Head Graphene 360+ Prestige Pro Club

Peedub

New User
I believe they are glued and stapled, but its not the tension on the strings that is the problem. Every time I tighten my grip on the racquet you hear an annoying creaking/grinding noise and feel from the bottom of the grip. I had a friend try it out and he noticed the same thing. I just bought the racquet less than 3 weeks ago so I would rather them replace it with a proper one rather than tear the new grip off and put cement on it.
I had the same problem with both of mine from TWE. Ended up removing the caps, wrapping an extra layer of double sided-tape on the end of the handle so that I had to force the cap back on and then re-staple. I also have another 2 from other sources that I got a while ago and they seem to be fine.
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
I had the same problem with both of mine from TWE. Ended up removing the caps, wrapping an extra layer of double sided-tape on the end of the handle so that I had to force the cap back on and then re-staple. I also have another 2 from other sources that I got a while ago and they seem to be fine.
That stinks. I just ordered another one so that I have one to use while my other one gets checked for a warranty replacement. It will be interesting to see if this new one has the same issue. Kind of disheartening because this is an amazing racquet!
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
I actually just ordered another G36+ PP and it has no issues with the butt cap like the one I sent to TE for warranty service.

I really love Head Lynx Edge in this racquet. It has the perfect balance of spin and stiffness to be very controlled but not to harsh like others I've tried. Anyone else try this string out?
 

taydbear7

Semi-Pro
I'm about to jump on this since it's $50 off. I have the Touch and love everything about it except the feel at the net is way off which is a major part of my game.
 

kailash

Professional
About to become a member of the club!

What strings/tensions are best? Full bed of poly or poly/syn.gut?
 

kailash

Professional
I'm about to jump on this since it's $50 off. I have the Touch and love everything about it except the feel at the net is way off which is a major part of my game.
Yes, good discount.

I am in the same boat and jumped. From Touch to 360+. Feel is better with the new version.
 

JustTennis76

Professional
I currently play with the Youtek Prestige Pro. Can someone compare that to this new 360 version? I am totally happy with my current rackets and have a few of them. With the $50 off, I’m itching to get one and try.
 

taydbear7

Semi-Pro
Well I got two matches and 1 hitting session in and I actually prefer the MP. I had more control and consistency with the MP. I will say the strings in there were terrible and felt deal to me. There was no snap back at all. It was a hybrid of Laserfibre and I couldn't find the name on the other string.
 
Taydbear; how did they compare power wise...I keep hearing the 360+ has no power...I play mostly the Touch mid and Touch Pro....was thinking of trying a 360+ but torn which to get...
 

Bobble

Semi-Pro
Taydbear; how did they compare power wise...I keep hearing the 360+ has no power...I play mostly the Touch mid and Touch Pro....was thinking of trying a 360+ but torn which to get...
i find the 360+ line has more power than the touch line overall, the Pro 360+ has plenty (more) power compared to the touch pro.
 

taydbear7

Semi-Pro
Taydbear; how did they compare power wise...I keep hearing the 360+ has no power...I play mostly the Touch mid and Touch Pro....was thinking of trying a 360+ but torn which to get...
I'm glad you asked me that. I actually prefer the Touch because it has slightly more power than the 360+. The Touch is lacking dare I say touch is the only downfall.

The 360+Pro has more power than the 360+ MP. I like the MP better because it has better control.
 

Icedorb217

Semi-Pro
Just got to say after spending 6+ hours on court with this stick, I am loving it. It is just working for my all court game. Works well in double and singles. Honestly the best thing so far is that you can really feel the ball on the string bed when you hit with pace. Compared to the 360+ MP this thing has the same level of feel when hitting hard but is not a complete noodle.
 

kailash

Professional
About to become a member of the club!

What strings/tensions are best? Full bed of poly or poly/syn.gut?
Now a member.

So far, tried poly/multi (hawk/velocity) and full bed of poly (rpm blast) at 52 pounds. I like the full bed of poly; hybrid is not bad either, but the poly full bed just offers more control and feedback. I will be trying out some more of strings to see which one works better with it.

This racquet is excellent for serving and touch shots; very stable and offers tons of spin and power. IMO, this is one of the most underrated racquets of 2020...definitely should be in the demo list of those looking for a modern players racquet!!
 

