Head Graphene 360+ Speed Pro

Villain

Professional
Coincidentally, I just hit with this the other day. I’ve got a buddy who has one and plays with it stock, just an OG and dampener. I hit with it for awhile with Poly mains and SG crosses, which is a combo I don’t like, and I was loving this stick anyway. I’ve been playing mostly with Gravity Pros recently and I have to say the Head shape on the Speed Pro is just about perfect. The mains spacing between the GP and SP are about the same but the SP has slightly more open spacing on the crosses. More power than the GP if that’s what you want but it is still flexy with nice feel. Really versatile stick and has me wondering if I should just go ahead and order one to mess around with. Something about a 100” 18x20 just works for me really well. Perfect balance of power, spin, and control. I haven’t seen much discussion on the board about this stick but apparently it’s one of Head’s and TW’s best sellers.
 
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What's the final verdict on the Ezone Tour? Was the weight and balance starting to get to you?
For some reason I just could not groove with it and feel fully confident in my game. To be honest it didn't feel as stable as I expected considering weight increase and balance with the weight in the head. I don't think its a bad stick, just in the end not for my game style. The combination of weight in the head and the 4 PT hl balance was just something I really wanted to get used to but I couldn't adapt.... Great serving stick, and felt nice on my BH, but I could never figure out the balance on my FH side. A buddy on my team uses the speed pro and it was a whole new world hitting with it. Honestly it felt even more stable than the EZT and 100x more forgiving bc of the 100 sq inch head... To top it all off the 18x20 was tight enough so I didn't have to worry about slowing my racket head speed to keep it in the court, but yet it there was enough spacing to get easy power and not have to worry about launch angle like in many other 18x20's.
 
Coincidentally, I just hit with this the other day. I’ve got a buddy who has one and plays with it stock, just an OG and dampener. I hit with it for awhile with Poly mains and SG crosses, which is a combo I don’t like, and I was loving this stick anyway. I’ve been playing mostly with Gravity Pros recently and I have to say the Head shape on the Speed Pro is just about perfect. The mains spacing between the GP and SP are about the same but the SP has slightly more open spacing on the crosses. More power than the GP if that’s what you want but it is still flexy with nice feel. Really versatile stick and has me wondering if I should just go ahead and order one to mess around with. Something about a 100” 18x20 just works for me really well. Perfect balance of power, spin, and control. I haven’t seen much discussion on the board about this stick but apparently it’s one of Head’s and TW’s best sellers.
Yeah I was surprised to find little threads regarding the new speed pro it was a landslide better than the previous version. Maybe people are skeptical about so called "new technology" these days and having to justify the much higher price tag that comes with it.. This new stick is definitely an upgrade in both feel and SW and not just a PJ change like people may think.. IDKK
 

Villain

Professional
Yeah I was surprised to find little threads regarding the new speed pro it was a landslide better than the previous version. Maybe people are skeptical about so called "new technology" these days and having to justify the much higher price tag that comes with it.. This new stick is definitely an upgrade in both feel and SW and not just a PJ change like people may think.. IDKK
Yeah, it is strange no one is really talking about it on here but I saw something a couple months ago that said the Speed line was Head’s best selling. Pretty popular in the college ranks from what I gather.
 
Yeah, it is strange no one is really talking about it on here but I saw something a couple months ago that said the Speed line was Head’s best selling. Pretty popular in the college ranks from what I gather.
I have also hear great things about the MP, the Pro plays perfect in stock form and im afraid the MP would be too powerful and need some customization anyways..
 

Artreddy

Rookie
Can anyone compare the MP to the Pro? I wonder if a specified MP with lead plays better than the pro in Stock form
I have MP and Pro. But both play different given 18x20 and 16x19 patterns and have weight differences (pro +10gms in weight). The SW are about the same But the launch angles is what makes them different and also the 10gm weight helps you defend and have a good weight behind the shots using Pro. I customized them with lead, but with the lead I liked the pro better than MP. Although its 18x20, you get good amount of spin and more over better control over the shots.
 
