Head Extreme 2024 Thread

I tried a Pro at 325SW with and without leather grip. Leather adds a lot and I'd personally need one with this frame. Feel is nice and solid. Very solid with enough feel to get by when strung with Lynx Tour. Classic Auxetic flex with the "grape popping" feel of the ball coming in and out of the stringbed. Less obvious than the Boom or Speed, but not as subtle as the Gravity Pro or Radicals. Plays essentially the same as last few versions, but feels a bit more stable due to the more solid feel. I don't think this has anything to do with a high twistweight or anything, racquet is still plenty maneuverable and very fast.

Typical incremental update. Probably won't make a full review for this frame in the short-term, but will upload first impressions at some point.

I'd be more likely to review the Extreme MP, especially if the feel is pretty close to the new Pro, but tbd.
 
dr. godmode said:
I tried a Pro at 325SW with and without leather grip. Leather adds a lot and I'd personally need one with this frame. Feel is nice and solid. Very solid with enough feel to get by when strung with Lynx Tour. Classic Auxetic flex with the "grape popping" feel of the ball coming in and out of the stringbed. Less obvious than the Boom or Speed, but not as subtle as the Gravity Pro or Radicals. Plays essentially the same as last few versions, but feels a bit more stable due to the more solid feel. I don't think this has anything to do with a high twistweight or anything, racquet is still plenty maneuverable and very fast.

Typical incremental update. Probably won't make a full review for this frame in the short-term, but will upload first impressions at some point.

I'd be more likely to review the Extreme MP, especially if the feel is pretty close to the new Pro, but tbd.
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Will be interesting to see if the changes to the feel and sound create the impression of better stability than actually enhancing stability, other than the fact that the stock SWs look to be a little higher on this 2.0 vs. the 1.0 (for both the Pro and MP I believe).
 
Ryebread said:
I have only played with the stick once.
I'm a 4.0
I played a 3.5 who hits with a radical mp auxetic. he hits a super hard first serve. and moderate 3.5 groundies.
I honestly didn't detect any issue with stability/plow/sw.
I was shocked when I measured the sw later in the day, after hearing reports of the low sw in the initial launch!
shocked!

my opponent commented on my defense, spin, and serve. I hit with him weekly.
I will see other friends soon, and report back. my other crew are 4.0 doubles folks.
that will be the real test.

I am a little bothered by the 316, but I am keeping an open mind.
hey, sometimes the tech works.
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Slap 2 g of lead at 12 and it's a bulldozer. Easier than dealing with low TW.
 
dr. godmode said:
I tried a Pro at 325SW with and without leather grip. Leather adds a lot and I'd personally need one with this frame. Feel is nice and solid. Very solid with enough feel to get by when strung with Lynx Tour. Classic Auxetic flex with the "grape popping" feel of the ball coming in and out of the stringbed. Less obvious than the Boom or Speed, but not as subtle as the Gravity Pro or Radicals. Plays essentially the same as last few versions, but feels a bit more stable due to the more solid feel. I don't think this has anything to do with a high twistweight or anything, racquet is still plenty maneuverable and very fast.

Typical incremental update. Probably won't make a full review for this frame in the short-term, but will upload first impressions at some point.

I'd be more likely to review the Extreme MP, especially if the feel is pretty close to the new Pro, but tbd.
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thx for sharing
I may try adding a LG, it'll prob bring my static from 326 to 330, and move balance from 32 to 31.75.
what do you think the diff in SW was before/after the leather grip?
my guess is my SW will move from 316 to 318-320?
Thank you Beckett
 
Ryebread said:
thx for sharing
I may try adding a LG, it'll prob bring my static from 326 to 330, and move balance from 32 to 31.75.
what do you think the diff in SW was before/after the leather grip?
my guess is my SW will move from 316 to 318-320?
Thank you Beckett
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leather never changes SW more than 1 point in my experience, and that's within margin of error for most machines. The added weight is too close to the pivot point to noticeably impact SW
 
atatu said:
That's a rough review, as both Brittany and Jason talk about problems with shanking. Also when she opens up with "accelerate your game" I'mthinking it was a reference to the celery color paintjob, "a cerlery ate your game..."
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Well, just need to keep in mind that TW gave uncharacteristically mediocre grades to the Aux 1.0 ones as well, so need to take their reviews with a grain of salt.
 
