1) Yes, but this one feels even better. I had previous MP in my hands but the new ones feel like holding something that Porsche made haha
2) Gen 3
3) Nope
4) Unfortunately no, I don't have a way of measuring it.
Head Auxetic Gravity Official Thread
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2) Gen 3
3) Nope
4) Unfortunately no, I don't have a way of measuring it.
has been said that it's not happening
ACT
Rookie
Don't know if i can be bothered making a full video on this one
But here are quick thoughts after initial hit with Aux G Pro
Specs: 334g strung 327SW, didn't measure balance but would be around the 6pts HL range, strung with thinner poly (lower swingweight) Tour Bite 1.15mm
1) Feel is a bit more direct off the stringbed, less pocketing, you could say it's ever so slightly firmer but i think it's more to do with the pocketing
2) My assumptions are the average swingweight on GPros are likely lowered, 2 measured 322 and ~330 sw strung, previously is was a little bit more difficult to find these ranges, but 2 random ones off the shelf came into this range
3) My underspec 2021 version at 325 SW had a twistweight of around 12.7-13 with 1.15mm Tour Bite, the Aux i played with at 327 sw came in around 14 TW
- Therefore the stability was heavily increased at a lower swingweight, whereas my 2021 i could not play with it at all, without adding a heavier string or lead
4) My regular spec 2018 was 336 SW and 332 with thin gauge, but twistweight was around mid 14s
5) The rest of the characteristics other than that are basically the same, however i did find it to actually launch a little bit more, due to how it reacted off the new feel, but havent had enough time to say whether this is the new layup or just the day i played
I think overall, it might be a little more accessible off the shelf for a few more players who want to try it out without accidentally receiving a stupid spec, although obviously still possible
But it's still a dead playing racquet that requires a big full swing to access it's good power, and a GPro from my experience never played great under 330 SW anyway, so should ideally be targeting for the intended spec and average swingweight of 330-332, still would be most optimal for fully aggressive players or advanced only - if you think it's underpowered, it probably ain't for you or your playstyle
But here are quick thoughts after initial hit with Aux G Pro
Specs: 334g strung 327SW, didn't measure balance but would be around the 6pts HL range, strung with thinner poly (lower swingweight) Tour Bite 1.15mm
1) Feel is a bit more direct off the stringbed, less pocketing, you could say it's ever so slightly firmer but i think it's more to do with the pocketing
2) My assumptions are the average swingweight on GPros are likely lowered, 2 measured 322 and ~330 sw strung, previously is was a little bit more difficult to find these ranges, but 2 random ones off the shelf came into this range
3) My underspec 2021 version at 325 SW had a twistweight of around 12.7-13 with 1.15mm Tour Bite, the Aux i played with at 327 sw came in around 14 TW
- Therefore the stability was heavily increased at a lower swingweight, whereas my 2021 i could not play with it at all, without adding a heavier string or lead
4) My regular spec 2018 was 336 SW and 332 with thin gauge, but twistweight was around mid 14s
5) The rest of the characteristics other than that are basically the same, however i did find it to actually launch a little bit more, due to how it reacted off the new feel, but havent had enough time to say whether this is the new layup or just the day i played
I think overall, it might be a little more accessible off the shelf for a few more players who want to try it out without accidentally receiving a stupid spec, although obviously still possible
But it's still a dead playing racquet that requires a big full swing to access it's good power, and a GPro from my experience never played great under 330 SW anyway, so should ideally be targeting for the intended spec and average swingweight of 330-332, still would be most optimal for fully aggressive players or advanced only - if you think it's underpowered, it probably ain't for you or your playstyle
Dragy
Legend
I think the biggest thing right now is they didn’t break a good racquet, possibly refined it a bit. SW thing is important, my 2018 is like 337 with 1.20 poly, and I’m going for gut/poly which will make it somewhat higher. Not that it’s unwieldy, but 330-335 is preferred.
For those who finds changes too shallow, great time to get some of older version. But paintjob!