Headlightman

New User
What is the spin potential of this racket? I have a very spinny technique and play with the vcore 98, however i want something more controlled and i want to at least have the option to hit flatter to mix up my hitting and help put the ball away, i can accept that my spin will decrease a little but would still like access to heavy spin if my technique is right
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
I find that since this racquet is a 16x19 pattern it has plenty of spin potential, similar to a 98in 16x19 pattern. I have had no issues going flat with this racquet when needed and it also provides a good amount of pop for a 95in racquet. Like others have said, and I agree with, its not the most forgiving racquet and it makes you want to improve your technique. When you do so it hits a mean ball, great depth, above average spin, and it becomes a scalpel at the net with the proper strings in it.
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
Would alu power be a good string for this racket, id be open to new strings but alu power is currently my string of choice
I haven't tried Alu Power in this frame yet, but I think it should work well. I can only talk from my experience, but the PP seems to like strings that have above average ball pocketing and tends to not like stiffer strings. In my opinion, the 95in head already gives you plenty of control so a stiff string in it is just overkill. I gave Hyper G soft a go in this frame but it ended up still being to stiff for my taste, even though the stiffness rating is low for that string. There is something in HG and HGS that just makes in too unforgiving. The past 2 weeks I have being testing Mayami Tour Hex and its been bliss in the PP. Perfect amount of crispness, great pocketing, and above average spin. Head Lynx Edge and Lynx Tour also work well in this frame. I'm still trying to find the perfect string for the PP and so far Tour Hex is the closest by far.
 

Headlightman

New User
The prestige pro got its start in 08 with the microgel line as basically a pro staff 6.1 competitor. Think stan Wawrinka played it for a while before switching to yonex.

The only version I have experience with was the IG pro, which luckily was a devastatingly good 1st strike type racket.
That one came stock with a leather grip and then I plugged 4 g of lead at 10/2 and an og which got the static weight above 350 but it still came around reasonably well. The original RF auto gave it a run for the money but ultimately it was too disconnected to unseat the IG pro.

Have high hopes the current pro will be a good frame for attack/ move forward players. Do see that the SW is pretty high with the newer versions so maybe lead isn't needed but tail weight might still be mandatory.

If it stays true to its roots you do need to get the upper hand in the 1st 3 shots for this frame to be helping you.
Have you had a chance to try it yet?
 

Headlightman

New User
I also would also heartily recommend a demo of the Prestige Pro 360+. It is solid, responsive, a great slicer and an outstanding volleyer.

I am currently using the Blade v7 16x19, and I have not yet decided if I will make the switch.

My Blade v7 16x19-s weigh in at 340g, 6 pt HL, with leather grip, OG, and a few grams in the hoop at roughly 10 and 2. I will be adding more weight in the hoop, after 6 months of heavy use, to increase the twist weight and hopefully improve the slice and volley, aspects that have me demoing the PP.

Here are my takes on the the Presige Pro 360+ vs Blade v7 16x19. Standout features of the Presige Pro 360+ are Bold+Ital+Underlined.

Topspin forehand and one-handed backhand - Blade v7 16x19. I can get more lift, more spin, more dip and a higher bounce with the Blade. That said, when I got the PP set up in time, my forehand was a weapon, flatter shots had very satisfying pace and great dictional control. I didn't feel like I had the same bite and loopy possibilities, as my PP was feeling heavier and less whippy than my Blades (even at the same 340g static weight) so I was not getting the same arc. My OHBH was on and off with the PP, but it often takes me a few hours drilling backhands to dial in a new stick for consistency. I was able to get a nice OHBH groove a times with the PP, although without as much loop and dip as with the Blade.

Comfort - Blade v7 16x19. The Blade is soft and responsive with good feedback and great feel with the right string setup. The Presige Pro 360+ is also responsive, but crisper and more direct feeling. I enjoy the feel of both, but the Blade is definitely more comfortable and more forgiving on off-center hits. The Presige Pro 360+ was not too jarring off center. The sweet spot felt smaller on the PP (as would be expected with a 95 sq inch head), despite TWU's data.