atatu said:
That's a rough review, as both Brittany and Jason talk about problems with shanking. Also when she opens up with "accelerate your game" I'mthinking it was a reference to the celery color paintjob, "a cerlery ate your game..."
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VERY odd, their shanking issues.
I am SMH here. I have no idea what they are talking about.
I played with the frame for 2.5 hours yesterday and didn't shank a ball once.
something is amiss.
they know how to play, and they have played with tons of frames, including tons of yonex.
the extreme pro is VERY similar to my percept 100D, frame dimension-wise.
obviously, the 100D is a just a smidge bigger. but the shape is so close!

the string bed is consistent, too. very odd review.
 
Ryebread said:
I have only played with the stick once.
I'm a 4.0
I played a 3.5 who hits with a radical mp auxetic. he hits a super hard first serve. and moderate 3.5 groundies.
I honestly didn't detect any issue with stability/plow/sw.
I was shocked when I measured the sw later in the day, after hearing reports of the low sw in the initial launch!
shocked!

my opponent commented on my defense, spin, and serve. I hit with him weekly.
I will see other friends soon, and report back. my other crew are 4.0 doubles folks.
that will be the real test.

I am a little bothered by the 316, but I am keeping an open mind.
hey, sometimes the tech works.
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Nice to hear, im interested in this stick!
 
Ryebread said:
VERY odd, their shanking issues.
I am SMH here. I have no idea what they are talking about.
I played with the frame for 2.5 hours yesterday and didn't shank a ball once.
something is amiss.
they know how to play, and they have played with tons of frames, including tons of yonex.
the extreme pro is VERY similar to my percept 100D, frame dimension-wise.
obviously, the 100D is a just a smidge bigger. but the shape is so close!

the string bed is consistent, too. very odd review.
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They were using MP, you have the Pro, no?
 
Dragy said:
They were using MP, you have the Pro, no?
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I have the Pro yes.
sorry, I thought they were using the pro when they mentioned shanking, I will have to watch it again when I'm not distracted!

the MP is a 100, there should not be shanking with either frame.
 
I haven't heard the term shanking in a review for a really long time.
Shanking is a result of part of the racket isn't coming through the contact zone as typical..
Could be related to weight balance..
When weight is shifted from the middle towards the poles..or visa versa... Certain parts of the frame can lag when coming through the contact zone..
A few ezone 100's ago I shanked so many balls and it wasn't as a result of its thick beam.. it just had weird weight displacement..
 
Yesterday pulled the trigger and bought new MP and played doubles. Never was a fan of tweener frames but I was surprised how good I was playing with it. MP was strung with factory string, believe it’s Lynx.
Specs are: 321.5g with plastic on the handle
SW 326g
 
Creamsicle Pro Update
on page 6 I posted some initial thoughts and specs.

virgin
10.72 OZ
303.9 GRAMS
31.5CM BAL

with 17L poly
11.29
320.1
32.5

plus OG (overgrip)
11.50
326
32.00
SW 316 (tested on the new wilson baiardo) LOW!

played ok vs. a 3.5
I'm a 4.0
today I'm facing 4.0 talent. we shall see.

