Head 360+ Graphene Prestige MP vs Speed 360+ Graphene Pro.....

[Boredsurfer]

I love the feel and mass of the Prestige MP for serves and volleys and all-round buttery plushness BUT GOD DAMN I can crush grounds with the Speed Pro..... I am considering the switch. Anybody else experience this dilemma who pulled the trigger on a new Speed Pro? Any long-term regrets?

 

[GummiiBear]

Yes.

Edit: That was exactly my experience last year when I demoed racquets.

 

[Boredsurfer]

Any long-term regret on the move. Past the honeymoon has the Speed leveled up your game?

 

[Villain]

I’ve played a lot with the PMP, GP, and SP and I prefer the SP. Just a better all-around racquet for my game with a little more forgiveness than the PMP and a little more pop than the GP.

 

[WillGinRVA]

I'm going through a similar thing right now. The Speed Pro is the best racket I've played with, great power and great control and just the right launch angle for my eastern forehand. Mine has 295 swingweight unstrung and I use ALU Power 125 in it.

I'm still exploring a few more before calling quits on my search, the last remaining ones for me to try are:
Gravity Pro
Blade Pro 16x19
Prestige Tour
Prince TT100P

I've been through these over the past 1.5 years:
Blade CV 16x19
Blade v7 16x19
Blade CV 18x20
Blade v7 18x20
Clash 98
Ultra Tour (18x20)
Radical MP 2021
Prince TT95 (2015)
Prince Phantom 18x20 old one
VCore Pro 310 (blue/orange)
VCore HD (green)
VCore 98 old one
VCore 98 2021

 

[GummiiBear]

I also thought that, since I’m considerably older than the last time I’d played tennis prior, the Speed Pro technically should be a better pick for me. I figured, older, so lighter and larger head size makes sense.

I stuck with it for 8+ months and loved it, and I still do, no regrets. I underestimated, improved my game unexpectedly faster and more than I anticipated I could, and so my coach thought it might be a good idea to try other racquets after on a whim during one lesson I hit with my old Babolat Pure Control Team and he saw the difference? Or something like that.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not as though broadly speaking a “better” player would fit better with the PMP than the SP. I think with how my play style and strengths were seen more clearly, it fit with the VCP 97HD and PMP better. Funnily enough, during the second round of 90-day demoing I again found the PMP a contender; and my coach and I agreed it was a good fit. At least I’m consistent, haha.

Edit: Oh wait I just realized I misunderstood; I didn’t switch from the PMP to the Speed Pro, I chose the Speed over the Prestige as my new racquet, prior racquet was the Babolat from over a decade ago.

 

[Hit 'em clean]

I love the feel and mass of the MP for serves and volleys and all-round buttery plushness BUT GOD DAMN I can crush grounds with the Speed Pro..... I am considering the switch. Anybody else experience this dilemma who pulled the trigger on a new Speed Pro? Any long-term regrets?

It can take a little longer to adjust to served with Speed Pro, but it is excellent if you let the racquet mass rip through the ball. One of the best all around frames out there… and yes you can rip ground strokes. I haven’t been able to put it down and have no regrets. MP is good as well but just a little too light. Speed Pro hits a very heavy ball.

 

[beltsman]

It can take a little longer to adjust to served with Speed Pro, but it is excellent if you let the racquet mass rip through the ball. One of the best all around frames out there… and yes you can rip ground strokes. I haven’t been able to put it down and have no regrets. MP is good as well but just a little too light. Speed Pro hits a very heavy ball.

MP with a leather grip (and OG) is plenty hefty (for me).

 

[n8dawg6]

ive switched back to the speed pro so many times it makes my head spin. great blend of control and pop.

the speed MP is my darling, though. especially the old ones w the 22 mm beam.

 

[Alex7778]

Does the speed pro perform better on serve and on groundstrokes compared to a blade pro?

 

[Hit 'em clean]

I thought it did, but it really depends a bit on what your comfortable with form a static and swingweight perspective. Blade Pro to me was a bit like the Gravity Pro in that it was just a touch too heavy for my liking. My younger self would've been okay with it. It's just a personal thing on what works for you in terms of really generating rhs through the hitting zone. Speed Pro works great for me, plus it's more forgiving on flat and spin serves.