Control - Blade v7 16x19. I find the Blade to have better spin capability and control. It is faster through the air even with a bit of weight in the hoop, a leather grip and OG, at 340g static weight, 328 SW, 6pt HL. The exception to the Blade winning control is stability against big incoming pace, where the PP wins out easily IMO. *** I suspect that my Presige Pro 360+ demo is above spec for SW. A spec SW for the PP might be more comparable for spin and maneuverability. ***

Stability - Presige Pro 360+. I find the twist weight of the Blade v7 16x19 to be lacking, even with some weight in the hoop at 10/2. (This is one reason why I'm demoing again). The PP redirected heavy incoming pace without a hitch. It felt solid and beefy in comparison to the Blade v7 16x19, which needs good racquet head speed and an on-center hit to make it's buttery-smooth magic goodness shine (and it does have this goodness!). If you catch a big ball off center, the Blade tends to flutter in the hand and feel a bit dead. Not deeply uncomfortable, just a bit boardy.

Maneuverability - Blade v7 16x19. I found my Presige Pro 360+ demo to feel more weighty and slower to set up and get through the air than my Blade v7 16x19s. Both of my blades come in around 328 SW (tested by TW upon purchase of the matching pair). *** I suspect that my Presige Pro 360+ demo is above spec for SW. A spec SW for the PP might be more comparable. ***

Serves - Blade v7 16x19 has the edge for spin serves IMO, Presige Pro 360+ for power on flat serves. The PP also is able to produce spin serves, it was just feeling heavy above my head and I wasn't able to create the kick or slice as well, likely more of a function of my lack of skill than inherent capabilities or limitations of the stick. The PP serves well. It's a stick I can hold loosely, get into a smooth fluid motion and let the stick do the work. The Blade does not feel anywhere near as solid above the head, though it performs well.

Volleys - Presige Pro 360+ by a significant margin (This is one reason why I'm demoing again). The Blade volleys well, but the stick needs a punch to get volleys deep with pace. The PP just needs to be put into position, and the racquet takes it away perfectly. It is a dream volley stick IMO. The only other stick that felt this good volleying to me was the Dunlop CX 200 Tour 16x19, which has a 95sqin sized sweetspot but volleys like a champ. I think the PP slices better than the Dunlop, however.

Slice - Presige Pro 360+ by a significant margin (This is one reason why I'm demoing again). The Blade does not excel on the slice, IMO. I will be adding more weight in the hoop to attempt to improve its slice. The PP is a slice monster, it feels natural and effortless when I was able to execute well. Too good.
What is your backhand technique like? I have been thinking of switching to this from my vcore 98 as i want more control and stability, and at least the option to hit flat. I do enjoy my very spiny backhand though, i use a very spinny technique so was hoping the racket wouldnt be too important for generating spin if paired with a string such as alu power at around 48lbs
 

jriddy35

New User
Demoed the Prestige Pro over the weekend, really enjoyed the feel of it but it felt really sluggish in my hand, particularly the 1HBH, which I thought was strange because all the frames I demoed intentionally had similar specs (~315G unstrung, 6-7 pts HL were the main two I was concerned about) according to Tennis Warehouse.

Looking at the frame after I played today, it said the racquet was 1pt headlight. Given that I was under the assumption that TW specs were all AFTER being strung I thought this seemed really far off in terms of quality control.

Basically what I'm wondering is, does it sound like the demo I received is just very far off in terms of what the racquet is typically manufactured at, or is it more of an even balance when strung and I just misunderstood how that was listed on the website?
 

Return_Ace

Hall of Fame
Demoed the Prestige Pro over the weekend, really enjoyed the feel of it but it felt really sluggish in my hand, particularly the 1HBH, which I thought was strange because all the frames I demoed intentionally had similar specs (~315G unstrung, 6-7 pts HL were the main two I was concerned about) according to Tennis Warehouse.

Looking at the frame after I played today, it said the racquet was 1pt headlight. Given that I was under the assumption that TW specs were all AFTER being strung I thought this seemed really far off in terms of quality control.