I tried the MP. If it would have been called an IG Speed I would have believed it in terms of feel. Was pleasantly suprised.
Can anyone compare the MP to the Pro? I wonder if a specified MP with lead plays better than the pro in Stock form
With the MP you are going to get better spin and maneuverability with a higher launch angle. If you aren't playing very high level (up to 4.5 NTRP??) tennis, then you will probably be able to rock with this stick in stock form w not many problems. I play mid-level d1 tennis so I thought the Pro would be the more stable and consistent option for me. I have no doubt a customized MP could play better than the stock pro, but I personally don't find leaded rackets play well with my game for some reason. Different strokes for different folks!
 
I have MP and Pro. But both play different given 18x20 and 16x19 patterns and have weight differences (pro +10gms in weight). The SW are about the same But the launch angles is what makes them different and also the 10gm weight helps you defend and have a good weight behind the shots using Pro. I customized them with lead, but with the lead I liked the pro better than MP. Although its 18x20, you get good amount of spin and more over better control over the shots.
Very well said, I think the 18x20 is just about perfect because its accurate but still very forgivable and user friendly. What customizations did you do with the Pro?
 

Artreddy

Rookie
Very well said, I think the 18x20 is just about perfect because its accurate but still very forgivable and user friendly. What customizations did you do with the Pro?
thanks.

Pro is forgiving but more importantly gives you power whenever you push it for, you have to trust your swing and go for it, with MP you can maneuver a bit easily and generate power and spin i.e more user friendly at the cost of control. But among the two, if you can generate your own power pro is better. I am sure there are other threads that talk about the Pro vs MP. personally I felt pro can flatten out and can generate spin when needed where as with MP, flattening shots wasn’t that easy.

my customization: 3 gm total around 10 and 2, ~8 gms in the handle ( mostly silicone + small amount of lead). I tired it at 3 & 9 too, racket felt stable around the center, but for some reason I always like “the feel” when lead is at 10&2 ( may be because its further away from sweet contact point); overall the weight is about 340 grams and balance about ~ 32.5 cm. notice speed looks like it got some thicker beam in the top of the hoop, so I didn’t bother to try putting at 12. Hopefully that helps!
 
thanks.

Pro is forgiving but more importantly gives you power whenever you push it for, you have to trust your swing and go for it, with MP you can maneuver a bit easily and generate power and spin i.e more user friendly at the cost of control. But among the two, if you can generate your own power pro is better. I am sure there are other threads that talk about the Pro vs MP. personally I felt pro can flatten out and can generate spin when needed where as with MP, flattening shots wasn’t that easy.

my customization: 3 gm total around 10 and 2, ~8 gms in the handle ( mostly silicone + small amount of lead). I tired it at 3 & 9 too, racket felt stable around the center, but for some reason I always like “the feel” when lead is at 10&2 ( may be because its further away from sweet contact point); overall the weight is about 340 grams and balance about ~ 32.5 cm. notice speed looks like it got some thicker beam in the top of the hoop, so I didn’t bother to try putting at 12. Hopefully that helps!
Gotcha, thanks for sharing! Hopefully I can rock with it in stock form, but will see how it plays.
 

crash

Rookie
thanks.

Pro is forgiving but more importantly gives you power whenever you push it for, you have to trust your swing and go for it, with MP you can maneuver a bit easily and generate power and spin i.e more user friendly at the cost of control. But among the two, if you can generate your own power pro is better. I am sure there are other threads that talk about the Pro vs MP. personally I felt pro can flatten out and can generate spin when needed where as with MP, flattening shots wasn’t that easy.

my customization: 3 gm total around 10 and 2, ~8 gms in the handle ( mostly silicone + small amount of lead). I tired it at 3 & 9 too, racket felt stable around the center, but for some reason I always like “the feel” when lead is at 10&2 ( may be because its further away from sweet contact point); overall the weight is about 340 grams and balance about ~ 32.5 cm. notice speed looks like it got some thicker beam in the top of the hoop, so I didn’t bother to try putting at 12. Hopefully that helps!
Thanks, that's helpful. I'm interested in both the MP and Pro and how open/closed the string patterns are is my main concern. How open is the 16x19 and how tight is the 18x20? Any chance you can compare the string patterns to some other rackets? Comparisons with the APD (2013 and earlier) or old PD (pre FSI) patterns would be super helpful.
 

Villain

Professional
Thanks, that's helpful. I'm interested in both the MP and Pro and how open/closed the string patterns are is my main concern. How open is the 16x19 and how tight is the 18x20? Any chance you can compare the string patterns to some other rackets? Comparisons with the APD (2013 and earlier) or old PD (pre FSI) patterns would be super helpful.
Can’t speak to the MP, but the Speed Pro is probably the most open 18x20 I’ve played with recently.
 

