Any tension suggestions for gut/ghostwire in the radical auxetic mp? 59/54 lbs maybe? Should not be too launchy.
Head Auxetic Radical
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chizzle
Rookie
What are folks thinking of the Aux Radical Pro? I picked one up for a demo/test ... I've been playing with the Pro Staff X for 3 months and been really enjoying that one.
The Pro is a bit more maneuverable and has a higher ball flight. I feel the Pro Staff is a tad more stable, but the trade off is less whippy on the FH side.
The Pro seems overlooked. I know there is a big following that wishes it was like the radical from 2003 (LM, etc), but it feels like a softer Pro Staff.
Enjoyed Groundies & volleys but haven't served with it yet, or played sets/games yet.
Tried SPPP 1.18 in it, and felt nice - perhaps too thin. What are folks using, enjoying for string?!!
The Pro is a bit more maneuverable and has a higher ball flight. I feel the Pro Staff is a tad more stable, but the trade off is less whippy on the FH side.
The Pro seems overlooked. I know there is a big following that wishes it was like the radical from 2003 (LM, etc), but it feels like a softer Pro Staff.
Enjoyed Groundies & volleys but haven't served with it yet, or played sets/games yet.
Tried SPPP 1.18 in it, and felt nice - perhaps too thin. What are folks using, enjoying for string?!!
So, we can say the Radical Pro it’s like pro staff 97 with forgiving package? Extra head size, tiny thicker beam but still 315 gr unstrung weight! Looks yummy...
tophersuwita
Rookie
Guys, I am an EZT 98 2022 player with all court game, playing both singles and doubles, OHBH. I just tried my friend's old Radical (idk which version, from 2015ish) and found it was very fast yet stable with connecting feels.
I am looking for VCP 97D, but now really swayed by Radical. Which one suits my fast-preference and can be played in singles/doubles? And is Radical MP a better racket? Btw I don't like EZ 98 at all because my strokes tend to sail long. On the contrary, I like Regna 100 because it is a bit low powered with more direct connecting feel
I am looking for VCP 97D, but now really swayed by Radical. Which one suits my fast-preference and can be played in singles/doubles? And is Radical MP a better racket? Btw I don't like EZ 98 at all because my strokes tend to sail long. On the contrary, I like Regna 100 because it is a bit low powered with more direct connecting feel
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SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
Head Auxetic Radical MP strung with Hawk Touch @ 50 lbs :
first of all strings too tight for my liking but it was strung for demo and I forgot to bring my prestige with me to string so I just took the radical. But I've been meaning to give this, Pro, and TFight 300 a go. Our hit was cut short by the weather so this will need further testing.
I quite like it. The feel is quite stiff and firm but it is also pretty crisp and connected. strung at my 40lbs I might be able to better assess the feel. But I think first impressions were great. for a 300g frame this was a solid swinging racquet that didn't waver much at high RHS or blocking back pace. and it was also fast swinging enough that I could really hit through the ball and rip. the launch angle tho was just lower than I expected. some forehands I wasn't adjusting properly too fell really short. But it suits my backhand pretty nicely as I pretty much line drive my backhands.
thats really all I have comments wise we could only hit down the center for 20 some min. I hit with the T-Fight 300 really quickly too as they are almost identical spec wise. the feel on that (albeit looser strings) felt better and the power level felt better. The main issue with that frame was the spacing of the strings seemed launchy. it was reminiscent of the WO 16x19 that I didnt quite like
first of all strings too tight for my liking but it was strung for demo and I forgot to bring my prestige with me to string so I just took the radical. But I've been meaning to give this, Pro, and TFight 300 a go. Our hit was cut short by the weather so this will need further testing.