Still disappointed there’s no Gtour available in the US. I like adding a heavier grip+overgrip and using gut/poly so it brings the specs close to the GPro.
It also doesn’t seem like there’s a huge difference between the 2021 and 2023 model.
I think my best bet is to order a couple of the old ones with a 310 weight and then customize it to my preference. Thoughts?
It also doesn’t seem like there’s a huge difference between the 2021 and 2023 model.
I think my best bet is to order a couple of the old ones with a 310 weight and then customize it to my preference. Thoughts?
He did try it out but never got past a training session with it - ended up with a short switch to the Prestige MP mold with PT57 layup but was shortlived
brentzki
Rookie
I just had a hit with the new GPro last night and wow the feel on this one is rock solid.
I didn’t actually like the prior version because I felt it was too mushy, but the update really gives you more connection to the ball, didn’t anyone else think this?
This makes me want to maybe buy one and try for an extended demo…. Not to mention the demo I just finished hitting with was the stock Head Lynx string still on it lol.
It’s making me question my ‘23 VCore 98s…
I didn’t actually like the prior version because I felt it was too mushy, but the update really gives you more connection to the ball, didn’t anyone else think this?
This makes me want to maybe buy one and try for an extended demo…. Not to mention the demo I just finished hitting with was the stock Head Lynx string still on it lol.
It’s making me question my ‘23 VCore 98s…
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I got the matching results today for my 2xMP and 1xPro
I was able to get the same swingweight for the MP and Pro
))
Slightly over spec MP (298 gr and 295 SW) and the Pro is slightly under (313 gr and 296 SW).
The Pro were all fairly consistent with SW ranging from 296 to 303.
Can't wait to try those
I was able to get the same swingweight for the MP and Pro
))Slightly over spec MP (298 gr and 295 SW) and the Pro is slightly under (313 gr and 296 SW).
The Pro were all fairly consistent with SW ranging from 296 to 303.
Can't wait to try those
lazywombat
Rookie
Tested Gravity MP today. When held in hand it felt similar to Speed MP, but played much more flexible and muted than I anticipated from reading reviews. Super comfortable and easy to use but lacked heft and stringbed felt very "muddy". My question is are Auxetic Pro/Tour also super muted to same degree, or they give more connection to the ball due to higher mass?
@lazywombat - GTour will be a bit more connected due to the 18x20 pattern, a bit more layup density and swing weight; GPro will be the most connected due to 18x20, considerably more layup density, swing weight and thinner beam.
MP felt a bit more muted to me than in the last version than the Pro.
konstantinos kalfountzos
Hall of Fame
Wow! He just got a new subscriber! The video suddenly ends and we don't get to hear his thoughts about the one-handed backhand.
3.75
New User
that's what I did. got an unstrung 310g, 9HL, 303 SW racket to match my stock. I have a couple at this spec and live them with thin multi and one overgrip. they end up 328-330 weight and 6.5 HL. I also have one a bit lighter SW and it plays better with a bit of weight (1.5g at 10:30 and 1:30). so I now believe lighter but still good SW and manageable balance is the way to go. even trimming a few grams from the SW takes away power and makes the balls sit a bit. then my usual hitting buddy kills me with his pro staff, and he ain't a pro.
bertrevert
Legend
Interesting comparison with Speed MP. You mean it sorta swung the same?
What string were in this demo stringbed to make it feel muddy/vague?
BTW the 2019 G MP certainly doens't have that much of a sweetspot of a Speed or a Rad either...
Blade_X
Professional
I am sorry to report that gravity tour and pro are not the same anymore. Most of the reviewers said that it’s almost the same racquet with more stability, power and soft response. Some even said that it offers even more feel.
I only agree with reviewers in the sense that racquets have the same specs and the way they float over the air is similar. To me nothing else is common.
Auxetic offers more stability, less vibrations and a minor increase in power and pop. The main con for me was feel….. UNFORTUNATELY auxetic feel of gravity is kinda semi muted. The ultimate communication of previous gravity’s is gone. It’s still has the classic soft and pillowy response but it became too much mushy…… at least is not as mushy as latest radical mp which has been muted even more.