Artreddy

Rookie
Thanks, that's helpful. I'm interested in both the MP and Pro and how open/closed the string patterns are is my main concern. How open is the 16x19 and how tight is the 18x20? Any chance you can compare the string patterns to some other rackets? Comparisons with the APD (2013 and earlier) or old PD (pre FSI) patterns would be super helpful.
Overall I think you can easily transition to Speed MP from APD, I have detailed the reasons below for. Pure Drive, I am not sure about it, I did play before, I loved the hefty feel but both APD and PD probably may feel the same.

MP feels similar to APD, I didn't compare the string positions, but I can tell you this, my hitting partner who is very resistive to switch rackets transitioned to MP version easily because I suggested him to move to Head Speed MP (he was experiencing wrist issues APD and he used to use RPM blast at very high tension - he is a big Nadal fan ). Now he hits with more spin and control and plays better than before. You lose a bit of power compared to APD, but you get lot more comfort and controlled launch angle I must say. Not that I don't like APD, in fact majority of my tennis wins in tournaments and leagues at 3.5 and 4.0 level came from APD, but after 3 matches in a tournament, shoulder feels like you are about to lose it. Coming back to Speed MP, you will immediately feel transitioned from APD but with lot more comfort. I would say give it a try and demo it from TW.

Coming to your other question on string patterns. I think APD generates more spin compared to MP, you might feel that APD you can control where you place, but I can say you can easily generate your own when you move to MP and you will eventually figure this out how to play to your game. On 18x20 pro, yes the pattern feels like in between 16x19 -> 18x20, not tight at all, but you got both of the worlds I say. if you ever played Prince Textreme Tour 100p which has open 18x20, speed pro plays very similar to it.

I guess you are trying to evaluate a transition from APD to MP/Pro and want to know how spin differs. I would say try MP, Pro together along with APD. If you are used to APD for a long time, it feels awesome when compared to Speeds, but I say long run you should save your arms. When you are testing try playing 3 games in a row with both MP and Pro. And try to serve with full motion and go for big shots and try your APD weak shots and see how it plays. Hopefully this helps!
 

Villain

Professional
I’ve been hitting with the Speed Pro for the last few days now and I’m loving it. I’ve hit several of the previous versions of the Speed Pro and I haven’t enjoyed any of them. Much better feel and stability on this version. I’ve got it strung with gut/poly at 52/49 and it’s a great balance of power, control, spin, and comfort. The Gravity Pro has been my main stick since last summer and this racquet is very similar but with a little more power. Very versatile racquet and I’m going to keep the contest going between the SP and GP. I played it stock the first time, then added 3g at 3@9 and that is about the perfect amount for me based on the feel.
 
I have been playing with it for the last week or so and I am also enjoying it stock form, but definitely thinking of customizing as well. I have it strung with a full bed of lynx edge blue 17g and it does play a little stiff and not much feel so im going to try something else. I think gut poly would play amazing but don't want to hurt the pockets too much so ill keep looking. Villain, would you mind posting a pic of where you have the lead tape, I think ill add some as well before my next session. Also did you counterbalance?
 

Villain

Professional
I have been playing with it for the last week or so and I am also enjoying it stock form, but definitely thinking of customizing as well. I have it strung with a full bed of lynx edge blue 17g and it does play a little stiff and not much feel so im going to try something else. I think gut poly would play amazing but don't want to hurt the pockets too much so ill keep looking. Villain, would you mind posting a pic of where you have the lead tape, I think ill add some as well before my next session. Also did you counterbalance?
No counterbalancing other than an over grip. I don’t like my frames to be too HL. 4-6 HL is my ideal. I use Tourna XLs and they’re around 5g. I don’t know the SW, I just base it off feel and based on matched sticks I used to play with, 335 SWish is perfect for me and I should be pretty close here. I usually start with 5g at the 3&9 and adjust it from there until I like the feel.

 

TennisHound

Legend
The biggest knock against the Graphene Speed Pro has always been - lack of pop on serve. But it hits great everywhere else. Maybe this one is different.
 

