be more stable in the MP, than the Extreme Tour. Evidence is your beam size, balance, and weight, see below here. The Tour's hoop is very thin, and light.

The Extreme Tour 360+ is a VERY interesting stick. 305 grams unstrung. 6pts HL. 21/23/21. 318 SW. Low power. 16x19, 98". I did play with this a few times. It is more of a control stick, it's like a Blade with a little more pop. VERY tight 16x19. VERY headlight. I would have to add lead to the hoop. It was too unstable for me, against 4.5 and 5.0. Nice feel. And GREAT control. Pretty good spin, but no PA or no Extreme MP, though. x
Forehands were dialed in. I could swing ALL OUT. No put-away or extra gear, for little bit of extra, when you want it.
The tour is so head light, that my 2hbh suffers. With the PA or Blade, my 2hbh is super strong and effective.
Serve was good with the tour, but not like my Blade, and certainly not like the PA!
It got pushed around a bit vs. the more advanced opponents.
So it was obvious it needed more stability up top. I only modify with weight in the handle. Hence my go with the EMP, here.

So my plan was to get an on-spec MP. And then weigh the handle a bit, to reach where the PA was, and my Blade. Maybe come in a little lighter, which would be ok, this is a stable hoop.
All of the Extreme grips run small. So I went with two OG.
And I put 2 grams under the door. Here are the specs:

Strung with 17 Gauge poly
315 / 11.11 / 33.76 (same exact weight of the Tour, but way more head heavy/more stable)

Plus 1 heavy OG
320 / 11.29 / 33.56

Plus a light OG
324

Then I added about three grams under the door....

Final weigh-in for the Extreme 360+ MP:
326 / 11.50 and 33 cm balance


After these VERY minor tweaks to the new MP, I'll start with her tomorrow. Depending on how the balance feels, I should be done.


More notes on the Extreme Tour:
If one loves the tour, with all of that control, and need more stability, try adding 2 grams at both 3/9. Then add 2-4 grams under the door, to get your balance right.
For me, I was addicted to the additional madness I was creating with the Pure Aero. So I wanted that extra spin, that the MP generates, over the Tour.
And I was able to accept the fact that I would need to counter balance the head heavy MP, by adding the weight to the handle, which I have done.
The tour needs a little pop, so I would go 17 gauge normally or even 18, but then it just makes the stick ridiculously HL, and possibly less stable.
So I'd go 16g or 16L at around 49 or 50 lbs, with a lively string.
I did love this Tour, and if I always played with 3.5 or 4.0, I think the Tour would work well for me. Or if I was into using lead tape in the hoop.
It's a more comfortable Pure Aero VS, in my view. Very comfortable and easy to play with.

After adding two over grips, to fix the grip size issue. And two cotton balls under the door:

My Tour Demo:
324 / 11.43 and 32 1/10 cm balance


With the Extreme MP:

It's got the pop already. So I am thinking a more dead poly, at around 53 lbs.
But I went with Head Lynx Tour 17g 1.25, which is pretty lively, so I went with 54 in the mains and 53 in the crosses.
Lynx Tour has good tension maintenance. And has a VERY good spin rating!
I may go lower in tension a bit, if I can. But wanted to start out on the control side of the spectrum.
With two OG, and the slightly lower RA (vs. the PA) the EMP should be comfy enough for me.
I will play with it 5x this week. And will keep you posted on how this experience works out for me!

I feel that the tour or mp will work for many people, in stock form.
For the tinkerer?
Either can be modified to work for you.
Unstrung, the tour is 305 grams, 318 swing weight, low power, with above average spin potential. Better for flat hitters!
Unstrung, the mp is the 300 grams, 325 swing weight, medium power, with insane spin potential. Little more pop and plow. Better for those who hit with a fully modern swing.


FWIW Stuff:

I had my pick from several MPs and they were all in spec or very close to spec!!!

However, the grips are definitely all too small, not as advertised. I have only tested the tour and the MP. All too small. I have used over 45 racquets in the past year. I have never seen an issue across-the-board like this one. No big deal though.

YES I got gray overgrips for the MP. The pics are not showing you a new stick with an old ratty white OG. That is a NEW gray one! LOL.
And I even found gray finishing tape ;) someone else out there, will appreciate this... I hope.

