Head Auxetic Extreme line update?

dr. godmode said:
Thanks for kind words! My friend is a Head Pro and has a new ET (he's an ET user) and said that "it's better," but wouldn't give me much more info than that sadly. His previous racquets of choice include the 1st gen Pure Strike, PS90, BLX Blade 93, IG Prestige Pro, so my hopes are high for the Auxetic.
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Sorry maybe off topic but how do you see the current ET compared to the boom pro?
 
Well I’m happy the tour is staying, I loved the 360+ I’m also happy they tightened the pattern ever so slightly on the mp, the power and launch angle is frankly more than a pure aero.
 
10sGearHead said:
Looks like this could be it - https://www.tradeinn.com/smashinn/e...8PgnUvX_-p8m6JiHdskaAgLCEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Kinda fugly, like the current better, but can't wait to see how auxetic works on this frame.
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Likewise... but I'll withhold final judgements until I see it in videos and in the natural light. So far, from the photos I've seen (and the one you showed there), the grey/green colour looks like something that came out of my dog's rear end... after he didn't enjoy his food... hopefully it doesn't smell like it too.

I am interested in how the auxetic will make the racquet feel, and what the general feedback might be. Hopefully, in due course, they put out a Nite version (or some other Special colour - Darth Vader maybe) that looks much better.

I'm supplied with Tour Nites, the regular colour ET, and 2 G360+ EPs... so I'm set for a while, and unless the difference is earth-shattering or much more plush (which I don't expect it to be), I'll stay put with my G360+ ET and EP stash.
 
Return_Ace said:
Your table is comparing a 360+ MP vs. a 360 Pro, so the specs aren't really comparable.

And then the 360+ Tour isn't really comparable to the Pro since it's a different mold/target audience etc.
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-ahh yeah, you are correct!!
-i just ran a much broader search and found the UK version (360+ PRO) you mentioned
-thats what messed me up
-then im even more glad/lucky i got to try the US version 360.PROS i got,
-i will provably peek/demo the 2022 h.extreme.TOUR when it comes out !?!?
 
10sGearHead said:
Looks like this could be it - https://www.tradeinn.com/smashinn/e...8PgnUvX_-p8m6JiHdskaAgLCEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Kinda fugly, like the current better, but can't wait to see how auxetic works on this frame.
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You are right.. the photos looks sooo bad.. but it didn't seem so bad when Berettini was holding it so I'm hoping that it looks better in person.


Now the big question is Extreme Tour or the MP... Would take the Pro but it doesn't seem to be available in the US
 
Classic-TXP-IG MID said:
Likewise... but I'll withhold final judgements until I see it in videos and in the natural light. So far, from the photos I've seen (and the one you showed there), the grey/green colour looks like something that came out of my dog's rear end... after he didn't enjoy his food... hopefully it doesn't smell like it too.

I am interested in how the auxetic will make the racquet feel, and what the general feedback might be. Hopefully, in due course, they put out a Nite version (or some other Special colour - Darth Vader maybe) that looks much better.

I'm supplied with Tour Nites, the regular colour ET, and 2 G360+ EPs... so I'm set for a while, and unless the difference is earth-shattering or much more plush (which I don't expect it to be), I'll stay put with my G360+ ET and EP stash.
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It seems to be the case that the Auxetic technology makes the racket a lot more plush. I have the 360+ and I wouldn't say that it is a stiff racket but I do notice that if I play every single day for like a week sometimes my arms do hurt. But i have the MP and MPs are more stiffer than the Tour
 
DontQuixote said:
It seems to be the case that the Auxetic technology makes the racket a lot more plush. I have the 360+ and I wouldn't say that it is a stiff racket but I do notice that if I play every single day for like a week sometimes my arms do hurt. But i have the MP and MPs are more stiffer than the Tour
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Well, some people said that they could feel a difference between the Auxetic and G360+ Prestiges... and some couldn't (at least not big enough to make a switch), there is more consensus that the Auxetic has made a difference to the Speeds (but from what I could tell, it sounded like the racquet was crisper and less muted... and that's what the people liked)... I'll have to try that one for myself and compare it to my G360+ SPs (as that is the only way to know for yourself), and we haven't had any more Auxetic versions... until the Extreme arrives.

So, for me, Auxetic sounds like a mixed bag... and something that I will have to demo and try for myself. I might wait until they are all out... then demo then all at once and see if any are worth buying (and then just pick the best of the bunch - SP or GP or ET/EP or RMP/RP).
 
