Head Extreme 2024 Thread

In an effort to avoid further TE inflammation, is the difference in comfort between the EP and a '23 Radical MP enough to warrant a switch? Given both racquets will be strung with the same string (i.e. multi for now) and at the same tension.

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Seems that poly strings (and probably over training) has caused some light TE. I rotated between full bed of Lynx Tour and hybrid of Lynx Tour / Velocity on the Radicals. So not sure if even a hybrid set up will prevent further issues. My thought process is to get the EP and string with TF Biphase. Or will I get the same result, in terms of arm comfort, with my current Radical strung with the same full bed of multi? I should be getting back one of my Radicals with a full bed of Velocity at 50lbs soon.
 
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I guess Struff wasn't happy with his Head extreme prostack raquets. After his loss tonight at us open he threw out 3 of his racquets into the crowd like as though he was giving away towels lmao. I'm sure there are people in this thread who would have gladly taken them off his hands.
 
iLuveKetchup said:
In an effort to avoid further TE inflammation, is the difference in comfort between the EP and a '23 Radical MP enough to warrant a switch? Given both racquets will be strung with the same string (i.e. multi for now) and at the same tension.

Edit (more info):
Seems that poly strings (and probably over training) has caused some light TE. I rotated between full bed of Lynx Tour and hybrid of Lynx Tour / Velocity on the Radicals. So not sure if even a hybrid set up will prevent further issues. My thought process is to get the EP and string with TF Biphase. Or will I get the same result, in terms of arm comfort, with my current Radical strung with the same full bed of multi? I should be getting back one of my Radicals with a full bed of Velocity at 50lbs soon.
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A full bed of X-One Biphase will make a huge difference on its own so I would try that first before switching frames. Not sure what your normal tensions are but I would bump it up 4-5 lbs at the very least when going full bed of multi.
 
I have been playing with the new Extreme Pro for the last month with full bed of poly and I also find it very comfortable. I really like this frame and have been using it exclusively since I got it.
 
So I was in the TW playtest for the Extreme Pro. I used hybrid stringing(poly mains, multi crosses) and I enjoyed using the racket as is but I wasn't "wow" with it. I changed the grip to a leather and I like it better. I ordered some lead tape and am going to add weight to the grip and to 3 and 9 o'clock and see.
 
Tried this racket tonight, absolute monster but I’m missing the whole spin machine part. This hit flatter and lower than my speed pro and blade 18x20. Might be the strings I think it was hawk touch mains velocity crosses?
 
Bigmctennis said:
Tried this racket tonight, absolute monster but I’m missing the whole spin machine part. This hit flatter and lower than my speed pro and blade 18x20. Might be the strings I think it was hawk touch mains velocity crosses?
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Definitely strings. I was on the Hawk Power and Hawk Touch playtest. Used the Extreme Pro with Hawk Touch full bed and spin was minimal. I have my regular Solinco Hyper G 17 and it has way more spin.
 
Bigmctennis said:
Tried this racket tonight, absolute monster but I’m missing the whole spin machine part. This hit flatter and lower than my speed pro and blade 18x20. Might be the strings I think it was hawk touch mains velocity crosses?
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You mean lower launch angle?
 
I have an EP shipping out. Can anyone compare to blade 98 16/19 v9 that’s hit both? Are they comparable in terms of spin, power, stability, control, and comfort? Thanks
 
ballistic said:
I have an EP shipping out. Can anyone compare to blade 98 16/19 v9 that’s hit both? Are they comparable in terms of spin, power, stability, control, and comfort? Thanks
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Yeah I've played with both extensively - Extreme Pro I found to be a comfortable, whippy control frame with better spin potential than the blade v9 98. Power - I find the Blade to hit a deeper, more penetrating ball, and I feel like I get slightly more power on my serves, but maybe kick serves are nastier with the EP. Blade is more stable, comfort levels are the same, control maybe slightly better with the Blade but not too different.
 
