Head G360+ Extreme Tour vs Babolat Pure Aero VS

[Okinawa Puroresu]

These racquets have been lauded both on TT and Tennisnerd and YouTube as the big time crossover between the modern spin game and controlled player’s sticks that has actually married well. The retail versions are used today by up and coming pros like Berettini, FAA, Alcaraz, etc.

I’ve seen some reviews comparing them, and there are threads here that look at them individually with some posts comparing the two, but I wanted to know what the overall consensus is among TT about why they would choose one over the other, and what the specific pros and cons are of each, compared to one another.

I have neither of these frames so I can’t speak myself, but I am curious at picking up one over the other to keep up with players of more modernized games. I normally play with a G360+ Prestige Mid in singles and doubles, and sometimes a Pure Strike One Seven 18x20 in doubles, if that helps.

 

[Rentege]

Babolat is gonna be stiffer, more powerful, more forgiving. The Head will have better/more comfortable feel and control. The Head also is more likely to need customization. That’s pretty much the consensus.

 

[yessir]

Man , I am between these two racquets as well.
My Pavs : 324 sw , 32,6 balance , Lynx Tour 1.25 grey 23kg

My ET : 331 sw , 32,6 balance , Hyper G 1.25 23kg

Feel : ET , more pocketing feel.
Forehand : ET , better launch angle
Backhand - Ohb : ET , swings more smoothly for me.
Serves , all serves : PAVs , much easier to generate power.
Volleys : Equal
Dropshots : ET due to feel
Slices : Equal

So with PAVs I serve much much better but with ET I have better groundstrokes.
Dont know which to pick.

 

[Okinawa Puroresu]

It may just be me, but the acclaim I’ve been reading is that these are modern classics and are essentially what an exemplary players’ stick would be for the modern spin game.

With that said, it does seem like the stock price of the Aero VS is going up with Alcaraz having his coming out party lately.

 

[bwongman]

The PAVS is a bit more powerful and a bit more spinny than the Extreme.
The deciding thing for me was the feel. The PAVS just didn't feel as solid on impact

 

[Boubi]

These racquets have been lauded both on TT and Tennisnerd and YouTube as the big time crossover between the modern spin game and controlled player’s sticks that has actually married well. The retail versions are used today by up and coming pros like Berettini, FAA, Alcaraz, etc.

I’ve seen some reviews comparing them, and there are threads here that look at them individually with some posts comparing the two, but I wanted to know what the overall consensus is among TT about why they would choose one over the other, and what the specific pros and cons are of each, compared to one another.

I have neither of these frames so I can’t speak myself, but I am curious at picking up one over the other to keep up with players of more modernized games. I normally play with a G360+ Prestige Mid in singles and doubles, and sometimes a Pure Strike One Seven 18x20 in doubles, if that helps.

To me the extreme tour had nothing special i much more preferred the MP version
PAVS is so good i almost switched to it
Coming from a PA it's more precise, has more feel
Finally i opted for rs305, better in all departments imo

 

[brentzki]

To me the extreme tour had nothing special i much more preferred the MP version
PAVS is so good i almost switched to it
Coming from a PA it's more precise, has more feel
Finally i opted for rs305, better in all departments imo

How does the RS305 play for that whippy spin game? I’m waiting to demo PAVS and RS305 so would love to know! Probably will end up going with one of them

 

[yessir]

How does the RS305 play for that whippy spin game? I’m waiting to demo PAVS and RS305 so would love to know! Probably will end up going with one of them

PAVs is far better for that spinny game than the RS305 which was ok. Tbh if you want a super spinny baseline game , get a slightly control oriented 100sq - 16x19 like Ezone 100 or Speed mp , put a highly predictable poly such as Lynx Tour or round poly(avoid massively shaped ones) and murder the ball with spin and control. Avoid spin machine frames such as Pure Aero or Extreme Mp cause you will propably not have the rhs needed to keep the ball in.

 

[Okinawa Puroresu]

To me the extreme tour had nothing special i much more preferred the MP version
PAVS is so good i almost switched to it
Coming from a PA it's more precise, has more feel
Finally i opted for rs305, better in all departments imo

What were you seeking when you got the PAVS originally? Did you want something nice and whippy but slightly more stable? Or were you looking for a modern players stick that had more spin and forgiveness?

 

[Boubi]

What were you seeking when you got the PAVS originally? Did you want something nice and whippy but slightly more stable? Or were you looking for a modern players stick that had more spin and forgiveness?