Beckett suggested a LG (leather grip)

I have never replaced a Head grip before.
The OrG (original grip) is super spongy and I like it. It helps the stick feel super comfy.
I'm a little worried now, after removing it.
I'll let you know if I feel more harsh vibrations. I didn't feel anything before with the OrG.

my LG, once trimmed short, is 22 grams
the OrG, 13 grams

Once finishing tape is applied, and the same OG, my spec is:
11.78 oz
334 grams!
31.5 cm balance!
I'll check the SW later.

before I put the OG back on, the LG looked super nice on the creamsicle pro!

https://flic.kr/p/2q4Y5Ec
https://flic.kr/p/2q53H5c

I will report back later.
 
atatu said:
That's a rough review, as both Brittany and Jason talk about problems with shanking. Also when she opens up with "accelerate your game" I'm thinking it was a reference to the celery color paintjob, "a cerlery ate your game..."
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When I got my first Aux. Extreme MP over the winter it probably took me a good 4 sets before I stopped shanking the ball so I can totally understand what they were talking about. I was transitioning from the Speed MP so it's not like I was previously using a slow, heavy beast of a frame but the Extreme is so whippy that it takes time for some to adjust. That's not a problem of the frame though as once you get used to it, then everything falls into place as I loved the frame and would still be using it today if the power was easier to tame but that's why I just purchased an Extreme Pro as I'm hoping for similar performance with more control as I really like these frames.
 
I love the Pro with the Lg. But it didn’t add to the SW. it actually lowered it by 1 LB somehow. Even tho static went up 8 grams. I was hoping SW would go up 1-2 grams.

I’m obsessed with this frame!

https://flic.kr/p/2q55G5x

I just placed an order with the racquet experts. I’ll have a list of pros soon. I’ll keep y’all posted. I asked for 296 unstrung SW and 31.5 balance, which should bring me to around 322 SW strung and OG. I’m guessing my current stick is 290 unstrung. I didn’t check it before stringing her up.

If I end up with two sticks that are the same balance and have diff SW I’d be happy. I can string at home. So I don’t need identical twins. One higher SW for start of matches and singles maybe. One lower for when I’m tired or playing someone who doesn’t hit as hard.
 
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My EPs will arrive today... ordered three, but most likely i will only choose one of them as just bought some other matched frames to be my mains like 4 weeks ago...

I'm kind of curios of the coloring... On some pics the highligther-main-colour looks a bit more greenish, on others more yellowish. The color on the throat/upper hoop looks sometimes more whiteish, one others more like a soft warm yellow...
I'm aware that it always could be the lighting/editing/filtering, but there was also a case (shortly dicussed in this forum) with the Boom Pro 1.0 where it seems to have - deeping on the batch or something - was having slight differnt colors, one more mint and the other more teal (fotographed side by side). Hoping it's not the same with this one...

To the people who already hold it in their hands - how whould you describe the colors?
 
If someone could compare the BoomP24 with this ETP24 I would really be grateful. I have been using a BP24 demo with a lot of joy, I am close to purchase one...
I did not like the last ET unmodified.
 
hi all, new here - i returned to tennis about 6 weeks ago after a year out after a dislocated shoulder. i quit in about 2009 til about 2022 - played for 6 months til apr 2023, then dislocated my shoulder. I was sub-regional level in my time, and when fit and playing well am probably around a 4-4.5 -- i have played/competed with 5+s in my 6 weeks back already. I bought 2 Pure Drives to return to tennis in 2022, and they were fine to pick skills back up again, but they're a trampoline and i hate them now in 2024, so i demoed various in the last 3 weeks. I order of preference: 1) Head Extreme Pro 2024 // 2) Blade v9 98 16x19 // 3) Wilson Shift 99 // 4) Head Boom MP // 5) Head Speed Pro // 6) Babolat Pure Strike 100 16x19 // 7) Yonex vCore 100 -- all this to say -- the Extreme Pro is a dream stick. Much more spin friendly than the Blade, more precise than the Shift, more controlled than the Boom, better touch than the Speed, and just all-round better than the Pure Strike/VCore. I played with Radicals in my youth but the Extreme Pro Tour is lovely.