Villain

Professional
The biggest knock against the Graphene Speed Pro has always been - lack of pop on serve. But it hits great everywhere else. Maybe this one is different.
It’s all relative I guess but serve power is one of the things I’m really liking on this stick. Then again I mostly only play and demo flexy racquets. This and the Ezone Tour are the two sticks I’ve hit in the last couple years where I immediately noticed a little extra on my serves.
 

Bronc10is

Semi-Pro
Some updates please?
Shopping this stick today!
I just demo’ed a few weeks ago and bought one. What would you like to know?

I loved the Speed pro, wasn’t a lot to dislike, very solid, stable, access to spin and easy to dial it up and go big off the ground whenever needed.
 

Ryebread

Professional
I just demo’ed a few weeks ago and bought one. What would you like to know?

I loved the Speed pro, wasn’t a lot to dislike, very solid, stable, access to spin and easy to dial it up and go big off the ground whenever needed.
the last generation 360 speed pro is at my normal SW. which is the pure aero VS 2020 - which I like a lot. But I’m somewhat interested in going toward a more flexible racket. With that said, the VS is likely one of the more flexible currency Babolat sticks - at 67. But I think the old 360 speed pro is 62!
Not one reviewer including tennisnerd could think of anything negative to say about it, the 360 pro.

yet nobody talks about it

and then the 360+ version came out. And everyone says it is soooo much better than the previous one. But how is that possible lol. Something about a plastic feel in the 360 version?
 

Bronc10is

Semi-Pro
the last generation 360 speed pro is at my normal SW. which is the pure aero VS 2020 - which I like a lot. But I’m somewhat interested in going toward a more flexible racket. With that said, the VS is likely one of the more flexible currency Babolat sticks - at 67. But I think the old 360 speed pro is 62!
Not one reviewer including tennisnerd could think of anything negative to say about it, the 360 pro.

yet nobody talks about it

and then the 360+ version came out. And everyone says it is soooo much better than the previous one. But how is that possible lol. Something about a plastic feel in the 360 version?
I thought the 360 version was solid, felt a little muted but not too much in my opinion.Maybe that’s what people are referring to?
 

Lorenn

Professional
the last generation 360 speed pro is at my normal SW. which is the pure aero VS 2020 - which I like a lot. But I’m somewhat interested in going toward a more flexible racket. With that said, the VS is likely one of the more flexible currency Babolat sticks - at 67. But I think the old 360 speed pro is 62!
Not one reviewer including tennisnerd could think of anything negative to say about it, the 360 pro.

yet nobody talks about it

and then the 360+ version came out. And everyone says it is soooo much better than the previous one. But how is that possible lol. Something about a plastic feel in the 360 version?
Head racquet fans expect a certain feel...graphene threw most of that out the window. Speed Line was always a little different then most Head racquets, it is also a newer line. Speed pro 360 was a good racquet, but the line was missing old school head classic feel. The 360+ tech racquets feel closer to the old school feel. Reviewers also like slightly heavier racquets. Speed line is at a great place for advance players at the moment. Almost exactly the right weight. The racquet handles well for its weight..

Speed MP is a great secondary option. I know you might miss the 18x20, but it really plays well. Still if you like the Speed Pro 360 it is still available forsale. I find the newer racquet better, but that doesn't mean you have to agree.
 
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Lendl

Semi-Pro
I use the 360 Pro and have found it to be excellent. I have 4 grams of lead at 3,9 and use natural gut 17g at 59 lbs. I play competitive 4.5 singles and sometimes hit with 5.0 players which is the only time I have an issue with this racket. It can still get pushed around a bit by real heavy hitters. Maybe a bit more lead could help. I'm really happy with the racket but have been tempted to try the Yonex Ezone 98 Tour to see if that has a bit more free power. The Speed Pro I find to be great when I'm able to be proactive but a little underpowered when I'm on the defensive. It's tough to find a perfect racket so overall I'd give this one an A- for sure.

the last generation 360 speed pro is at my normal SW. which is the pure aero VS 2020 - which I like a lot. But I’m somewhat interested in going toward a more flexible racket. With that said, the VS is likely one of the more flexible currency Babolat sticks - at 67. But I think the old 360 speed pro is 62!
Not one reviewer including tennisnerd could think of anything negative to say about it, the 360 pro.

yet nobody talks about it

and then the 360+ version came out. And everyone says it is soooo much better than the previous one. But how is that possible lol. Something about a plastic feel in the 360 version?
 