Fighting phoenix said:
Yeah I've played with both extensively - Extreme Pro I found to be a comfortable, whippy control frame with better spin potential than the blade v9 98. Power - I find the Blade to hit a deeper, more penetrating ball, and I feel like I get slightly more power on my serves, but maybe kick serves are nastier with the EP. Blade is more stable, comfort levels are the same, control maybe slightly better with the Blade but not too different.
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Great comparison, thank you. I’m looking forward to hitting it. How close is the launch angle between both?
 
iLuveKetchup said:
In an effort to avoid further TE inflammation, is the difference in comfort between the EP and a '23 Radical MP enough to warrant a switch? Given both racquets will be strung with the same string (i.e. multi for now) and at the same tension.

Edit (more info):
Seems that poly strings (and probably over training) has caused some light TE. I rotated between full bed of Lynx Tour and hybrid of Lynx Tour / Velocity on the Radicals. So not sure if even a hybrid set up will prevent further issues. My thought process is to get the EP and string with TF Biphase. Or will I get the same result, in terms of arm comfort, with my current Radical strung with the same full bed of multi? I should be getting back one of my Radicals with a full bed of Velocity at 50lbs soon.
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So answered my own question. Got a matched pair of EPs, one with Solinco hybrid - Tour Bite 17g / Vanquish 16g both at 45lbs and another with Velocity 17g at 50lbs.
  • Good plow through stock. Still needs a bit of lead to get it where I want, but impressive out of the box.
  • It felt like a Radical MP but with more pop.
  • I guess I like the muted feel of Auxetic 2.0.
  • No need for full bed of multi. A hybrid of poly/multi feels fine on my arm.
Going to try lead at 10 & 2 next and then leather. I like this frame a lot!
 
Anyone that can compare the extreme pro to the boom pro and speed pro? (Probably with VCT 1.30 and a leather grip)

I've played with the percept 330 last year but it's too demanding when on the defence on claycourts after a while. (That sweet sweet feeling on volleys though ...)

Comparison would include:
Comfort / maneuverability (these first two are the most important), spin / power / control and overall ability to play all court game with some counterpunching.
 
Very cool looking stick but it doesn't seem to be getting any love. How forgiving is the pro compared to the radical outside the sweetspot?
 
Just sharing that it doesn’t sell well here in Thailand. Yea the rackets are great but they are not significantly different from the previous version, but people hate the color. Never seen clients ask for previous model rather than new model more than this one.
 
Tan Tennis said:
Just sharing that it doesn’t sell well here in Thailand. Yea the rackets are great but they are not significantly different from the previous version, but people hate the color. Never seen clients ask for previous model rather than new model more than this one.
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Same in Korea regarding popularity
 
I tested the pro last week and tbh it looks better in person. I dont mind the paint job but it is too light. I need to do some modding and the lead strips will be very visible.
Someone invent colored lead.

Btw the pro is a nice spin/control racket with not much power. It could use some stability but its far more stable than for example the Ezone 98.
Coming from a modded Ezone i dont consider it very muted - hitting feels crisp.
 
Honza said:
I tested the pro last week and tbh it looks better in person. I dont mind the paint job but it is too light. I need to do some modding and the lead strips will be very visible.
Someone invent colored lead.
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If you dont need too much weight at 12 and youre planning to place it under the bumper guard after removing it, the finishing tape from the stock hydrosorb can be used to cover it.
Also the are some permanent sprays (edding or whatever) that can be used to color the lead tape to add some camouflage effect. If i werent a constant undecided racket switcher, it would be worth the effort for me.
Honza said:
Btw the pro is a nice spin/control racket with not much power. It could use some stability but its far more stable than for example the Ezone 98.
Coming from a modded Ezone i dont consider it very muted - hitting feels crisp.
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I played them yesterday side by side with similar static, balance and SW (289-290 unstrung) and i totally agree with what you say.
I ways always convinced it was the other way around and was suprised and have to revert what i said before on this thread, Aux 2.0 did a solid job on the Extreme Pro
 
How does the Extreme Pro 2024 compare to Boom Pro 2024 in terms of comfort and control?