I quite like it. The feel is quite stiff and firm but it is also pretty crisp and connected. strung at my 40lbs I might be able to better assess the feel. But I think first impressions were great. for a 300g frame this was a solid swinging racquet that didn't waver much at high RHS or blocking back pace. and it was also fast swinging enough that I could really hit through the ball and rip. the launch angle tho was just lower than I expected. some forehands I wasn't adjusting properly too fell really short. But it suits my backhand pretty nicely as I pretty much line drive my backhands.
thats really all I have comments wise we could only hit down the center for 20 some min. I hit with the T-Fight 300 really quickly too as they are almost identical spec wise. the feel on that (albeit looser strings) felt better and the power level felt better. The main issue with that frame was the spacing of the strings seemed launchy. it was reminiscent of the WO 16x19 that I didnt quite like
Circa 1762
Rookie
@SupahMan5000 How do you think the Rad MP stacks up against the Percept 100 and 100D, in particular on launch angle and power?
For what it’s worth - I’m lower level than you but I do occasionally drill with some 5.0s - I agree that the Rad MP is super stable for its weight.
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
100 blows both out the water in power by no surprise. Launch angle much higher but stringbed can be launchy for some. I liked it a lot for myself but I can see it being an issue
100D is in between but prob skews towards the Rad MP level of power. Launch angle id say slightly better. I can’t seem to figure out the proper lift for the Rad MP quite yet
If you're not already at a potential ideal recoil weight for your height (see @Brando's table) with the Rad MP, I would customize to get it there (provided you have a way to measure swing weight, you can use the Impacting Tennis calculator to figure out recoil weight). Finding a dialed-in recoil weight for the racquet will allow you to swing with the most relaxed wrist possible and the racquet should feel more of an extension of your arm that is swinging itself after the wrist break (mid-swing). Also equally important would be to try and increase polarity, (slightly lowering MGR/i), to generate a bit more natural "see-saw" motion out of the racquet through the average ground stroke, which will help produce a more loopy trajectory and get the launch angle up, with less manual straining required every time.
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oldmanyellingatcloud
Semi-Pro
I'm not sure how that would work. Which Radical are you trying to add CAPs too?
KC!
Hall of Fame
One of the Pro’s at my tennis club let me hit his Radical Pro this past weekend. It really surprised me how solid it is at every thing. Forehand ,backhand, volleys, & serves. I like the weight & plow too. It doesn’t have quite the feel but solid all around racquet that is easier to play with than my 97D. Sunday after playing & walking out of the club I got distracted again by Radical Pro. I went ahead and grabbed one to take home & measure. 322 static, 301 swing weight & 31.75 balance. Was thinking of trying with Hyper G 1.20 to try to keep swing weight around 330. What is everyone liking in the Radical’s?
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
KC!
Hall of Fame
Do you know if Wasabi is a heavy or lighter string? Only reason I was going to go Hyper G 1.20 is it’s on lighter side of strings. Trying to keep swing weight around 330.
PhxRacket
Hall of Fame
I’m going to give it another try. I will demo from my lts so that I can get my usual string and tension. I really, really like the Pro. For me, the string needs to be 18 or 19 gauge. It can be a round poly as i found it spinny enough. Played some great doubles with it. And defensive shots in singles were amazing!
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
toaster
New User
I bought some Radical Pro Auxetic racquets and was quite surprised. Before I tried the Yonex Percept 97d and compared to that, the Radical Pro swings much easier. The spinn potential was also much higher than expected. It plays somehow between a Pure Aero and a Pure Drive. I don´t get the low CPI number from Head and I would not rate this racquet on the control side. In my opinion, it is a more controlled Aero and Pure Drive.
- Serves were excellent. Good power and great kick-serves.
- Spinn was great, for my opinion it could be little less.
- The feel was not like a classic frame like Prestige or Percept, but decent to play. Comfort is somewhere in the middle.
- Power was good, but sometimes I miss the mass from a Prestige and Percept.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
I think it's a great racquet stock - very stable, good plow through on groundies, definitely lower launch angle and controlled compared to the PA98, stiffer and much more stable than the Extreme Tour. I'm kinda between the ET and the Radical Pro - the Pro doesn't give me anything for free, but it's a fun racquet to play with. I might add a little weight to the tail and at 10 and 2.