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Lorenn

Professional
I use the 360 Pro and have found it to be excellent. I have 4 grams of lead at 3,9 and use natural gut 17g at 59 lbs. I play competitive 4.5 singles and sometimes hit with 5.0 players which is the only time I have an issue with this racket. It can still get pushed around a bit by real heavy hitters. Maybe a bit more lead could help. I'm really happy with the racket but have been tempted to try the Yonex Ezone 98 Tour so se if that has a bit more free power. The Speed Pro I find to be great when I'm able to be proactive but a little underpowered when I'm on the defensive. It's tough to find a perfect racket so overall I'd give this one an A- for sure.
Extra weight from 360+ version might help just enough. Really depends on the 5.0. I slightly preferred the MP over the Pro. If I was going to get the Pro I would've just purchased a Second Gravity Pro.
 

4-string

Professional
Got the Pro last week, and have hit with a few times. First impressions good, but I have already added some lead at 2&10 and some bluetac under the buttcap just to bring it up a little. Not that it is unstable or anything, I just need it to be a little bit closer to the VCP330 that I usually play with.

Nice enough feel, but nothing spectacular, more pop than I’m used to, and good control as well. Interesting frame with its unusual specs. I used to have a Gravity Pro that I liked a lot except for the head shape, never quite got used to that. The Speed seems just right.

I don’t plan to commit to it, just want something that is easy to play for those third sets and off days without going all Babolat (been there, done that) and lose all touch and feel compared to my racquet of choice.
 
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glenWs

Rookie
Hit with mine for the first time today for an hour. Added some weight in the handle, none in hoop, strung with 17g Black Code @51. Very solid feeling, comfortable without being mushy or flexy feeling like a Blade or Clash. Good connection to the ball. Amazing volley racquet with a solid feel and amazing control, especially knifing backhand volleys. The 18X20 didn't feel too tight and does offer spin if you generate it correctly. For a bit I found myself hitting the net tape too often -- important to drive through the ball and give yourself a little more margin over the net. Flattening it out is easy and the Pro has ample power and I could hit higher percentage shots with more confidence than say a Pure Strike. Will be hitting the MP later this week and have a feeling that one will be a bit better suited for me -- a little more power and height over the net, with similar swing weight and feel. But the Pro is a keeper.
 

Lorenn

Professional
Hit with mine for the first time today for an hour. Added some weight in the handle, none in hoop, strung with 17g Black Code @51. Very solid feeling, comfortable without being mushy or flexy feeling like a Blade or Clash. Good connection to the ball. Amazing volley racquet with a solid feel and amazing control, especially knifing backhand volleys. The 18X20 didn't feel too tight and does offer spin if you generate it correctly. For a bit I found myself hitting the net tape too often -- important to drive through the ball and give yourself a little more margin over the net. Flattening it out is easy and the Pro has ample power and I could hit higher percentage shots with more confidence than say a Pure Strike. Will be hitting the MP later this week and have a feeling that one will be a bit better suited for me -- a little more power and height over the net, with similar swing weight and feel. But the Pro is a keeper.
I liked the Speed Pro. Both the Speed Pro and Gravity Pro I had to "dig" a little deeper to avoid the tape on some shots.(and I would get forget and get lazy) MP did not have the same issue. I didn't expect to like both Speed Racquets but they just play so well. They feel a little different, but just a really reliable racquet.
 

Ryebread

Professional
Hit with mine for the first time today for an hour. Added some weight in the handle, none in hoop, strung with 17g Black Code @51. Very solid feeling, comfortable without being mushy or flexy feeling like a Blade or Clash. Good connection to the ball. Amazing volley racquet with a solid feel and amazing control, especially knifing backhand volleys. The 18X20 didn't feel too tight and does offer spin if you generate it correctly. For a bit I found myself hitting the net tape too often -- important to drive through the ball and give yourself a little more margin over the net. Flattening it out is easy and the Pro has ample power and I could hit higher percentage shots with more confidence than say a Pure Strike. Will be hitting the MP later this week and have a feeling that one will be a bit better suited for me -- a little more power and height over the net, with similar swing weight and feel. But the Pro is a keeper.
wow I got my demo today too. I could have written this post!

my normal stick is Aero VS gen3/2020 model, the best Babolat racquet on the current list!
element rough and prince control hybrid 53/51.
67 stiffness
serve is strong.
Strokes good, but I need to be fully committed or I sail one.
volleys poor.

the 360 speed pro....
demo had crap multi. possibly old string job.
62 stiffness
serve weak
Strokes better. easy to pick up and love, best first date evrrrr. plush, amazing control. easy on my elbow!
volleys still poor.
but I think I like it a lot! Took her home!
still, I am so confused. Miss my serve. What would you do with the strings, for me? 52/50?