Most of you are advanced and know what you're doing.
but for the noobs:

adding weight to the handle is easy:
either you temporarily remove the original grip, all the way down to near the final spot where it's attached... leave it attached!
put a few strips of lead tape to the handle all the way down just before the bottom.
You will cut a few 4 inch strips of the half-inch lead tape. Each strip will be 1 g.
AND/OR
opening the trap door with a tiny screw driver and putting in weight there, like cotton balls, silicone, putty, whatever.
easy to modify, nothing is permanent, or even visible.

the stock head butt cap is actually like 4 or 7 grams something like that. It is weighted to be the same weight of a sensored butt cap, which is brilliant.

Extreme Pro:
There is a pro version (in Eu, not USA) which is actually a 315 gram racquet, unstrung! 31.5 CM balance, 7pts HL! 332 grams strung, plus your OG, you're at 335, too much for me, even with all that HL.
So for now, the MP (with my subtle tweaks) is my Pro!
use the rf97a v13 because its such a control racket, may be heavy although if you know what your doing its a true treat.
 

esm

Legend
since I'm a holic.
I want to try something new.
I was thinking about the radical mp.
I tried it for an hour a few months ago.
I remember thinking the sweet spot is small!

and I remember it being lower powered than the extreme mp.

so I looked it up, and this seems crazy to me:

Untitled by ryan mac, on Flickr

radical mp 98 vs extreme mp 100
same power?
same sweet spot?
extreme has a more stable hoop
probably a little better RHS with the 98, but I really don't need that, the extreme mp is fast enough
perhaps a bit more control (mainly directional) from the RMP?
but I just can't imagine the sweet spot being the same!
thoughts?
interesting - could it be the difference in the string age/set up between the two? wondering how you'd feel if all things are equal?
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
interesting - could it be the difference in the string age/set up between the two? wondering how you'd feel if all things are equal?

just grabbed a demo from my guy

will restring it today and try it at 3pm!

but we do know this
No spin grommets
Tighter string pattern
There is no way it has the same power!!!

----
edit/the demo they gave me, was an S, not the MP. so I have to go back. I don't think they have an MP available right now.
will have to wait a few days.
:( holic sad
 
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I felt the neon yellow Head Hydro base grip decompresses too much.
I will compare it against the new L3 when it arrives and see.
I am very temped to change it to my go-to Karakal PU super grip.. will compare first and see anyway.
(Had club training/practice session this arvo, and I am still liking the +EMP)
 

dgoran

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We really need to add ezone 100 to this thread I really feel its the best of its kind. I felt that it was more comfortable more controlled easier to play with than pa or emp
 

esm

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We really need to add ezone 100 to this thread I really feel its the best of its kind. I felt that it was more comfortable more controlled easier to play with than pa or emp
Funny you mentioned that - I was looking at the EZone 100 last night (I wasn’t drunk.. lol)... but I decided to leave it along and wait patiently for my 2nd +EMP to arrive and then I will try my absolutely best to stick with these two for awhile..... these two +EMP are the latest 22nd & 23rd racquets I have acquired since the first lock down in March last year....
Let’s see how long this will last.. hahaha
 

Ryebread

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Funny you mentioned that - I was looking at the EZone 100 last night (I wasn’t drunk.. lol)... but I decided to leave it along and wait patiently for my 2nd +EMP to arrive and then I will try my absolutely best to stick with these two for awhile..... these two +EMP are the latest 22nd & 23rd racquets I have acquired since the first lock down in March last year....
Let’s see how long this will last.. hahaha

great I’m not the only one!
 
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Bruceh

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the grip3 on my extreme mp is actually a full grip size too small, measured it today, now that I have another grip3 here to compare it with.

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I will string the RadMP tonight and try it monday
I played two weeks with the radMP before buying the Extreme MP. Great Racquet a bit more control then extreme and better at the net but you won’t get the spin and easy power on your serves. My Extteme felt heavy this morning with the three cotton balls under butt. Some days it feels light it’s my age I guess. Pulled out a prince beast 98 0 port that I just bought brand new for $ 50 and it felt like a 285 gram racquet even though it weighs the same .
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
I played two weeks with the radMP before buying the Extreme MP. Great Racquet a bit more control then extreme and better at the net but you won’t get the spin and easy power on your serves. My Extteme felt heavy this morning with the three cotton balls under butt. Some days it feels light it’s my age I guess. Pulled out a prince beast 98 0 port that I just bought brand new for $ 50 and it felt like a 285 gram racquet even though it weighs the same .

how about power and spin on your strokes?
 