PhxRacket
Hall of Fame
I’m going to give the Radical Pro another go, using my lts. Maybe a different string at my usual tension will make a difference??
KC!
Hall of Fame
I got my Radical Pro back from the stringer yesterday. 337 static weight, 331 Swing Weight, 32.35 balance & 163 recoil strung with Hyper G 16L @ 52lbs. This racquet is an anomaly for a 21 mm beam, having a tight 16x19 string pattern to have so much plow. This racquet is so solid in every aspect & may be best I’ve ever hit for backhands. The one area I would like to enhance is feel. I like dead control polys like Hyper G, Confidential, Super Toro, S7T & Tour Sniper. Any recommendations on a low powered syn gut to hybrid with to get some added feel? I was thinking maybe trying a cross with Forten Sweet or Gosen OG-Sheep Micro.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Yeah I played last night with my new Rad Pro w/ Lynx Tour Orange 1.25 ~50 lbs - felt pretty stiff, and agreed a thinner poly might be a better option. I have a mini-reel of Toroline Caviar @ 1.20 gauge, so I might try that or a Red Wasabi (I'm weird about strings looking cool color wise with my sticks ;-))
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Don't get me wrong - I really like Lynx Tour and I still thought it played great, maybe it was the colder weather, but I would have strung in a little looser in retrospect.
KC!
Hall of Fame
I’ll have to try Alpha, one string of Grapplesnake’s I haven’t tried. The Rad Pro is rock solid in hoop, love the predictability coming off the string bed. The added stiffness & plow are much appreciated for a control racquet.
tim-ay
Legend
I’m not sure if I am really recommending it. Ha, maybe? I had some around and used it and it was surprisingly good. But I need to do more string testing in the RP. I’m traveling and won’t get to do that for another week or so but I’ll ping you if I have any insights here or on the holic thread. Let me know how yours go also, we at least have some similar things we like.
tim-ay
Legend
That’s still my fav right now, even though I really like this rad pro also. The SXT just has more power and is close to the same control, maybe equal for me as I’m dialed in with it. The ball does nasty things on the other side of the net, something the Wout doesn’t do as much (although also a good racket). That 19 SXT was made for me.Ha! The brutal cycle of racquets & then dialing in the string/tension. I’ll share what I find out & appreciate your feedback. I’m glad you’re traveling, all your talk on SX 300 Tour had me close to jumping on the bay
KC!
Hall of Fame
I will grab one off the bay. The combination of control & power hooked me. I normally prefer thinner beams, but I did love the Ezone 98+. I would probably still be using it if my elbow wouldn’t have stated hurting with it. The Rad Pro really checks every box though.. Thin beam, control racquet, great in every aspect that paints the ball with the force of a sledge hammer. It does really does everything really well. You need to go to TW University similar racquet tool & put in 2023 Radical Pro. You will find what pops up very familiar!
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donjuan116
New User
I just picked one of these up. Want good access to spin and depth. I do occasionally flatten out my forehand when I'm driving it more and like to feel the hoop plow through the ball. I usually like my strung static weight around 335-340g and 5 points headlight (~33cm balance point).
How would y'all go about customizing this frame based on that? I'm thinking leather grip and 5 grams at 12 o clock.
How would y'all go about customizing this frame based on that? I'm thinking leather grip and 5 grams at 12 o clock.
I usually measure the W, Bal and SW b4 I even remove the plastic on the grip since I’ve receive quite a few out of spec frames lately. Then play with it b4 doing any mod to see how it feels. Then weight it up to my usual spec around 330g, 6pts HL and 330SW with dampener. Play it some more b4 tweaking the specs some more to include twist weight, mgr/I, recoil weight etc. Without measuring. It’s just a guessing game.
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Looking at the Radical MP 2023
Just wondering if anyone could recommend a string tension for me. Coming from vcore 98 (2023) & Galaxy Black (2019) w/ Head Lynx Tour @52/50 lbs.
Should I just keep my reference tension or drop to 50/48 or lower??