I am very happy with Auxetic tech in the 2022 Speed MP. While I don’t think I will stick with the Speed long term, I think the new tech will be great in the ET. To me the 360+ ET needed to be a tad softer, less muted, and have more polarized weight distribution - 320-325 stock swingweight with same 305 weight and 31.5 balance, and slightly lower twist weight.
 
gutfeeling said:
I am very happy with Auxetic tech in the 2022 Speed MP. While I don’t think I will stick with the Speed long term, I think the new tech will be great in the ET. To me the 360+ ET needed to be a tad softer, less muted, and have more polarized weight distribution - 320-325 stock swingweight with same 305 weight and 31.5 balance, and slightly lower twist weight.
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How big is the difference for you between 360+ Speed MP and Auxetic Speed MP? Did Auxetic change this frame from "not for me" to "I love it, absolutely"?
 
Tythox said:
So, I've found the new extreme in some random page (I bought 2 racquets in that page early this year, so it's legit). There aren't any specs yet, but there are photos (mp, tour, mp L, and team L). I won't give the name of the page, and I converted the photo of auxetic extreme to black and white because I don't want to get in any trouble (if I'am let me know so I can delete this :-D). I'm not even sure on how accurate this "analysis" is, but it seems that they have tightened the mains for the MP.

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Wow, nice job man!
 
tomkowy said:
How big is the difference for you between 360+ Speed MP and Auxetic Speed MP? Did Auxetic change this frame from "not for me" to "I love it, absolutely"?
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I’ve only hit the Auxetic Speed MP. Noticeably different than the 360+ ET. Softer and less muted. I like it a lot but I’m not sure if the 300 gram, 32 cm spec is for me. It feels a little sluggish coming through the slot on the forehand. I’m going to try it again at the 305/31.5 spec like the ET to see if it swings better.
 
The 360+ feel in the Extreme was very good. It was a close second to the 360+ Prestige. The only thing it needed was “slightly” tighter mains, similar to the way Head widened the 360 Speed Pro string pattern. It’s probably good enough as-is, as long as you stay up on the stringing. I won some tough matches with it, but when the strings loosened, it would get launchy. Hopefully the Auxetic Extreme keeps the same feel.
 
I hit twice this weekend (about 5 hours total) with the Head Extreme Tour Auxetic (ETA), strung with a full bed of ALU Power at 53lbs (probably 1.25 but not sure). My experience with the Head Graphene 360+ Extreme Tour (ET) model is limited to roughly 20-40 hours of play, having demoed it previously and deciding not purchase it. In my limited experience, I've found the two models to be very similar, with the ETA being more comfortable overall, especially on off center contact with the ball.

My biggest complaint about the ET is the harsh feeling of hitting the ball off center / outside of the sweet spot. The Auxetic material in the ETA has noticeably improved this issue. The ETA was responsive enough to alert me the ball was hit off center, but not in the jarring, "I just hit a baseball pitch at the end of the bat" kind of way, as is true with the ET.

My second biggest complaint about the ET is that it's slightly underpowered. Before hitting with the ETA, I was concerned the ETA was going to feel even less powerful than the ET due to the reduced CPI rating. (ETA = 400cpi, ET = 500cpi). However, when playing with the ETA, I failed to notice a significant difference in power between the two frames. If anything, I felt the ETA was more powerful, but this could be due to other variables. The point is, I didn't find the ETA to be less powerful than the ET, or underpowered at all for that matter.

The lack of stability / plow through often associated with ET is present in the ETA as well, particularly against bigger balls. If I end up buying the ETA, I would experiment with adding weight to improve stability.

As for control, feel, and spin, I found the the models to be similar, which is to say very good. As I mentioned earlier, I have limited experience with both frames so I recommend you go try them out for yourselves and share your experience here.

Overall, the ETA is a fantastic racquet that I will strongly considered purchasing to replace my Pure Strike 16/19 3rd gen.

Main take away:
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic is more comfortable than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour, especially on off-centered shots.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic did not feel less powerful than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic also lacks stability / plow through against bigger balls.
  • Try it for yourself and share your thoughts.
 
InsideOut12 said:
I hit twice this weekend (about 5 hours total) with the Head Extreme Tour Auxetic (ETA), strung with a full bed of ALU Power at 53lbs (probably 1.25 but not sure). My experience with the Head Graphene 360+ Extreme Tour (ET) model is limited to roughly 20-40 hours of play, having demoed it previously and deciding not purchase it. In my limited experience, I've found the two models to be very similar, with the ETA being more comfortable overall, especially on off center contact with the ball.