As for the 2 racquets i still prefer tour over pro. Pro has a tiny more solid/plush feel but Tour clearly boosts more power, pop and spin. I feel all the weight on Pro at throat/grip level and as a result i don’t have the wrist freedom to make clean contact and shape the ball as i want. It’s definitely more demanding.
My advice to all gravity lovers. If you find previous gravity power levels adequate go and stock up while you can!
I only agree with reviewers in the sense that racquets have the same specs and the way they float over the air is similar. To me nothing else is common.
Auxetic offers more stability, less vibrations and a minor increase in power and pop. The main con for me was feel….. UNFORTUNATELY auxetic feel of gravity is kinda semi muted. The ultimate communication of previous gravity’s is gone. It’s still has the classic soft and pillowy response but it became too much mushy…… at least is not as mushy as latest radical mp which has been muted even more.
As for the 2 racquets i still prefer tour over pro. Pro has a tiny more solid/plush feel but Tour clearly boosts more power, pop and spin. I feel all the weight on Pro at throat/grip level and as a result i don’t have the wrist freedom to make clean contact and shape the ball as i want. It’s definitely more demanding.
My advice to all gravity lovers. If you find previous gravity power levels adequate go and stock up while you can!
I am sorry to report that gravity tour and pro are not the same anymore. Most of the reviewers said that it’s almost the same racquet with more stability, power and soft response. Some even said that it offers even more feel.
I only agree with reviewers in the sense that racquets have the same specs and the way they float over the air is similar. To me nothing else is common.
Auxetic offers more stability, less vibrations and a minor increase in power and pop. The main con for me was feel….. UNFORTUNATELY auxetic feel of gravity is kinda semi muted. The ultimate communication of previous gravity’s is gone. It’s still has the classic soft and pillowy response but it became too much mushy…… at least is not as mushy as latest radical mp which has been muted even more.
As for the 2 racquets i still prefer tour over pro. Pro has a tiny more solid/plush feel but Tour clearly boosts more power, pop and spin. I feel all the weight on Pro at throat/grip level and as a result i don’t have the wrist freedom to make clean contact and shape the ball as i want. It’s definitely more demanding.
My advice to all gravity lovers. If you find previous gravity power levels adequate go and stock up while you can!
Thanks- it's a shame you can't find the 2021 GTour anywhere anymore
Maybe some people find it interesting...I got the matching results today for my 2xMP and 1xPro
I was able to get the same swingweight for the MP and Pro
Slightly over spec MP (298 gr and 295 SW) and the Pro is slightly under (313 gr and 296 SW).
The Pro were all fairly consistent with SW ranging from 296 to 303.
Can't wait to try those
Got those frames... remember the SW of the MPs and the Pro were close (295 and 296 unstrung).
Strung, the MP has a SW of 328 and the Pro a SW of 332 (that was the lowest SW of the bunch couldn't imagine where I would be if I had taker the other with 5 more SW points).
So yes the string pattern makes quite a difference.. FYI strung with TF Ice Code 120
WYK
Hall of Fame
Hah. As someone who strings, I sort of agree with him on the stringing part, especially since I just put Tour Bite 125 in the mains on mine.
I also agree with his first statement. Somehow the ball stays in, and has loads of spin and pace. It's definitely a gem of HEAD's line up.
Tan Tennis
Rookie
Just here sharing the spec of my Gravity Pro.
318g and 296 SW unstrung
336g and 325 SW strung with Tour Bite Soft 1.15
318g and 296 SW unstrung
336g and 325 SW strung with Tour Bite Soft 1.15
Same. But a bit older. Playing the new MP with overgrip and 4 grams. Dampener. Static weight 328. Haven’t had time to check swingweight yet.
Normally the swing weight is higher right?
I have 3 of the 2021 GPros with unstrung SWs of 313/314 (at 316-317g static weight)! Either all 3 of mine are high outliers or his are low-SW outliers
Tan Tennis
Rookie
Yes. If strung with 1.20 it should be around 332 and could be closed to 340 with 1.25.