Is the Exteme Pro closest 98 in heads lineup to Radical MP 23?
 
I really like the Extreme Pro on the one handed backhand. I have been using 100's for so long I forgot how much nicer a 98 moves through the air on the one hander.
 
I feel the pro has a little more pop than some suggest. Loving it!
I still gives me the control I need, too. But it’s more potent than a blade 98 IMO or 100D.
Much better on both serve and 2hbh.
 
Ashton20 said:
How does the Extreme Pro 2024 compare to Boom Pro 2024 in terms of comfort and control?

Is the Exteme Pro closest 98 in heads lineup to Radical MP 23?
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Comfort on both is very good for me, slightly better on the Boom Pro because of the naturally bigger sweets pot. Boom pro seems to have the edge in terms of depth control on flatter shots, extreme pro better directional control and precision, at least to me.

The Extreme Pro is said to be similar (some say almost interchangeable) to the Radical MP, but for me they don't play that much alike, the Radicals launch angle for example is lower and always a thing I had to get used to when picking up this one.
 
Ryebread said:
I feel the pro has a little more pop than some suggest. Loving it!
I still gives me the control I need, too. But it’s more potent than a blade 98 IMO or 100D.
Much better on both serve and 2hbh.
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The 100D has more pop for sure but less spin.

The big advantage with the Extreme Pro are the angles you can generate. That way you open up the court a lot easier. As mentioned, it is a nice control/spin racket.
 
Honza said:
The 100D has more pop for sure but less spin.

The big advantage with the Extreme Pro are the angles you can generate. That way you open up the court a lot easier. As mentioned, it is a nice control/spin racket.
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So bizarre
I’ve hit the 100d for over 200 hours
The EP for about 50 hours so far.

I feel the EP has more pop with the same exact string.

Pure Rush
51/49 EP
48/45 100d bc more dense

With the EP I can do more damage.

If I’m off my game - I switch to the yy. After about 2-3 mins of hitting I’m dialed in and have a bit more control and little less power.
 
EP is the only Head frame unplayable for me stock. Fluttery, unstable, underpowered, just.. plain bad. Luckly 3g of lead at 10 and 2 transform it into something decent.
 
_FrankTheTank_ said:
Bought 3 and all felt different but only one felt like like you descibre. The other two were playable/fine as they are.
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Yeah - I played the Tour for a bit, and they were all around the mid 310s sw strung and needed to weight to be more substantial. The Extreme Pros I tried all had swingweights in the low 320s stock, and played much more solid than Aux 1.0.
 
Yea I suspect SW might be underspec on mine (balance and static are spot on though).
The paintjob looks insanely good, way better than pictures suggested what surprised me, as I generally don't like flashy or bright yellow racquets.
 
I have had three EP
316 323 322 swing weight strung and overgrip
I can say that even the 316 frame plays very well at 4.0, good pace too, no moon-ballers here!
 
I got lucky as my two Extreme Pro's come in at 327 and 328 (strung with 17g) which is very playable for me.
 
Ordered an extreme pro, using a radical MP at the moment, hoping the frame is similar with more comfort and spin without sacrificing too much control.
 
Ashton20 said:
Ordered an extreme pro, using a radical MP at the moment, hoping the frame is similar with more comfort and spin without sacrificing too much control.
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You will lose some depth control and directional control (not much) and maybe just a touch lauch consitency but will gain good comfort (if frame is on spec) and higher launch and more spin.
Also The EP is marketed as spin&power frame, for me it's still a (modern) players frame, so control to dictate fram all over the court is there for sure. You might have to play a bit less aggressive as with the Radical or what the radical playstyle is supposed to be.
 