On ground strokes I found the Speed Pro had more pop and spin potential... again it was also more forgiving. Blade Pro is still a great frame, but you do need to be able to get it moving to get the real benefit from it. I just don't want to work that hard so the Speed Pro was a beautiful compromise to the Blade and Gravity Pros.

 

[Boredsurfer]

ive switched back to the speed pro so many times it makes my head spin. great blend of control and pop.

the speed MP is my darling, though. especially the old ones w the 22 mm beam.

Uh oh - new to the line. There was a 22 mm beam version.......? Oh snap! Deets please!

 

[n8dawg6]

Uh oh - new to the line. There was a 22 mm beam version.......? Oh snap! Deets please!

yeah, the original graphene, xt, and touch models all had a 22mm beam. with the 360 they switched to a 23mm beam.

the molds are still similar, but the 360 and 360+ both feel a bit more stable and a bit more chunky to me.

 

[Evobacsi]

I'm going through a similar thing right now. The Speed Pro is the best racket I've played with, great power and great control and just the right launch angle for my eastern forehand. Mine has 295 swingweight unstrung and I use ALU Power 125 in it.

I'm still exploring a few more before calling quits on my search, the last remaining ones for me to try are:
Gravity Pro
Blade Pro 16x19
Prestige Tour
Prince TT100P

I've been through these over the past 1.5 years:
Blade CV 16x19
Blade v7 16x19
Blade CV 18x20
Blade v7 18x20
Clash 98
Ultra Tour (18x20)
Radical MP 2021
Prince TT95 (2015)
Prince Phantom 18x20 old one
VCore Pro 310 (blue/orange)
VCore HD (green)
VCore 98 old one
VCore 98 2021

I've used my Speed Pro twice now, loving it, sold my blade v7. I want to try speed mp and radical mp next, what did you think about the radical mp? can you compare it to the speed pro?

 

[WillGinRVA]

I've used my Speed Pro twice now, loving it, sold my blade v7. I want to try speed mp and radical mp next, what did you think about the radical mp? can you compare it to the speed pro?

Just for reference my Speed Pro has a 295 swingweight and my Radical MP has 293. So pretty similar in SW, though the Speed Pro being larger and 18x20, the difference gets a little larger once strung.

The Radical MP is definitely more like the Blade v7 16x19 than it is the Speed Pro. Compared to the Speed Pro, the Radical has a higher launch angle, higher and smaller sweet spot, less free power, and in my opinion a less "pure" feel when hitting the ball. I think it has a slightly longer handle though, which is good for 2HBH. Spin might be a bit greater on the Radical as well, but not hugely different.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

I love the feel and mass of the Prestige MP for serves and volleys and all-round buttery plushness BUT GOD DAMN I can crush grounds with the Speed Pro..... I am considering the switch. Anybody else experience this dilemma who pulled the trigger on a new Speed Pro? Any long-term regrets?

Both are fantastic racquets... the only thing that takes time to get used to with the SP for me is serving. I have the G360+ PMP, SP, and GP... and serving with the SP is the hardest for me. I'm working on it though as it is amazing everywhere else. Great on groundies, volleys, touch, angles, drop shots are so good I sometimes have to laugh. All three are staying in my collection. The PMP+ is the most precise of the three, but it is also the lowest powered (and all my racquets have been modified to around 355-360g strung depending on strings).

So, no regrets... only more work to make things even better.

 

[J-Wildcard]

Both are fantastic racquets... the only thing that takes time to get used to with the SP for me is serving. I have the G360+ PMP, SP, and GP... and serving with the SP is the hardest for me. I'm working on it though as it is amazing everywhere else. Great on groundies, volleys, touch, angles, drop shots are so good I sometimes have to laugh. All three are staying in my collection. The PMP+ is the most precise of the three, but it is also the lowest powered (and all my racquets have been modified to around 355-360g strung depending on strings).

So, no regrets... only more work to make things even better.

I found the gravity pro hard to serve with compared to the PMP, i think the balance was a factor but just felt pretty different. I am keen to try a speed pro, I have most the previous version prestige mp frames and use a IGPMP but am looking for a bit more power and slightly bigger sweetspot( I found my backhand improved with the gravity Pro so maybe the bigger head helped on that wing?) but still want the comfort if possible.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

I found the gravity pro hard to serve with compared to the PMP, i think the balance was a factor but just felt pretty different. I am keen to try a speed pro, I have most the previous version prestige mp frames and use a IGPMP but am looking for a bit more power and slightly bigger sweetspot( I found my backhand improved with the gravity Pro so maybe the bigger head helped on that wing?) but still want the comfort if possible.