What's the balance? Mine is 325mm
Hi all,
What are people currents string setups?
I find my 23 GP to be super “mushy” is my best description.
Had it strung with Lynx Tour at 52lbs felt terrible.
Currently strung with Solinco Confidential @ 56lbs and feels better but lacks spin/power.
Just curious to see anyone else’s experience.
At this stage going back to my Stock V13 PS97 strung with Kirshbaum Max Powrr Rough 1.25 @ 53/51lbs and instantly feels better.
Maybe the racquet is just not stiff enough?
What are people currents string setups?
I find my 23 GP to be super “mushy” is my best description.
Had it strung with Lynx Tour at 52lbs felt terrible.
Currently strung with Solinco Confidential @ 56lbs and feels better but lacks spin/power.
Just curious to see anyone else’s experience.
At this stage going back to my Stock V13 PS97 strung with Kirshbaum Max Powrr Rough 1.25 @ 53/51lbs and instantly feels better.
Maybe the racquet is just not stiff enough?
Lynx Tour is a crisp string, it works great in Gravity. If you still think it's mushy, probably Gravity is not your type of racquet.
JeanF
New User
Despite my reasonably short playing period with the Gravity Pro Auxetic I can tell that Luxilon Alu Power Soft 1.25 mm. performs very well in this frame.
I am a satisfied and long time user of the Yonex vcore 95 (2021 version and also 2023 version) but the Gravity Pro Auxetic with Alu Power Soft on 23/22 kg strung has really impressed me !
The amount of control, feel, and touch I've experienced so far is very impressive, and even better than my vcore 95 2023 strung with Luxilon 4G Soft 1.25 mm.
No mushy feel at all, but just a nice balance of an undampened but smooth playersframe feel with lots of control and stability.
Compared to the vcore 95 2023 the biggest advantage is the impressive stability, the huge sweetspot, and the feedback this frame gives as regard to ball feel/contact.
WYK
Hall of Fame
I can't run Lynx Tour that high. At most I have it at 50, usually 48X46 lbs. It's my usual set up.
I recently tried 1.25 Tour Bite and found it felt much too firm.
Tan Tennis
Rookie
I put Tour Bite Soft 1.20 in my Gravity Pro at mid-40s. It feels great, not mushy at all. It's soft and a bit crispy.
Got a bunch of Alu power sets to try with my tours.... just to see if something feels better than my 2 string of choice for this one (Ice Code 120 and Grapplesnake Excellent Purple +)
Got
- Alu Power 125 Ocean Blue
- Alu Power Soft
- Alu Power 120
- Alu Power Rough
Just strung one with the Ocean Blue (looks really great on the new Gravity). Didn't remember how it was a pain to string those especially in a 18x20 frame !!
Will compare tomorrow with my second tour strung with Ice Code...
Both at 21kg
I also bought some Lynx Touch to try the Lynx Tour / Touch hybrid that could be great on a tight pattern like that
Got
- Alu Power 125 Ocean Blue
- Alu Power Soft
- Alu Power 120
- Alu Power Rough
Just strung one with the Ocean Blue (looks really great on the new Gravity). Didn't remember how it was a pain to string those especially in a 18x20 frame !!
Will compare tomorrow with my second tour strung with Ice Code...
Both at 21kg
I also bought some Lynx Touch to try the Lynx Tour / Touch hybrid that could be great on a tight pattern like that
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Dragy
Legend
They have significantly different SW. You can get more plow from MP if you add even if just a couple of g of lead at 12 o’clock. Or like 1.5-2g on each side at 10&2 or 9&3
powerrangers
Rookie
I normally play with a PS97 weighted up , the gravity felt great to me . It does take time to adapt though.
lazywombat
Rookie
Sorta. Speed is less maneuverable and feels more substancial/stable though.
Demo was strung with Head Lynx 1.25 black.
KC!
Hall of Fame
S7T @ 50 lbs or Confidential @ 48. Stiffer/crisper poly is good in GP.
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