Bruceh

New User
how about power and spin on your strokes?
The prince O port beast textreme gives you a lot of power it’s a much better racquet then the 100 beast the one I got was strung at 50/48 so if you don’t put topspin it flies. It’s much better at the net then the extreme which I find a wet noodle at the net. People say the tour is great at the net.The radical MP 360+will give you power but not spin like the extreme. I actually like the beast over the radical for a 98 racket
 

esm

Legend
The 2nd +EMP turned up this arvo.
I will leave it for now and to tinker/match/string it when I have to take a two week break from next week.
looks like I will be able to fit 3 racquets in the bag. :love: Lol

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markus666

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What is your favorite string for the +EMP?
I ve kirschbaum pro line evolution 1.25, head lynx tour 1.25 and tier one fire wire 1.20 at home
 

Bruceh

New User
The 2nd +EMP turned up this arvo.
I will leave it for now and to tinker/match/string it when I have to take a two week break from next week.
looks like I will be able to fit 3 racquets in the bag. :love: Lol

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What do you do to tinker with the racket and what tension and string do you use. I put three cotton balls under the butt to make it more headlight and been using babolot rpm power and excel hybrid because I got some free samples of it. I have it strung 48/51. Excel strings in crosses move a lot bit pretty good control especially on serves
 

esm

Legend
What do you do to tinker with the racket and what tension and string do you use. I put three cotton balls under the butt to make it more headlight and been using babolot rpm power and excel hybrid because I got some free samples of it. I have it strung 48/51. Excel strings in crosses move a lot bit pretty good control especially on serves
I firstly used fullbed of Angell Halo 3 at 52/50, then added 2g at 2”, 8g at 7” and 11g at 23” w/ 0.70mm OG.
then I changed from L2 to L3 with not much/major adjustments, then I changed to fullbed of Pro’s Pro Torpedo at 52/50. Felt too soft and too much power, then strung the same string again at 56/54 (all one-piece) - I think it is currently at its sweet spot for me.
 

Bruceh

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I firstly used fullbed of Angell Halo 3 at 52/50, then added 2g at 2”, 8g at 7” and 11g at 23” w/ 0.70mm OG.
then I changed from L2 to L3 with not much/major adjustments, then I changed to fullbed of Pro’s Pro Torpedo at 52/50. Felt too soft and too much power, then strung the same string again at 56/54 (all one-piece) - I think it is currently at its sweet spot for me.
not sure where you live but theses strings I’ve never seen at tenniswearhouse plus adding 20’gramd of lead to different parts of the racket seem a bit unusual but whatever works for you
 
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Ryebread

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My slightly modified Extreme MP:
grip size is wrong, so it required two OG
324.5 / 32.85 CM, with 2 OG, an O dampener, and a little weight just inside the door (to move the balance, just 2 grams or less IIRC)

Radical MP
I just strung her up! Will make her debut tomorrow at 12pm.
301 / 31.9 with plastic wrapper on grip
299 / 32 bare bones
312 / 32.8 strung 19g poly tour bite
317 / 32.6 one OG
Static and Balance are good enough that I can play with heavier strings and or add weight.

I'll check the SW early this week, on both
 
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Wheelz

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We really need to add ezone 100 to this thread I really feel its the best of its kind. I felt that it was more comfortable more controlled easier to play with than pa or emp
Curious if you have compared it to the Vcore 100?
 
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esm

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not sure where you live but theses strings I’ve never seen at tenniswearhouse plus adding 20’gramd of lead to different parts of the racket seem a bit unusual but whatever works for you
In the UK and yes, my wife thinks I am weird sometimes.
 

dgoran

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Curious if you have compared it to the Vcore 100?
I did both were good ezone felt slightly more controlled when hitting even slightly more flexible at the throat where vcore was muted and evenly rigid throughout. Both good think pure drive vs pure Aero type differences
 

dgoran

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Strangely I did not gel with extreme mp at all. Did nothing well for me. Aeropro was years ahead for example.
 
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Ryebread

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Strangely I did not gel with extreme mp at all. Did nothing well for me. Aeropro was years ahead for example.

so where does that leave you?
are you loveless right now?
sorry it didn't work out.
lots of fish in the sea!

