Head Graphene Prestige MP... Beast or Bust?

raging

Professional
I dont want to go into the feel because it seems to be very upsetting to certain people.

I think you should actually because even feel is individual...everyone should have an opinion. I borrowed the demo and hit with the new Graphene Prestige and hated it..had arm soreness after only an hour solid hitting. It felt awful so I stopped.

I never had any arm problems with the Prestige Classic 600s.

I am now playing with the PD & 107 and haven't had any arm problems in 9 years of playing nearly every day.

Sorry for the OP about the arm problems but maybe you should stop playing with the frame?
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Yes that will do...

Weird because I'm hitting ridiculously well with it
Weird that it's giving me tennis elbow
Weird because it has little feel but the shots come off it perfectly


Aghhhhh

Been there. You will always crave a certain feel. I know I do. The ai98 is a great stick for me, but I miss the classic feel, so of course I must try the Tour G.
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
Been there. You will always crave a certain feel. I know I do. The ai98 is a great stick for me, but I miss the classic feel, so of course I must try the Tour G.

yea waiting to demo.

funny thing. could it be there is a break in period with the Graphene?

I just got done playing for a bit and today the frame seemed to play softer than it has been for me. I'm wondering if maybe there is a break in period with the new sticks if that makes any sense at all
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Yes that will do...

Weird because I'm hitting ridiculously well with it
Weird that it's giving me tennis elbow
Weird because it has little feel but the shots come off it perfectly


Aghhhhh

At times it has the feed back of playing with a brick if that makes sense? It feels very stiff at times with no feed back and other times you can feel a little vibration outside of the sweet spot.

I think you should actually because even feel is individual...everyone should have an opinion. I borrowed the demo and hit with the new Graphene Prestige and hated it..had arm soreness after only an hour solid hitting. It felt awful so I stopped.

I never had any arm problems with the Prestige Classic 600s.

I am now playing with the PD & 107 and haven't had any arm problems in 9 years of playing nearly every day.

Sorry for the OP about the arm problems but maybe you should stop playing with the frame?

I have never had any arm problems playing with the Prestige Classic 600, i.Prestige 600. MG Prestige 600, and IG Prestige 600. With the Graphene Prestige MP I have some shoulder soreness which is very weird.
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
so i swapped the stock grip for finest calfskin and placed tourna power strips under the grommets at 11 and 1 on the racket and it performed beautifully today. much better response and stability. think i might be on to something here
 

Matt H.

Professional
I picked up a pair of the pro stock versions that have the finest calfskin and weighted up a bit with silicone in handle and lead under bumper.

Interested to see how it performs with a gut hybrid string job, leather grip, and weighted back up to 350g.
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
I picked up a pair of the pro stock versions that have the finest calfskin and weighted up a bit with silicone in handle and lead under bumper.

Interested to see how it performs with a gut hybrid string job, leather grip, and weighted back up to 350g.

also interested to see how they play for you. please keep us posted
 

Matt H.

Professional
got them this weekend. stringing one up tonight.

Despite silicone in handle and lead on top they were still only 308g unstrung.

I added a little more, and swapped out the red caps for the TK57 caps (these are 4g heavier).

certainly looks great with black grommets and a leather grip. hope it plays great too.
 

Matt H.

Professional
I had a nice 2 hour hitting session on friday.

the key to improving the racquet for me was adding 2g of lead in the lower part of the throat. It started to feel like a prestige again. Of course, with the finest calfskin grip, silicone, and a lot of lead it's nowhere close to resembling the stock prestige MP. I'm not sure how much silicone is in the handle, but the overall weight is 340g strung with overgrip and dampener.

It's a little lighter than usual for me, but the balance point is different so swingweight feels about same. It's made for the baseline game. Lead in the throat helped stabilize the feel on volleys, but it's not as natural as other versions of the prestige.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I didn't read all the replies, sorry.
Dropping tension from 58 down around 10 lbs would help immensely in attaining a bigger sweetspot, give more easy power, lessen ball impact, and help the elbows and shoulders for those who need some help.
 

burn1986

Banned
All that work to make it feel close to the older prestiges. Why not just pick up an older prestige? Is a paint job that important? The new racquet sucks. Deal with it. Its junk.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
All that work to make it feel close to the older prestiges. Why not just pick up an older prestige? Is a paint job that important? The new racquet sucks. Deal with it. Its junk.

I usually don't like to use such strong words when describing a racquet… But I totally agree. +1
 

burn1986

Banned
I usually don't like to use such strong words when describing a racquet… But I totally agree. +1


Yeah those words came out a little strong, but I am so irritated at Head for messing it up as bad as they did. I was chomping at the bit to get one of those, and then I hit with one. Needless to say I was horrified at how bad they were.
 
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Matt H.

Professional
All that work to make it feel close to the older prestiges. Why not just pick up an older prestige? Is a paint job that important? The new racquet sucks. Deal with it. Its junk.

I jumped on a rare opportunity to buy a brand new set of matched pro-stocks with leather grips.

In general I agree.