Maybe the shape of the GPs head affects you? My GP was modified to be more HL than stock, so that may play a part with the manoeuvrability on serve.

The SP has a more similar head shape to the Prestige, however, the thicker beam at the top might have been what was making it harder for me on the serve (I had to change the grip on my second serves and impart more spin than I usually do... but the same thing was happening to me with my PD Roddick years ago, and the same change made it all good - served some vicious serves with that racquet).

The SP is more muted, IMO and experience, than the GP or PMP, but if that's not an issue for you (or you can change that with string choice - crisp it up a bit), then it should be a great racquet. Definitely worth a demo.

 

[Wheelz]

Maybe the shape of the GPs head affects you? My GP was modified to be more HL than stock, so that may play a part with the manoeuvrability on serve.

The SP has a more similar head shape to the Prestige, however, the thicker beam at the top might have been what was making it harder for me on the serve (I had to change the grip on my second serves and impart more spin than I usually do... but the same thing was happening to me with my PD Roddick years ago, and the same change made it all good - served some vicious serves with that racquet).

The SP is more muted, IMO and experience, than the GP or PMP, but if that's not an issue for you (or you can change that with string choice - crisp it up a bit), then it should be a great racquet. Definitely worth a demo.

Which speed pro ? I find the 360 crisp but I guess that is based on what I tried before. I read that the newer version is not as crisp.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Which speed pro ? I find the 360 crisp but I guess that is based on what I tried before. I read that the newer version is not as crisp.

I have the G360+ SP... but I have also hit with the 360 for a very brief (10-15 mins) period at the end of a hitting session. I liked the 360, but the 360+ just came out and all the reviews were saying it was an improvement (plus I got a good discount for buying 2, plus discount code and promo code, etc), so I bought the all-black 360+.

I'm not sure about the Auxetic SP, as I haven't tried it. But, the dimensions are the same (beam thickness, etc), so I would expect them to feel similar when it comes to how they feel to swing and serve, etc (if the specs are as advertised for both 360+ and Auxetic versions - the feel is different from all accounts).

Hope that helps.

 

[Wheelz]

I have the G360+ SP... but I have also hit with the 360 for a very brief (10-15 mins) period at the end of a hitting session. I liked the 360, but the 360+ just came out and all the reviews were saying it was an improvement (plus I got a good discount for buying 2, plus discount code and promo code, etc), so I bought the all-black 360+.

I'm not sure about the Auxetic SP, as I haven't tried it. But, the dimensions are the same (beam thickness, etc), so I would expect them to feel similar when it comes to how they feel to swing and serve, etc (if the specs are as advertised for both 360+ and Auxetic versions - the feel is different from all accounts).

Hope that helps.

Tough to say no to the all black on discount! I had the 360 on big discount but still almost bought the all black.

 

[J-Wildcard]

Tough to say no to the all black on discount! I had the 360 on big discount but still almost bought the all black.

I saw the all black was on discount to 149euro but sold out now right at TWE. I still regret not getting an all black prestige 25th anniversary. But the standard paint 360+ is discounted a lot too I see.

 

[J-Wildcard]

Maybe the shape of the GPs head affects you? My GP was modified to be more HL than stock, so that may play a part with the manoeuvrability on serve.

The SP has a more similar head shape to the Prestige, however, the thicker beam at the top might have been what was making it harder for me on the serve (I had to change the grip on my second serves and impart more spin than I usually do... but the same thing was happening to me with my PD Roddick years ago, and the same change made it all good - served some vicious serves with that racquet).

The SP is more muted, IMO and experience, than the GP or PMP, but if that's not an issue for you (or you can change that with string choice - crisp it up a bit), then it should be a great racquet. Definitely worth a demo.

Yes, the way the weight was distributed in the frame may have been an issue, on paper 315balance etc and the specs, especially a nice nice thin beam are similar to the PMP but I thought the frame miles apart in handling for certain shots, certainly late adjustment of the racket with the GP was a problem for me.