I feel like it can do with more weight in the handle, i have them strung today with Hyper G 1.25 at 25kg and 23kg for comparison's sake. i hit with the 25kg today and it's lovely. The Blade really hurt my elbow but the Extreme Pro hasn't at all. I feel like perhaps the Blade edges it on Serve, but as an all-round racket for someone with a pretty Western forehand grip, and a 2HBH, it's much more confidence inducing. I'm playing a 5.2 on Thursday, will probs use the 23kg, let's see how it goes. Have been stalking this forum since i got back into tennis 6 weeks ago so kinda wanted to thank everyone who contributes here as it's helped me immensely not only want to return to "competitive" level, but choose rackets for me while demoing etc. Sorry if this isn't permitted. Thanks all.
 
atatu said:
That's a rough review, as both Brittany and Jason talk about problems with shanking. Also when she opens up with "accelerate your game" I'm thinking it was a reference to the celery color paintjob, "a cerlery ate your game..."
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I like Brittany and Jason, but I wouldn't worry too much about their review. They are completely different players. It was an odd review but my critiques of this racquets have nothing to do with what they mentioned. I didn't have any ot the problems they mentioned. Does it mean I like this racquet more than all other? No. I thought the Graphene 360+ was head and shoulders better than the Auxetic, but that racquet's string pattern was too open for me. This one doesn't have as good of feel but the string pattern is spot on for me. I haven't had any shanking problems, lol
 
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nyarite said:
hi all, new here - i returned to tennis about 6 weeks ago after a year out after a dislocated shoulder. i quit in about 2009 til about 2022 - played for 6 months til apr 2023, then dislocated my shoulder. I was sub-regional level in my time, and when fit and playing well am probably around a 4-4.5 -- i have played/competed with 5+s in my 6 weeks back already. I bought 2 Pure Drives to return to tennis in 2022, and they were fine to pick skills back up again, but they're a trampoline and i hate them now in 2024, so i demoed various in the last 3 weeks. I order of preference: 1) Head Extreme Pro 2024 // 2) Blade v9 98 16x19 // 3) Wilson Shift 99 // 4) Head Boom MP // 5) Head Speed Pro // 6) Babolat Pure Strike 100 16x19 // 7) Yonex vCore 100 -- all this to say -- the Extreme Pro is a dream stick. Much more spin friendly than the Blade, more precise than the Shift, more controlled than the Boom, better touch than the Speed, and just all-round better than the Pure Strike/VCore. I played with Radicals in my youth but the Extreme Pro Tour is lovely.

I feel like it can do with more weight in the handle, i have them strung today with Hyper G 1.25 at 25kg and 23kg for comparison's sake. i hit with the 25kg today and it's lovely. The Blade really hurt my elbow but the Extreme Pro hasn't at all. I feel like perhaps the Blade edges it on Serve, but as an all-round racket for someone with a pretty Western forehand grip, and a 2HBH, it's much more confidence inducing. I'm playing a 5.2 on Thursday, will probs use the 23kg, let's see how it goes. Have been stalking this forum since i got back into tennis 6 weeks ago so kinda wanted to thank everyone who contributes here as it's helped me immensely not only want to return to "competitive" level, but choose rackets for me while demoing etc. Sorry if this isn't permitted. Thanks all.
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How is the pop compared to the Blade you demo'd? I currently use the Blade v9 98 16x19 and looking for a bit more pop without losing too much control. I find the Blade 98 demanding in tougher matches.
 
TennisHound said:
I like Brittany and Jason, but I wouldn't worry too much about their review. They are completely different players. It was an odd review but my critiques of this racquets have nothing to do with what they mentioned. I didn't have any ot the problems they mentioned. Does it mean I like this racquets more than all other? No. I thought the Graphene 360+ was head and shoulders better than the Auxetic, but that racquet's string pattern was too open for me. This one doesn't have as good of feel but the string pattern is spot on for me. I haven't had any shanking problems, lol
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That's interesting TennisHound, in which way you say the Graphene 360+ was better than the Auxetic??

I happen to play with a Extreme Tour 360+ since about three years ago, quite happy with it. I passed on the first Auxetic because everyone said it played very similar to the 360+ so it was not worth the investment, now that Auxetic 2.0 is coming I was thinking it's a good moment to go for a discounted Auxetic 1... So I'm interested in your take.