The graphene prestige MP is set up for the power baseline game but it's missing the 2 most important elements: topspin and power. lol
 

JamesRowe13

New User
Been playing with the Head Graphene Prestige MP since its release date. Having never used 18/20 pattern before, it took a while to get used to, but the past few months have been a joy. This frame performs best when you really put something into it. Great control, only thing I would say is kick serves aren't as easy, but not an issue when you are 6'4! Would recommend stringing with Prince Beast XP 17 @ 50lbs. Trying the Dunlop Black Widow 17 @ 51lbs now. Would never recommend stringing at 57lbs as its too tight, especially as you string in 2 pieces. Drop your normal tension by 5-10lbs with this frame and i'm sure you will be impressed.
Does anybody recommend any string set ups? Also looking for some black grommets to replace the red ones, can anybody advise me as to which previous model I should be looking at?
Thanks all !
 

stronzzi70

Professional
100 % agree about low tension , i have my GPMP with 50 lbs full poly plus 4 g at 12, without leather grip , Im really happy with this frame !
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't know, I see so many people trying to compensate for the lack of performance of the G Prestiges with their string choice and tension (also lead at times) that I wonder why they like the racquet at all. Seems to be more senseless infatuation than reason behind it (no offense).
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Been playing with the Head Graphene Prestige MP since its release date. Having never used 18/20 pattern before, it took a while to get used to, but the past few months have been a joy. This frame performs best when you really put something into it. Great control, only thing I would say is kick serves aren't as easy, but not an issue when you are 6'4! Would recommend stringing with Prince Beast XP 17 @ 50lbs. Trying the Dunlop Black Widow 17 @ 51lbs now. Would never recommend stringing at 57lbs as its too tight, especially as you string in 2 pieces. Drop your normal tension by 5-10lbs with this frame and i'm sure you will be impressed.
Does anybody recommend any string set ups? Also looking for some black grommets to replace the red ones, can anybody advise me as to which previous model I should be looking at?
Thanks all !

MG Prestige MP or YT Prestige MP grommets.
 

stronzzi70

Professional
I don't know, I see so many people trying to compensate for the lack of performance of the G Prestiges with their string choice and tension (also lead at times) that I wonder why they like the racquet at all. Seems to be more senseless infatuation than reason behind it (no offense).

Honestly is not infatuation , i dont have any expectación with this frame , I was sure going to sale the racquet next day, but play efficiency and solid, maybe i dont care too much about other things , just play and enjoy with it.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Honestly is not infatuation , i dont have any expectación with this frame , I was sure going to sale the racquet next day, but play efficiency and solid, maybe i dont care too much about other things , just play and enjoy with it.

Say what?? :confused:
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The reality is Graphene may be one of those many Head technologies that last two years, so if you don't catch this bus one will be along shortly.

If you classify seven to nine months as shortly, or nineteen months for a Prestige.
 

5point5

Hall of Fame
The new Graphene is a great successor to the IG. It has a springer/modern feel compared to the old Prestiges but still has the classic Prestige precision.

The additional power does take some getting used to if you are coming from and older version of the prestige, but once you get used to it, your balls will be landing deeper and heavier than ever before.
 

burn1986

Banned
The new Graphene is a great successor to the IG. It has a springer/modern feel compared to the old Prestiges but still has the classic Prestige precision.

The additional power does take some getting used to if you are coming from and older version of the prestige, but once you get used to it, your balls will be landing deeper and heavier than ever before.

Head will go to great links to sell a turd. Even plant one of its reps on the forums. You got to hand it to them, its pretty progressive thinking.
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
my question is the consensus seems to be that it feels like the new 6.1 95?

why would i want my new Head racket to play like the 6.1? If I wanted that I would go buy a 6.1. part of my love of Head frames is the fact they feel different than other frames on the market.

i think that is my gripe with the whole new line is that they made all the rackets feel like other offerings from other brands.

its not that they are bad rackets. they are different. i actually wrote a pretty kind review of the new prestige, but after a longer demo period just decided the feel wasn't for me.

BE DIFFERENT... BE ORIGINAL... that's what I have always liked about Head
 

GlenK

Professional
Have played with the Prestige line for years and tried the new line of Head Graphene racquets. I put together a comparison of the latest versions of Prestige and the Speed Pro.

I liked the way the Graphene played but my arm didn't. Bothered my arm the day after playing with the new Prestiege and the SP. At any rate below is the initial sheet I used to start looking at them. I ended up going back to the YouTek. Found a place that still had new ones for sale.

I know the ratings are going to vary considerably but it was good to look at the variables and what the TW staff thought.

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SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Have played with the Prestige line for years and tried the new line of Head Graphene racquets. I put together a comparison of the latest versions of Prestige and the Speed Pro.

I liked the way the Graphene played but my arm didn't. Bothered my arm the day after playing with the new Prestiege and the SP. At any rate below is the initial sheet I used to start looking at them. I ended up going back to the YouTek. Found a place that still had new ones for sale.

I know the ratings are going to vary considerably but it was good to look at the variables and what the TW staff thought.

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the problem with the review is the play testers involved in it. If they change, there is no point for a comparison. It makes more sense to compare the thoughts of players that were in all play tests (Chris perhaps?).
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Okay I checked again and Chris is indeed the only one who was on all playtests. I'll just make a quick listing of how he graded the racquets.