I wish the answer was the updated version.
the 360+ speed pro got so much heavier! I wish it didn’t eat so many candy corns.

playing against a strong 4.0
I swing hard and through the ball mostly, with some spin/cutting.
and I prefer 318/320 swingweight, HL control sticks. So the 360 speed pro was made for me...
and it’s such a dream to hit with, like a lightning fast pillow, but still allows me to generate all the power that I need and want.
its light but somehow doesn’t take points off and has decent plow. I don’t know how it does it.
but I can’t get any free points on my serve like the VS.
 
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Bronc10is

Semi-Pro
wow I got my demo today too. I could have written this post!

my normal stick is Aero VS gen3/2020 model, the best Babolat racquet on the current list!
element rough and prince control hybrid 53/51.
67 stiffness
serve is strong.
Strokes good, but I need to be fully committed or I sail one.
volleys poor.

the 360 speed pro....
demo had crap multi. possibly old string job.
62 stiffness
serve weak
Strokes better. easy to pick up and love, best first date evrrrr. plush, amazing control. easy on my elbow!
volleys still poor.
but I think I like it a lot! Took her home!
still, I am so confused. Miss my serve. What would you do with the strings, for me? 52/50?

I wish the answer was the updated version.
the 360+ speed pro got so much heavier! I wish it didn’t eat so many candy corns.

playing against a strong 4.0
I swing hard and through the ball mostly, with some spin/cutting.
and I prefer 318/320 swingweight, HL control sticks. So the 360 speed pro was made for me...
and it’s such a dream to hit with, like a lightning fast pillow, but still allows me to generate all the power that I need and want.
its light but somehow doesn’t take points off and has decent plow. I don’t know how it does it.
but I can’t get any free points on my serve like the VS.
The 360+ Pro is .2 ounces heavier, not an obvious difference. Surprised that you didn’t enjoy volleying with the racket because I thought it was as solid as can be with plenty of touch at the net also. One of my favorite parts of the racket is actually volleying. Regarding serve, one of the things I’ve noticed is while it doesn’t feel like I’m dialing it up, my opponent says that I do, not sure what to attribute that to.
 

Ryebread

Professional
The 360+ Pro is .2 ounces heavier, not an obvious difference. Surprised that you didn’t enjoy volleying with the racket because I thought it was as solid as can be with plenty of touch at the net also. One of my favorite parts of the racket is actually volleying. Regarding serve, one of the things I’ve noticed is while it doesn’t feel like I’m dialing it up, my opponent says that I do, not sure what to attribute that to.
317/330 swing weights
 

Bronc10is

Semi-Pro
What are people stringing their Speed Pro’s with and at what tension? I used to be a big Tecnifibre string fan so tempted to do full body NRG2 in the low to mid 50’s.
 
In case anyone is interested, TW Europe has this racquet for 132,32 €, which is about $80 cheaper than TW US. It's about $20 for shipping to the US.
 
I just recently got back into tennis and I bought a PA this past summer as my first modern racquet in ages, which was possibly a bit of a silly move as my modern topspin game is really not there. My arm was hurting a tad after a couple of sessions with it so I put it up for sale and got an offer to trade it for a brand new Speed Pro 360+, which I accepted. Haven't used it yet but am really looking forward to the slightly higher weight, stability, and lower stiffness than the Bab. My racquet before the PA was a vintage Prince Graphite Pro Oversize, (352g strung!), so I do like the feel of heftier sticks. Really looking forward to hitting with it. Will report back.
 

Villain

Professional
I’ve been hitting with this racquet almost exclusively lately. Such a solid all-around stick. I’m probably jinxing myself, but it may have cured my ‘holism. Anyone playing with the new all-black paint?
 
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