Wanted more precision. It's also more manœuvrable
In general i test just for the sake of it
Another interesting racquet was the sx300 tour (2020), very stable, also comparable to PA but better in all departements

 

[Boubi]

How does the RS305 play for that whippy spin game? I’m waiting to demo PAVS and RS305 so would love to know! Probably will end up going with one of them

As 305 has a higher SW and is 3HL vs 6 HL, it will not whip as much as PAVS
For me not an issue, i hit relatively flat

 

[Leen]

How is the comfort of the PAVS? I tried the Aero Tour last week and my elbow and wrist were tingly just 5 min in with synthetic gut. The extreme tour would make my fore arm soar time to time but nothing unbearable.

 

[Boubi]

How is the comfort of the PAVS? I tried the Aero Tour last week and my elbow and wrist were tingly just 5 min in with synthetic gut. The extreme tour would make my fore arm soar time to time but nothing unbearable.

Great confort, nothing to report
Strung with luxilon 4G (unknown tension)

 

[brentzki]

PAVs is far better for that spinny game than the RS305 which was ok. Tbh if you want a super spinny baseline game , get a slightly control oriented 100sq - 16x19 like Ezone 100 or Speed mp , put a highly predictable poly such as Lynx Tour or round poly(avoid massively shaped ones) and murder the ball with spin and control. Avoid spin machine frames such as Pure Aero or Extreme Mp cause you will propably not have the rhs needed to keep the ball in.

I’ve demo’d with the pure aero and can defs hit consistent heavy topspin balls from baseline given I have a 1.30mm gauge string in. Probs the racket I've played the best with since demo’ing around. My only issue was just how hard it is to flatten out shots when you have a put away winner. Seems to be a very fine line on the pure aero. Was hoping that maybe PAVS could solve that whilst still maintaining most of the properties and things I like to produce heavy balls on Pure Aero. Something about that beam just agrees with me…

 

[makey98]

How would you compare aero vs to ezone 2020 98 tour? More or less power? Any other thoughts would be appreciated. Obviously stiffer frame according to RA but the ezone felt stiffer to me and ended up causing some elbow issues…. So looking to start over with the racquet search.

 

[Okinawa Puroresu]

How would you compare aero vs to ezone 2020 98 tour? More or less power? Any other thoughts would be appreciated. Obviously stiffer frame according to RA but the ezone felt stiffer to me and ended up causing some elbow issues…. So looking to start over with the racquet search.

I think @yessir is the most qualified person here to evaluate.

 

[yessir]

I think @yessir is the most qualified person here to evaluate.

Ezone Tour will have more power due to higher swingweight but beware power doesnt equal launch angle. Pavs will have a higher launch angle while the Ezone Tour will have one of the lowest on 16x19 patterns. Also , Ezone tour caused elbow problems to Karue (Mytennishq) , who was an ATP 400 pro tennis player. So if he gets elbow problems than something must be wrong with the racquet , havent heard any getting elbow pain from PAVs.

 

[veelium]

I’ve demo’d with the pure aero and can defs hit consistent heavy topspin balls from baseline given I have a 1.30mm gauge string in. Probs the racket I've played the best with since demo’ing around. My only issue was just how hard it is to flatten out shots when you have a put away winner. Seems to be a very fine line on the pure aero. Was hoping that maybe PAVS could solve that whilst still maintaining most of the properties and things I like to produce heavy balls on Pure Aero. Something about that beam just agrees with me…

The older models in the aero were so much nicer for flattening out shots due to the denser middle main strings.

 

[Bartelby]

It seems wise at this point to see what an Auxetic version of the Extreme Tour would look like given that it's probably only six months away.

 

[Leen]

It seems wise at this point to see what an Auxetic version of the Extreme Tour would look like given that it's probably only six months away.

Pure aero updates might be coming up too?

 

[Okinawa Puroresu]

Pure aero updates might be coming up too?

I think the new Aeros are definitely coming this year, but I think @Babolat Official account didn’t mention a new Aero VS coming along with them in their official thread.

 

[Babolat Official]

Hi Leen,

There will be a new Pure Aero this year, late in the year, with the rest of the family launching in 2023. There won't be a new Pure Aero VS however, just the new Pure Strike VS.

Josh

 

[Leen]

Hi Leen,

There will be a new Pure Aero this year, late in the year, with the rest of the family launching in 2023. There won't be a new Pure Aero VS however, just the new Pure Strike VS.

Josh

Really appreciate the response!!! Then think I might jump in on the current models. Ty