I'm just looking to get out of the spin category and into control. I don't really like playing a big spin game which is almost a requirement for me right now given the vcore 98 launch angle.
Just wondering if anyone could recommend a string tension for me. Coming from vcore 98 (2023) & Galaxy Black (2019) w/ Head Lynx Tour @52/50 lbs.
Should I just keep my reference tension or drop to 50/48 or lower??
I'm just looking to get out of the spin category and into control. I don't really like playing a big spin game which is almost a requirement for me right now given the vcore 98 launch angle.
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KC!
Hall of Fame
I’m currently playing with S7T in my VCT & Tour Bite in the other @ 48lbs. I think the launch angle is lower on the VCT than the regular VC98 though.
Edit-I just noticed this was under the Radical. I played with the Auxetic Radical Pro Strung @ 50/48 with Hyper G. It’s a very low launch angle for a 16x19.
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Dansan
Semi-Pro
I came from a Vcore 98 at 52ish lbs. I play my aux rad mp at 48.5/46.5 lbs full poly
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
I approve
Just wanted to report back that I played for a few hours with the Radical MP 2023 tonight strung with Lynx Tour Orange @50/48.
This is by far the best racquet I've played with for my game. I had so much more directional control with this racquet then my Vcore98 (2023)
I've definitely noticed less power, but just way more raw feel on the ball, much lower launch angle and greater consistency. The new radical just gave me a tonne of confidence on my serves and groundstrokes. My hitting partner tonight kept commenting that I was hitting with much more spin, which I found interesting to hear since the Vcore is supposed to be the spin stick.
I still like my older Galaxy black Vcore98 (it was stiffer and more raw feeling), but, I don't care for the softer and even more muted 2023 Vcore 98.
This is by far the best racquet I've played with for my game. I had so much more directional control with this racquet then my Vcore98 (2023)
I've definitely noticed less power, but just way more raw feel on the ball, much lower launch angle and greater consistency. The new radical just gave me a tonne of confidence on my serves and groundstrokes. My hitting partner tonight kept commenting that I was hitting with much more spin, which I found interesting to hear since the Vcore is supposed to be the spin stick.
I still like my older Galaxy black Vcore98 (it was stiffer and more raw feeling), but, I don't care for the softer and even more muted 2023 Vcore 98.
_FrankTheTank_
Rookie
Tennis-Point Germany recently listed the Rad MP and the Pro with a 18x20 pattern. Not that I'm interested as I like the power level on my MP and found the directeional control already good.
ChipReturns
New User
Does anyone know what model/year this prostock radical MP is? Can we tell based on throat grommets? I am trying to replace the grommets and the 2023 radical grommets do not fit. Thank you!
Also available on tennis-point UK. Looks interesting.
oldmanyellingatcloud
Semi-Pro
cool to see the 18x20 return in some capacity
_FrankTheTank_
Rookie
another 18x20 Radical out now called TOUR, 305g, 31.5mm, MP mold
www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com
HEAD Radical Tour 2023 Tennisschläger | Tennis Warehouse Europe
www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com
Unstrung balance of 31.5? Sick!another 18x20 Radical out now called TOUR, 305g, 31.5mm, MP mold
HEAD Radical Tour 2023 Tennisschläger | Tennis Warehouse Europe
#RadTour1HBHClub
99Problems
New User
Has Head put out any early demo's or info on the Auxetic 2.0 Radicals? Demo'd the current version and I liked it quite a bit, but waiting to see how 2.0 feels (and what the updated graphics/colorway may be).
galapagos
Hall of Fame
i hope that the new one will have better pocketing. current version feels a tiny bit too stiff/hollow (Pro model). MP on the other hand feels nice so it's quite interesting that the lighter frame feels (and maybe even plays) better. I think most players will benefit more from customizing the MP rather than choosing the Pro.
99Problems
New User
Yes, the MP is the one I tried (stock form). With the Gravity 98 already having a lot of info out there, I was hoping the new Radical MP might have some prototype units out as well for people to report on.