Basically what I'm wondering is, does it sound like the demo I received is just very far off in terms of what the racquet is typically manufactured at, or is it more of an even balance when strung and I just misunderstood how that was listed on the website?
When you said "looking at the frame", do you mean as in what's written on the frame? If so it's 1in HL, which equates to 8pts, which is where the 5-6pts strung value comes from (or is supposed to, at least).

If you actually measured it at 1pt HL, then i also wouldn't be terribly surprised, Head QC isn't exceptional and you do get the occasional extreme outliers.
 

jriddy35

New User
When you said "looking at the frame", do you mean as in what's written on the frame? If so it's 1in HL, which equates to 8pts, which is where the 5-6pts strung value comes from (or is supposed to, at least).

If you actually measured it at 1pt HL, then i also wouldn't be terribly surprised, Head QC isn't exceptional and you do get the occasional extreme outliers.
Ahh, that was it. Was speaking to what is written on the frame, so it is most likely correct, just not the racquet for me I guess.
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
Any other updates from the club on strings for this stick that you feel fit this frame? I have gone through about 20 different strings now and I have finally settled on Tour Bite 17g, at least for now...lol. Overly stiff strings are just too much for the tighter pattern, even though it is a 16x19. Any suggests from anyone?
 

mikeeeee

Professional
Any other updates from the club on strings for this stick that you feel fit this frame? I have gone through about 20 different strings now and I have finally settled on Tour Bite 17g, at least for now...lol. Overly stiff strings are just too much for the tighter pattern, even though it is a 16x19. Any suggests from anyone?
I've got two of them. One with Cyclone Tour 17g in the mains and Pro Line 2 16g in the crosses (had half sets left of each so decided to use them in this). It's pretty solid, but want to try out something a little softer and 17g for the whole bed.

The other one has Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge 17g. Feels a bit plasticky and was just trying out a set of this to see where it's at. Will experiment more when I can actually find some time to play.

I want to try Hyper-G soft, Tour Bite (OG and soft), Confidential, Diadem Solstice Power. Full beds and hybriding them with Gamma TNT2 in the crosses
 

4-string

Professional
Lynx Tour 1.25 is great. Currently playing Tourna BHS7T 1.30 which is also a very good option, but I prefer Lynx Tour. Then again I always prefer LT. :)
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
I tried Lynx Tour for a couple months, but just didn't get enough bite out of it. It also seemed to drop tension really quickly.
 

macguyvur

Rookie
Any other updates from the club on strings for this stick that you feel fit this frame? I have gone through about 20 different strings now and I have finally settled on Tour Bite 17g, at least for now...lol. Overly stiff strings are just too much for the tighter pattern, even though it is a 16x19. Any suggests from anyone?
I still think Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 17g (1.23) is just about perfect. The bite, dive, feel, and predictability are all excellent, and I string it one pound less in the crosses to raise the launch angle a little. Feels like the perfect string pairing to me.
 

Notorious_Junkballer

Professional
Is there a new Prestige line of racquets on the way in the near future? I have a Pro 360+ and have been thinking about acquiring another one but was wondering if I should wait for the next model, just in case it turns out to be even better.
 

Curtennis

Semi-Pro
i tried 1.30 Lynx Tour in mine and the launch angle was so flat. When its time for me to try new strings i'll likely jump way down to 1.20 just to see what kind of difference it makes.
Overall i love the power of this racquet, I love the feel, and I love the look.
I'm just not sure 95 makes a ton of sense for my game. I can hardly make myself believe I'll play better with it than a 100" stick.
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
I'm just not sure 95 makes a ton of sense for my game. I can hardly make myself believe I'll play better with it than a 100" stick.
I'm facing the same dilemma currently. I've been playing the the pro for about 2 years now and I'm thinking its time to move on to something more forgiving. I've played some great tennis during this time but these sticks literally give you nothing. You have to be on your game at all times and if you get even the slightest bit lazy it will punish you. I just demoed the Gravity Pro and Radical Pro this past week and to me the Gravity seems to fit my game better. Much more forgiving and even if my footwork was off a bit I wasn't shanking it into the net giving my opponent an easy put away. I'm also going to demo the new Vcore pro and Vcore 98 this week and see if I can move on to one of these options. I'll have 2 PP+'s available soon if anyone is looking :)
 
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