I was also thinking about making the switch from the Tour (now Pro) to the MP, I know it's a big change, but the bigger sweetspot, forgiveness and spin potential of the MP (check this review with some cool data about it) might help me in competitive games, specially against though opponents.

Anyway, let's see if some one can post a review of this new Extreme MP and how it compares to the previous versions. BTW, I think the new paintjob is looking really good, way better than previous models.
 
The 360+ was very soft feeling, with no odd vibes, or harshness. The Auxetic has a hint of all of these. Granted, its all subtle, and the string plays a role, but the 360+ with the current string pattern would be a winner. Even so, the Aux MP is good enough to switch to.
 
OK, unboxed my extreme pros today, the three 4 1/2s were 306/307/306g with the plastic around the handle with BP around 31.1-31.3cm. Can't measure SW sadly since I have no machine, but I don't think I'll get a 285-290 SW with those anyway... My three 4 3/8 however are 306g/31cm, 307g/31,5cm and 308g/31,5cm with plastic around the handle ... I'll think I'll go with one of those.

And the colors.... Not bad irl but I it was looking better on some pictures online. The color of the bright middle part contains no yellow, it's way more of a highlighter green I would say... Hopefully it looks better when taken out to the court on a sunny day.
 
I asked for a heavier SW and had two to choose from:

With plastic wrapper on handle

#9 10.92oz bal 7.5ptsHL sw: 296
or
#10 10.94pz bal 7.pts HL sw: 296

I went with the first one.
String and overgrip should get me to 324 SW give or take.

My first extremesicle pro is 315 SW strung and overgrip
I took off the leather grip and played worse. So I’m putting it back on.
 
Ryebread said:
I asked for a heavier SW and had two to choose from:

With plastic wrapper on handle

#9 10.92oz bal 7.5ptsHL sw: 296
or
#10 10.94pz bal 7.pts HL sw: 296

I went with the first one.
String and overgrip should get me to 324 SW give or take.

My first extremesicle pro is 315 SW strung and overgrip
I took off the leather grip and played worse. So I’m putting it back on.
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TennisHound said:
The 360+ was very soft feeling, with no odd vibes, or harshness. The Auxetic has a hint of all of these. Granted, its all subtle, and the string plays a role, but the 360+ with the current string pattern would be a winner. Even so, the Aux MP is good enough to switch to.
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I hit with the new MP today & was pleasantly surprised. It was so easy to shape the ball & a nice flexible feeling to it. It had really good control too, definitely interested in trying the Pro too. I’m currently playing with the VCORE 98 Tour & this has my attention. I’m inbetween Summer & Fall season, so trying out new racquets.
 
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KC! said:
I hit with the

I hit with the new MP today & was pleasantly surprised. It was so easy to shape the ball & a nice flexible feeling to it. It had really good control too, definitely interested in trying the Pro too. I’m currently playing with the VCORE 98 Tour & this has my attention. I’m inbetween Summer & Fall season, so trying out new racquets.
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I've also hit with the MP for about 45 mins with an older 4.5 guy (that can't move). Pretty good control...Its definitely a cool racquet.
 
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How is the pop compared to the Blade you demo'd? I currently use the Blade v9 98 16x19 and looking for a bit more pop without losing too much control. I find the Blade 98 demanding in tougher matches.
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Chalk and cheese. Way more pop, comfier power, not much loss of control, easier access to spin. Perhaps not the “is this thing part of my arm?” feeling as with the Blade, but v comfy and responsive.
 

As with most other reviews the MP is basically the same save for feel.


Says the Pro is an improvement.
 