My biggest complaint about the ET is the harsh feeling of hitting the ball off center / outside of the sweet spot. The Auxetic material in the ETA has noticeably improved this issue. The ETA was responsive enough to alert me the ball was hit off center, but not in the jarring, "I just hit a baseball pitch at the end of the bat" kind of way, as is true with the ET.

My second biggest complaint about the ET is that it's slightly underpowered. Before hitting with the ETA, I was concerned the ETA was going to feel even less powerful than the ET due to the reduced CPI rating. (ETA = 400cpi, ET = 500cpi). However, when playing with the ETA, I failed to notice a significant difference in power between the two frames. If anything, I felt the ETA was more powerful, but this could be due to other variables. The point is, I didn't find the ETA to be less powerful than the ET, or underpowered at all for that matter.

The lack of stability / plow through often associated with ET is present in the ETA as well, particularly against bigger balls. If I end up buying the ETA, I would experiment with adding weight to improve stability.

As for control, feel, and spin, I found the the models to be similar, which is to say very good. As I mentioned earlier, I have limited experience with both frames so I recommend you go try them out for yourselves and share your experience here.

Overall, the ETA is a fantastic racquet that I will strongly considered purchasing to replace my Pure Strike 16/19 3rd gen.

Main take away:
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic is more comfortable than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour, especially on off-centered shots.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic did not feel less powerful than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic also lacks stability / plow through against bigger balls.
  • Try it for yourself and share your thoughts.
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Hope it is indeed more powerful, otherwise just a paintjob. Tbh my Nite is more beautiful!
 
What do you guys think of a RADICAL S player switching to Extreme Tour ?
Should I wait for the ETA or should I buy the ET ? I meant it's discounted on the website atm.
 
ChanTen said:
What do you guys think of a RADICAL S player switching to Extreme Tour ?
Should I wait for the ETA or should I buy the ET ? I meant it's discounted on the website atm.
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If you don't mind the colors and extra price. I think the comfort of the Auxetic tech is worth it. Can probably always wait for both to be out and test them side by side. I don't think the old extremes selling out anytime soon.
 
InsideOut12 said:
I hit twice this weekend (about 5 hours total) with the Head Extreme Tour Auxetic (ETA), strung with a full bed of ALU Power at 53lbs (probably 1.25 but not sure). My experience with the Head Graphene 360+ Extreme Tour (ET) model is limited to roughly 20-40 hours of play, having demoed it previously and deciding not purchase it. In my limited experience, I've found the two models to be very similar, with the ETA being more comfortable overall, especially on off center contact with the ball.

My biggest complaint about the ET is the harsh feeling of hitting the ball off center / outside of the sweet spot. The Auxetic material in the ETA has noticeably improved this issue. The ETA was responsive enough to alert me the ball was hit off center, but not in the jarring, "I just hit a baseball pitch at the end of the bat" kind of way, as is true with the ET.

My second biggest complaint about the ET is that it's slightly underpowered. Before hitting with the ETA, I was concerned the ETA was going to feel even less powerful than the ET due to the reduced CPI rating. (ETA = 400cpi, ET = 500cpi). However, when playing with the ETA, I failed to notice a significant difference in power between the two frames. If anything, I felt the ETA was more powerful, but this could be due to other variables. The point is, I didn't find the ETA to be less powerful than the ET, or underpowered at all for that matter.

The lack of stability / plow through often associated with ET is present in the ETA as well, particularly against bigger balls. If I end up buying the ETA, I would experiment with adding weight to improve stability.

As for control, feel, and spin, I found the the models to be similar, which is to say very good. As I mentioned earlier, I have limited experience with both frames so I recommend you go try them out for yourselves and share your experience here.

Overall, the ETA is a fantastic racquet that I will strongly considered purchasing to replace my Pure Strike 16/19 3rd gen.

Main take away:
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic is more comfortable than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour, especially on off-centered shots.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic did not feel less powerful than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic also lacks stability / plow through against bigger balls.
  • Try it for yourself and share your thoughts.
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Then the Extreme MP auxetic might be a good solution
 
InsideOut12 said:
I hit twice this weekend (about 5 hours total) with the Head Extreme Tour Auxetic (ETA), strung with a full bed of ALU Power at 53lbs (probably 1.25 but not sure). My experience with the Head Graphene 360+ Extreme Tour (ET) model is limited to roughly 20-40 hours of play, having demoed it previously and deciding not purchase it. In my limited experience, I've found the two models to be very similar, with the ETA being more comfortable overall, especially on off center contact with the ball.