Ryebread said:
I have had three EP
316 323 322 swing weight strung and overgrip
I can say that even the 316 frame plays very well at 4.0, good pace too, no moon-ballers here!
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Just measured mine in a shop. 319SW strung with Hyper-G 1.25. For me it played best with 3g at 10 and 2, giving aroud 325 SW. Tried adding more but it reduced manouverability to much.
 
lazywombat said:
Just measured mine in a shop. 319SW strung with Hyper-G 1.25. For me it played best with 3g at 10 and 2, giving aroud 325 SW. Tried adding more but it reduced manouverability to much.
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319 isn't bad.

my 316 with a total of 2 grams at 12, plays nice.
but my 323 frame stock, is great too.

cheers
 
Now I am torn between this and stock Boom Pro. EP is easier to swing, has better directional control and less muted feel, on the other hand Boom hits heavier ball, has larger sweetspot and is more stable on backhand. I'm afrad i would have to buy both and play many matches with them to get definitive answer which one suits my game better.
 
A bit one dimensional. Good for windshield wiper style forhand, but dificult to flaten out or play touch shots. Requires very fast swing speed to get power. It's not bad, just way less universal than Pro.
 
Got my extreme pro;
302.00g
283sw

Luckily I’m stringing with lynx tour which is heavy, expecting 319sw strung. Not sure if I should add 2g at 12 and a bit of blue tac on the trap door. I usually play with frames at 325sw. But isn’t this frame intended to be whippy and may play better with a 320sw?
 
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Ashton20 said:
Got my extreme pro;
302.00g
283sw

Luckily I’m stringing with lynx tour which is heavy, expecting 319sw strung. Not sure if I should add 2g at 12 and a bit of blue tac on the trap door. I usually play with frames at 325sw. But isn’t this frame intended to be whippy and may play better with a 320sw?
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I'd start stock and see how it feels, cause yeah the whippiness is really fun and is great for kick serves, whipping through the ball on ground strokes, and touch at the net. Then you can think about adding a little weight in the hoop and butt for more stability. I think it's an awesome frame.
 
Fighting phoenix said:
I'd start stock and see how it feels, cause yeah the whippiness is really fun and is great for kick serves, whipping through the ball on ground strokes, and touch at the net. Then you can think about adding a little weight in the hoop and butt for more stability. I think it's an awesome frame.
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It was 317 which was out of my range, bumped it to 323, 2 at 12.

Just had a 1.5hr hit and wow, great spin and control. Not sure if I agree with mention of high launch, my ball stayed low (when I wanted it to) with heaps of spin which is great for my game as I tend to hit long. Will see how I go over next few weeks.
 
Ashton20 said:
It was 317 which was out of my range, bumped it to 323, 2 at 12.

Just had a 1.5hr hit and wow, great spin and control. Not sure if I agree with mention of high launch, my ball stayed low (when I wanted it to) with heaps of spin which is great for my game as I tend to hit long. Will see how I go over next few weeks.
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Totally agree on the lower launch angle
 
naturalexponent said:
How are we feeling about the 2024 Extreme MP?
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Ill chime in with this. I was on the MP Playtest. I really loved the racket during the playtest. As a long term PD/APD user it really fit my game. But after the playtest...i just keep coming back to it. IMO it much more comfortable than the PD and I feel the power level is more controllable. spin seems to be about the same, maybe a little less. But with that I feel i can flatten out the ball significantly easier and it stays in with the MP. I didn't play the previous versions, but HUGE update from the last version I hit with. Its been awhile since I have been genuinely impressed with a frame and really felt slide right inline with my game style.
 
lazywombat said:
A bit one dimensional. Good for windshield wiper style forhand, but dificult to flaten out or play touch shots. Requires very fast swing speed to get power. It's not bad, just way less universal than Pro.
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I don't agree with flat shots
Touch is more complicated
 
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