YouTek Prestige MP
Power: 7.8
Control: 8.3
Maneuverability: 8.3
Stability: 7.9
Comfort: 7.9
Touch/Feel: 7.9
Serves: 8.2
Groundstrokes: 8
Returns: 8.1
Slice: 8
Topspin: 7.9
Volley: 8
Overall: 8.1

YouTek IG Prestige MP
Power: 8.2
Control: 8.5
Maneuverability: 7.6
Stability: 8.5
Comfort: 8
Touch/Feel: 8.5
Serves: 8.3
Groundstrokes: 8.5
Returns: 8.2
Slice: 9
Topspin: 8.2
Volley: 8.8
Overall: 8.7

YouTek Graphene Prestige MP
Power: 8.3
Control: 7.6
Maneuverability: 7.8
Stability: 7.7
Comfort: 7.7
Touch/Feel: 7.8
Serves: 7.8
Groundstrokes: 7.6
Returns: 8.3
Slice: 8.5
Topspin: 8.3
Volley: 8.2
Overall: 7.7

In general we can see that he scored the Graphene noticeably lower and knowing that he is well accustomed to Prestiges I trust his judgement more than that of a few of the other playtesters' (no offense).
 
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GlenK

Professional
the problem with the review is the play testers involved in it. If they change, there is no point for a comparison. It makes more sense to compare the thoughts of players that were in all play tests (Chris perhaps?).

Absolutely, and I looked at all those too. The link on the picture is linked to the play test for each racquet. It just doesn't work on the picture.
 

GlenK

Professional
Also, I lost some enthusiasm looking at them when both the Graphene racquets bothered my arm..
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
Also, I lost some enthusiasm looking at them when both the Graphene racquets bothered my arm..

i had a similar experience. I know one poster constantly referring to me as a "senior" poster but simply not the case.

i did enjoy the way I was hitting with the G Prestige, however the lack of feel certainly bugged me.

also I was getting horrible elbow pain any time i played with the frame for more than an hour. as I have had this happen with only 1 or 2 rackets EVER (and believe me I have demoed a ton of frames) I decided it wasn't for me.

ive actually been swinging around a pro stock IG Radical Pro for a few weeks and have really enjoyed hitting with it a lot
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
i had a similar experience. I know one poster constantly referring to me as a "senior" poster but simply not the case.

i did enjoy the way I was hitting with the G Prestige, however the lack of feel certainly bugged me.

also I was getting horrible elbow pain any time i played with the frame for more than an hour. as I have had this happen with only 1 or 2 rackets EVER (and believe me I have demoed a ton of frames) I decided it wasn't for me.

ive actually been swinging around a pro stock IG Radical Pro for a few weeks and have really enjoyed hitting with it a lot

wait... weren't you recently switching to an IG Speed Pro? :-?
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
wait... weren't you recently switching to an IG Speed Pro? :-?

ive been tinkering around with both. not sure which one I like better haha. I was dead set on the IG Speed Pros and was just going to sell the radicals, but decided I may as well hit one before I sold them... liked it and have been messing with set ups in both frames as of late
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
ive been tinkering around with both. not sure which one I like better haha. I was dead set on the IG Speed Pros and was just going to sell the radicals, but decided I may as well hit one before I sold them... liked it and have been messing with set ups in both frames as of late

you indecisive… :lol:
 

Long Face

Semi-Pro
Okay I checked agains and Chris is indeed the only one who was on all playtests. I'll just make a quick listing of how he graded the racquets.

YouTek Prestige MP
Power: 7.8
Control: 8.3
Maneuverability: 8.3
Stability: 7.9
Comfort: 7.9
Touch/Feel: 7.9
Serves: 8.2
Groundstrokes: 8
Returns: 8.1
Slice: 8
Topspin: 7.9
Volley: 8
Overall: 8.1

YouTek IG Prestige MP
Power: 8.2
Control: 8.5
Maneuverability: 7.6
Stability: 8.5
Comfort: 8
Touch/Feel: 8.5
Serves: 8.3
Groundstrokes: 8.5
Returns: 8.2
Slice: 9
Topspin: 8.2
Volley: 8.8
Overall: 8.7

YouTek Graphene Prestige MP
Power: 8.3
Control: 7.6
Maneuverability: 7.8
Stability: 7.7
Comfort: 7.7
Touch/Feel: 7.8
Serves: 7.8
Groundstrokes: 7.6
Returns: 8.3
Slice: 8.5
Topspin: 8.3
Volley: 8.2
Overall: 7.7

In general we can see that he scored the Graphene noticeably lower and knowing that he is well accustomed to Prestiges I trust his judgement more than that of a few of the other playtesters' (no offense).

Playtest done by the same person, especially someone who knows the model well, is more consistent. I trust this one more, too.

Especially when I actually use an IG Prestige MP. :???:
 

KNR

New User
Over the last 12 years, i have played with a Prestige in one form or another. Demoed the Graphene version. In my mind, this is not a Prestige.
 
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