Head Graphene Touch Speed Adaptive

skydog

Semi-Pro
The numbers look impressive, flexing out at a 57. The ability to customize weight and balance, string pattern, and length could be pluses (assuming it is consumer adjustable without some of the iDapt issues).

Not sure how you could demo it in your desired configuration, but I am intrigued.



 
My biggest complaint when I hit with it is that the handle is rock hard. Bc of how the length extenders work, the whole handle is 2 pieces of plastic that snap together under the grip. I found it extremely uncomfortable on contact and put it down after about 10 minutes.
 

loosegroove

Hall of Fame
My biggest complaint when I hit with it is that the handle is rock hard. Bc of how the length extenders work, the whole handle is 2 pieces of plastic that snap together under the grip. I found it extremely uncomfortable on contact and put it down after about 10 minutes.
How is that much different than the usual pallets used by Head, which are also two plastic halves join together around the handle.
 
How is that much different than the usual pallets used by Head, which are also two plastic halves join together around the handle.
Well i have 5 XT Speeds that have a completely different feel in the handle. Cheaper materials perhaps? Regardless, the Adaptive handle felt much harder than any of my current Speeds. My hitting partner said the same thing and he stopped using it faster than I did.
 
Could also be the fact that the handle chambers of the Adaptive I had were totally empty. All of my Speeds came with foam, etc in them. Perhaps having no extra dampening in the handle cause the much firmer feel.

Not sure if all of the Adaptive frames are built that way or if it was just the one I had.
 
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Rally

Semi-Pro
When will they realize we like their old rackets more than their new.
They won't because the majority of the racquet-buying population doesn't go on feel and results; it goes on what's new and what's endorsed by their favorite pro. Most people don't even know that pros use paint jobs on older racquets. They just assume that they get newer racquets every two years and if it's new it obviously must be better in every single way. These are typical country club folks who buy equipment and clothing as a statement rather than for function and juniors who are just trying to make their high school teams. The generic 2.0 to 4.0 population. That's who Head is marketing towards.
 

skydog

Semi-Pro
My biggest complaint when I hit with it is that the handle is rock hard. Bc of how the length extenders work, the whole handle is 2 pieces of plastic that snap together under the grip. I found it extremely uncomfortable on contact and put it down after about 10 minutes.
That is disappointing to hear. I like the concept, I love the flex, but if you lose the feel it is just a waste of time and money.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
@TW Staff are the numbers on this frame right? Especially the flex and the differing string pattern (skipped holes) make it seem like a completely new racquet in the Speed line
 

Crocodile

Legend
If the 57ra is correct, having it weighted up could be an interesting experience. TW tested the Dunlop biomietic 200 at 57ra (Manufacturer quoted 62) and I loved it, but it was 20mm.
 

mark b.

Rookie
While the pallets sound harsh, there are two fixes. (1) Find your preferred length and inject silicone into the chambers. (2) Buy a grip a half size smaller and buy one of those really plush cushion grips.
Here's my thought. I'm totally excited by a HEAD racquet with a sub 60 RA. For many old school hitters, the old Prestiges had that buttery soft feel and we miss that. A Speed is not a Prestige, but you are hard pressed to find any current frame at 100q.in. and a16x19 pattern with a soft RA.(plenty of 18x20's) You pretty much cannot find a decent frame until you get up around 64RA. Only one with a decent swing weight is a ProKennex and its 65. So Bravo HEAD for giving us a soft flex.
Does anyone know the Swingweight with the heavy grommets and the heavy buttcap installed on the 16x19??
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
Funny about players crying about the non-existence of a sub 60 RA MP, but when such arrives on the market, one remark about handle feeling hard eliminates it from giving it a real try?
(btw. I'm pretty sure that can be fixed with foam or anything else; it's most likely about vibration node being in the wrong spot so moving it with customization will change the feel too)

Well no wonder there's no manufacturer response for sub 60 RA racquets, given what happened to this one...incredibly low response.
 
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Grinch

New User
While the pallets sound harsh, there are two fixes. (1) Find your preferred length and inject silicone into the chambers. (2) Buy a grip a half size smaller and buy one of those really plush cushion grips.
Here's my thought. I'm totally excited by a HEAD racquet with a sub 60 RA. For many old school hitters, the old Prestiges had that buttery soft feel and we miss that. A Speed is not a Prestige, but you are hard pressed to find any current frame at 100q.in. and a16x19 pattern with a soft RA.(plenty of 18x20's) You pretty much cannot find a decent frame until you get up around 64RA. Only one with a decent swing weight is a ProKennex and its 65. So Bravo HEAD for giving us a soft flex.
Does anyone know the Swingweight with the heavy grommets and the heavy buttcap installed on the 16x19??
Keeping the 27 length, I calculated a SW of 328 with 5g heavier grommets, 10g heavier buttcap, a 2g vib dampner, and a 5g overgrip ... that results in a total weight of 325g/11.5oz and 6pts HL (not totally sucky). I put on a heavy leather grip (I'm one of few who like hard grips, not plush) and added a piece of memory foam and a little tungsten putty in the handle to bring the racket up to a final weight of 340g/12oz ... and SW only moved to around 330 (but 9pts HL -- I like head light better than bud lite). That setup felt really comfortable, even with full copoly bed of Cyclone18, for my lousy pubic court game. But some say size actually matters, so I lengthened it the full 15mm (.6") put back the light grommets, and moved those extra 5 grams into the handle in order to keep the 240g/12.0oz overall weight. It's now 8.8 pts HL but the swing weight has to be somewhere around 340+ with the extra 15mm of length -- I haven't actually calculated SW yet. I've played 2 singles and 2 doubles with this longHead and it just seems to work and feel better than other rackets I've tried in the past year. I may buy one or two more and really go mad scientist with three different length & SW setups (but same approx 340g/8-9HL weight and balance). My 58 year old body just can't handle the beloved old PS85s (12.9oz/365g/8HL/345 SW/21.09MGR/I) and PS90s any longer.
 
I'm very tempted to bring one of these babies to the lab after having successfully modded a Graphene 360 Radical"S" to a creamy huge sweetspotted miracle racquet with blown in foam up the shaft and halfway up the hoop and finished the grip area with silicone....Fixed my awful chronic case of TE....Oh.... the full bed of Mantis comfort at 45 completed the process...With an RA of 61 it has been an overlooked gem that played pretty good before .....but my mods has taken it to tennis nirvana....If I get hold of an Adaptive.... I will report with the results for all you TE sufferers....
 
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