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My EMP has 55/54 19g cyclone in it.
nice power, great pocketing.
I'm about three weeks in to stringing myself at home.
I feel that my 55/54 is = 53/52 if a shop handles it.

My Radical MP, I put in 19g at 53/52 and it was WAY less power
and zero pocketing.
drills, rallied hard, and a set.
no pop.
after an hour and a half, I put it down.
got out the EMP and it felt very good.

took two hour break.

went back out
played the first hour with the EMP, felt good.
then played a half hour with the RMP, and it felt better now.
I have some hope, now.
But still way more control and less pop.
different opponent, very.

I think I may cut out this string and go again at 51/49, this is probably = 49/48 at a shop.
The Radical MP may be on of those sticks that shines with low tension?
 
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esm

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so where does that leave you?
are you loveless right now?
sorry it didn't work out.
lots of fish in the sea!

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My EMP has 55/54 19g cyclone in it.
nice power, great pocketing.
I'm about three weeks in to stringing myself at home.
I feel that my 55/54 is = 53/52 if a shop handles it.

My Radical MP, I put in 19g at 53/52 and it was WAY less power
and zero pocketing.
drills, rallied hard, and a set.
no pop.
after an hour and a half, I put it down.
got out the EMP and it felt very good.

took two hour break.

went back out
played the first hour with the EMP, felt good.
then played a half hour with the RMP, and it felt better now.
I have some hope, now.
But still way more control and less pop.
different opponent, very.

I think I may cut out this string and go again at 51/49, this is probably = 49/48 at a shop.
The Radical MP may be on of those sticks that shines with low tension?
What makes you to think the shop ref tension is/will be lower than yours?
 

Bruceh

New User
so where does that leave you?
are you loveless right now?
sorry it didn't work out.
lots of fish in the sea!

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My EMP has 55/54 19g cyclone in it.
nice power, great pocketing.
I'm about three weeks in to stringing myself at home.
I feel that my 55/54 is = 53/52 if a shop handles it.

My Radical MP, I put in 19g at 53/52 and it was WAY less power
and zero pocketing.
drills, rallied hard, and a set.
no pop.
after an hour and a half, I put it down.
got out the EMP and it felt very good.

took two hour break.

went back out
played the first hour with the EMP, felt good.
then played a half hour with the RMP, and it felt better now.
I have some hope, now.
But still way more control and less pop.
different opponent, very.

I think I may cut out this string and go again at 51/49, this is probably = 49/48 at a shop.
The Radical MP may be on of those sticks that shines with low tension?
I think I mentioned to you that babalot gave me a few sets of RPM power , Excel hybrid to try . I strung it at 48/51 but the excel in he crosses were moving around like crazy. RPM power does not snap back that well but it played ok. I spoke to tennis warehouse racket expert and he told me to restring it 48/46 I went 48/47 my local
Pro shop disagreed with TW suggestion but I did it anyway. Im curious why do you use 19 q strings. My pro sho doesn’t even carry 28G strings
 

Bruceh

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I think I mentioned to you that babalot gave me a few sets of RPM power , Excel hybrid to try . I strung it at 48/51 but the excel in he crosses were moving around like crazy. RPM power does not snap back that well but it played ok. I spoke to tennis warehouse racket expert and he told me to restring it 48/46 I went 48/47 my local
Pro shop disagreed with TW suggestion but I did it anyway. Im curious why do you use 19 q strings. My pro sho doesn’t even carry 28G strings
I meant 18 g it doesn’t even carry
 

Ryebread

Hall of Fame
What makes you to think the shop ref tension is/will be lower than yours?


I feel like when I string at 50 it’s the same as the shop’s 48. Was just a hunch. I may be getting better now..... possibly not losing tension anywhere, now.
 
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Ryebread

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I think I mentioned to you that babalot gave me a few sets of RPM power , Excel hybrid to try . I strung it at 48/51 but the excel in he crosses were moving around like crazy. RPM power does not snap back that well but it played ok. I spoke to tennis warehouse racket expert and he told me to restring it 48/46 I went 48/47 my local
Pro shop disagreed with TW suggestion but I did it anyway. Im curious why do you use 19 q strings. My pro sho doesn’t even carry 28G strings

I use 19g cyclone as my main squeeze

1. More comfy
2. More spin
3. Same power
4. Same or better tension maintenance
5. Helps make it more HL - primary reason*

I wouldn’t be able to play with many sticks otherwise.
 
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