The Extreme MP is too powerful for flat hitters. As much as I loved the Aux. MP for the spin and arguably the best I had ever served, it was difficult to control on flat shots which is why I'm going to the Pro this generation. Jonas has never liked frames with dampening. As a person that's had arm issues I much prefer muted frames now as I can string with higher tension and swing out more without fear of fatiguing my arm so it's a personal preference thing when it comes to dampening technology.
 
heavyD said:
The Extreme MP is too powerful for flat hitters. As much as I loved the Aux. MP for the spin and arguably the best I had ever served, it was difficult to control on flat shots which is why I'm going to the Pro this generation. Jonas has never liked frames with dampening. As a person that's had arm issues I much prefer muted frames now as I can string with higher tension and swing out more without fear of fatiguing my arm so it's a personal preference thing when it comes to dampening technology.
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This is true. I myself cannot jive with muted frames. I hated the Yonex VDM mesh. I prefer auxetic 1.0 over 2.0 in all of Head’s models as well, simply because auxetic 1.0 frames are less muted. But this is all subjective, someone else can have the total opposite preference.
 
Alcawrath said:
Jonas also talks about not liking the feel. He mentioned he felt disconnected from the ball with the new line. Also, the Gladiator extreme mp review identified a lack of control with the frame.
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Grisha's somewhat recent Vcore 100 review was much more positive, both due to control (which he personally often connects to stability) and feel. Kinda tough since those two things are kinda supposed to be the MP's advantages.
 
jimdontcare said:
Grisha's somewhat recent Vcore 100 review was much more positive, both due to control (which he personally often connects to stability) and feel. Kinda tough since those two things are kinda supposed to be the MP's advantages.
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I’m currently maining the VCORE 98 Tour. I find the new Extreme MP very similar playability. Even though the VCT is a 98, it feels like a 100 with the isometric head shape. I love the new Extreme MP on serve & slices. It feels more controlled than the VCORE 100. It definitely has my attention with its lighter weight compared to the VCT & similar playability.
 
In what can only be described as an 'impulse' purchase, I've bought the Extreme Pro last week to give it a go, I had it strung with RPM blasts @ 52lbs my usual string of choice

Player wise I think by US standards I'm around 4.5-5 with a mostly sliced single handed backhand, I normally play with a Prince Ats tour 95 and I'm the first to admit that normally I wouldn't go for such a spin focussed racket, but I have been craving a bit more spin and power, while looking for an arm friendly racket with similar specs to the Prince. Oh an I love the yellow!

Having played about 4-5 times with it now I'm still undecided how I feel, the racket is definitely fun to play with, it generates great spin, its very maneuverable, decent power, good touch, and I didn't suffer any stability issues. It was particularly fun at doubles with the extra angles you can create, and I have to admit that i can easily hit spin and angled shots that I can't replicate with the Prince.

Equally, as expected with a spin frame, its more challenging to hit flatter shots with and despite having a similar swing weight to the Prince I've been struggling a bit with my weight of shot. Both of these are probably more down to me needing to adjust my technique and/or add a bit of weight. What has been a worry though is that I've started feeling some soreness in my wrist (a new problem) and my sensitive elbow has sent the odd warning sign. This could again be down to adapting my technique a bit, or could be down to the extra stiffness in the racket.

I think for players who like spin frames this is well worth a go, I've trialed the radical, boom, speed and gravity lines and out of all them this is by far the most enjoyable racket I've tried from Head.
 
Deki said:
Yesterday pulled the trigger and bought new MP and played doubles. Never was a fan of tweener frames but I was surprised how good I was playing with it. MP was strung with factory string, believe it’s Lynx.
Specs are: 321.5g with plastic on the handle
SW 326g
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Played first single match with MP, three sets vs a guy where we are on the same level and won 62 60 61. Have restrung it with Cyclone 1.30 and guess have a sw cca 328g. Good power and spin. Touch was very good where I had some wild drops Shots. Very good on serves, really good kick and placement of the ball. Control is not like by my Prestige YTIG Pro or 6.1 but is decent.
Surprisingly I didn’t have issues with flat shots and balls were staying in. Still need play a couple of months to dial in.
My plan is to add some weight to the handle, like 10-15g to make racket more head light. Still not sure to add silicone or copper tape under the base grip, cause copper tape will increase slightly grip size.
Also, racket felt plush and sound that is producing is like a shotgun shot!
 