My biggest complaint about the ET is the harsh feeling of hitting the ball off center / outside of the sweet spot. The Auxetic material in the ETA has noticeably improved this issue. The ETA was responsive enough to alert me the ball was hit off center, but not in the jarring, "I just hit a baseball pitch at the end of the bat" kind of way, as is true with the ET.

My second biggest complaint about the ET is that it's slightly underpowered. Before hitting with the ETA, I was concerned the ETA was going to feel even less powerful than the ET due to the reduced CPI rating. (ETA = 400cpi, ET = 500cpi). However, when playing with the ETA, I failed to notice a significant difference in power between the two frames. If anything, I felt the ETA was more powerful, but this could be due to other variables. The point is, I didn't find the ETA to be less powerful than the ET, or underpowered at all for that matter.

The lack of stability / plow through often associated with ET is present in the ETA as well, particularly against bigger balls. If I end up buying the ETA, I would experiment with adding weight to improve stability.

As for control, feel, and spin, I found the the models to be similar, which is to say very good. As I mentioned earlier, I have limited experience with both frames so I recommend you go try them out for yourselves and share your experience here.

Overall, the ETA is a fantastic racquet that I will strongly considered purchasing to replace my Pure Strike 16/19 3rd gen.

Main take away:
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic is more comfortable than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour, especially on off-centered shots.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic did not feel less powerful than the 360+ Graphene Extreme Tour.
  • The Extreme Tour Auxetic also lacks stability / plow through against bigger balls.
  • Try it for yourself and share your thoughts.
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What about the balance point? Is ETA friendly to one-handers? I hope they make it more headlight.
 
fayna_may_yode said:
What about the balance point? Is ETA friendly to one-handers? I hope they make it more headlight.
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The ET is already fairly headlight no? If they shifted any more weight towards the butt (assuming the same static weight) the power would be even more anemic than it already is. I think it needs a little more heft in the head, not less, but I hit a 2hbh so we likely have different preferences.
 
MattHeup said:
The ET is already fairly headlight no? If they shifted any more weight towards the butt (assuming the same static weight) the power would be even more anemic than it already is. I think it needs a little more heft in the head, not less, but I hit a 2hbh so we likely have different preferences.
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I agree completely. The ET is already one of the fastest swinging 98's on the market. If they decrease SW any further it will be completely useless stock (it's already pretty pathetic stock).
 
tomkowy said:
How big is the difference for you between 360+ Speed MP and Auxetic Speed MP? Did Auxetic change this frame from "not for me" to "I love it, absolutely"?
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I've hit with the 360+ a lot, and not all that much with the auxetic, but I couldn't tell much of a difference at all. Granted, I never hit with two that were set up the same - my 360+ has very different strings and grip setup than the auxetic demo that I've hit with, but still.
 
Why do they insist on creating new colours for the range?

The grey from the 360+ was perfectly fine, and in the Berrettini match in the sun, i thought it still looked like the 360+ grey, but from these pictures it's a completely new green?

Which means that:

a) The grey grommets of the current 360+ aren't going to match, so you have less options for replacement grommets.
b) There's a new Hydrosorb Pro grip colour that you're likely not going to be able to replace either.

But hey, at least you can get some (hopefully) matching yellow grommets for your 360+ PJs now....
 
dr. godmode said:
I find that Radical MP has significantly more power than the Extreme Tour. Power levels imo Pure Strike > Radical MP = VCore 98 > EZONE 98 >/= Extreme Tour
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I don't agree that radical has more power than the ezone, I have played with both (ezone 2020) and the yonex feels much more like a "tweener".
 
I bought replacement grommets (grey) for my G360+ ET Nites. What do you think will look better... the grey or the new yellow, on the Tour Nites?

The HEAD font on the hoop of the Tour Nites is grey... but there is also some yellow in the writing etc... so they could both be good and an interesting twist on the original Nite design.

It's like buying new racquets as they start to look different.
 
Classic-TXP-IG MID said:
I bought replacement grommets (grey) for my G360+ ET Nites. What do you think will look better... the grey or the new yellow, on the Tour Nites?

The HEAD font on the hoop of the Tour Nites is grey... but there is also some yellow in the writing etc... so they could both be good and an interesting twist on the original Nite design.

It's like buying new racquets as they start to look different.
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Yellow in my opinion, gets more of the bumblebee vibe. And also where did you get the grommets? TW and other retailers don’t have them.
 
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