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TW spec for SW is 322 SW which is acceptable to me for a frame in this segment
My 1st one was 315 SW with 17L poly and overgrip, I found this unacceptable

When we are buying a pro/tour, we expect a basement of 320 SW strung.
a tour/pro should have a 322-325 starting point.
at these prices, we expect MORE.
and we don't expect to have to play lottery system
we don't want to waste time buying from someone who accepts returns
I wish I didn't have to spend $30 to have TW go and measure frames.
there is a spec, and we want that spec
there should not be a need to tinker so much with lead!

TE's youtube review, his pro was 308.5 SW strung!
This is ridiculous!
at the factory, they should be rejecting the sticks that are 14 pts low!

it's not just head, but yes they are pretty bad.
yonex is the best, but they have room for improvement as well. I had a few percepts and a vcore 98 tour, that were surprisingly off spec.


1st purchase, lottery based:

virgin
10.72 OZ
303.9 GRAMS
31.5CM BAL

with 17L poly
11.29
320.1
32.5

plus OG
11.50
326
32.00
SW 316.5 measured nearby on wilson baiadro



2nd purchase, paid $30 to get this spec from a list:

plastic wrapper on handle:
10.86 OZ
307.9 GRAMS
31.65CM BAL
SW 296 measured at TW

virgin
10.79 OZ
305.9 GRAMS
31.75CM BAL

with 17L poly
11.36 OZ
322.05 GRAMS
32.75CM BAL

plus OG
11.57 OZ
328 GRAMS
32.4CM BAL

final SW
(give me a few hours)

so my #1 vs #2 with string and OG:
326 grams vs 328 grams
32 cm vs. 32.4 cm
but SW is going to be 316.5 vs. around 322 hopefully
 
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in post #345 I added some specs
both frames are 303.9 unstrung
and balance is similar, not identical.

I am really curious what my SW will come in, once I'm done stringing.
321 is my guess?
 
Ryebread said:
TW spec for SW is 322 SW which is acceptable to me for a frame in this segment
My 1st one was 315 SW with 17L poly and overgrip, I found this unacceptable
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I think TW measures their frames with 1.25mm polys (16L rather than 17L). Depending on your string (1.18, 1.19 or 1.20mm), there's a chance your frame is on spec.
 
Had my first 90 minutes with the Pro today. 333g static, 32.1cm balance, strung with lynx tour/msv bussard at 22kg (unstrung 307g, 31.7cm). I have no chance to check SW, but I have ezones with 289 unstrung and a Blade with 326 strung, and the Extreme Pro is harder to swing and maneuver than both of them, so I'm guessing for a high 320 SW.
All in all I would say I'm a bit disappointed, but it might be due to the SW it might have, which I'm just not able to use properly on this on. I played an ET Aux 1.0 last year with about 6 grams less and I found it to play better.
The Pro is still whippy at this spec somehow, but I was late on the one hander very ofter, which I'm not on let's say a boom pro or a Blade or an ezone. I hit so backhands in the net, very much because I didn't catch it in the sweetspot, but I didn't feel the mishit.

I could write more details, but I don't think it's Very different to the ET Aux 1.0. Slightly more stable and very dampened.

Still I'm very tempted to string up the second one I purchased (304g, 31.6cm) and see if I get any benefits from the lighter weight.
 
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I played the new MP. 303g static, SW unknown but felt on the lower side.
The good :
- very manouverable, goes fast through the air
- good spin
The bad :
- ball it produces is spinny but lacks heaviness, opponent didn't have any trouble with it
- slices have tendency to float, you have to be carefull there
- first serves lack power
- very dampened feel
The racquet loves fast compact swings (Berrettini style) and punishes hitting flatter with longer slower swings. Not for everyone, not for me. I much preffered Boom MP from the "easy to play" category.
 
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