Head Gravity 98 16x19 (Coming in 2025!)

TN teaser Review

I think we have reached peak racquet reviewing……lots of blah blah blah trying to appeal to everyone out there. I am not being critical on him but I got a little bit bored.

Also when TN doesn’t enjoy a racquet that much i usually found it good and the opposite happens on those he considers as a potential switch. So i ll have to demo it :)
 
I've said this before, but this is where I think Head is acting more like a large bureacratic state focused on their silos vs. a customer focused orientation.

Yonex - you want a primarily spin racquet? Vcore. Power? Ezone. Control? Percept. Control but with a little more help in spin and forgiveness? Percept 100. Same can be said for Babolat. Wilson is a bit more of a harrier mess.

Head however you now have an Extreme Pro / Boom Pro / Gravity 98 all very similar demographics but in different silos. Control is interspersed throughout the Radical / Gravity / Prestige lines. It really strikes me as bad marketing, and from a channel perspective (ie tennis shops) that need to stock all these different variations of so many silos and grip sizes, it all seems like a terrible marketing strategy.
 
I think we have reached peak racquet reviewing……lots of blah blah blah trying to appeal to everyone out there. I am not being critical on him but I got a little bit bored.

Also when TN doesn’t enjoy a racquet that much i usually found it good and the opposite happens on those he considers as a potential switch. So i ll have to demo it :)
Agreed - part of this is a function of the confusing nature of how Head has so many silos and how they are trying to position them; some of it is where a stand alone review needs to be more of a comparison of how it stacks up relative to other similar racquets (in this case vs. the Vcore 98/Boom Pro/Ezone 98/PA 98). This would make the review much more helpful, where it can be more about how this performs relative to their competition vs. what the individual reviewers preferences are.
 
I've said this before, but this is where I think Head is acting more like a large bureacratic state focused on their silos vs. a customer focused orientation.

Yonex - you want a primarily spin racquet? Vcore. Power? Ezone. Control? Percept. Control but with a little more help in spin and forgiveness? Percept 100. Same can be said for Babolat. Wilson is a bit more of a harrier mess.

Head however you now have an Extreme Pro / Boom Pro / Gravity 98 all very similar demographics but in different silos. Control is interspersed throughout the Radical / Gravity / Prestige lines. It really strikes me as bad marketing, and from a channel perspective (ie tennis shops) that need to stock all these different variations of so many silos and grip sizes, it all seems like a terrible marketing strategy.

I think the only "muddied" silos in Head are Prestige vs. Gravity for "Control" and then Speed vs. Radical for idk what "all-around".

The Extreme/Boom/Gravity example i don't feel like is any different that say a Yonex VCore/Ezone/Percept 98(7) or 100, likewise with Babolat Pure Aero/Drive/Strike 98/100; and Head has always been trying to keep with the Pro/Tour/MP naming and have stated that they're trying to now align them across all of the silos.

I think both Babolat and Yonex make it less consumer friendly with the "random" entries in their lines, like the Pure Aero Rafa and Pure Strike 97 and 97D/100D respectively.
 
I think both Babolat and Yonex make it less consumer friendly with the "random" entries in their lines, like the Pure Aero Rafa and Pure Strike 97 and 97D/100D respectively.
I think denser options like the 97D/100D are more consumer-friendly, especially because
Yonex primarily offers 16x19 racquets in their silos.
 
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I think the only "muddied" silos in Head are Prestige vs. Gravity for "Control" and then Speed vs. Radical for idk what "all-around".

The Extreme/Boom/Gravity example i don't feel like is any different that say a Yonex VCore/Ezone/Percept 98(7) or 100, likewise with Babolat Pure Aero/Drive/Strike 98/100; and Head has always been trying to keep with the Pro/Tour/MP naming and have stated that they're trying to now align them across all of the silos.

I think both Babolat and Yonex make it less consumer friendly with the "random" entries in their lines, like the Pure Aero Rafa and Pure Strike 97 and 97D/100D respectively.
Dude except my point is that it isn’t extreme / boom / gravity…it’s those plus radical, speed, prestige, and there’s even the instinct still, it’s ridiculous.
 
I think denser options like the 97D/100D are more consumer-friendly, especially because
Yonex primarily offers 16x19 racquets in their silos.
Yes, and those options are consistent with the racquets in those silos. Sounds like the gravity 98 is almost yet another silo within one of 7 silos head has.
 
Yes, and those options are consistent with the racquets in those silos. Sounds like the gravity 98 is almost yet another silo within one of 7 silos head has.
I agree it is not easy for consumers when it seems like the silos are held together by the paint job more than any other defining feature, but as long as Head keeps developing decent racquets from some of them, I do not care if they necessarily fit into their particular silo, though I personally prefer that the good sticks do not come with a boom, radical, or extreme paint job ;)
 
I agree it is not easy for consumers when it seems like the silos are held together by the paint job more than any other defining feature, but as long as Head keeps developing decent racquets from some of them, I do not care if they necessarily fit into their particular silo, though I personally prefer that the good sticks do not come with a boom, radical, or extreme paint job ;)
Agreed that they make excellent racquets for sure!
 
I've said this before, but this is where I think Head is acting more like a large bureacratic state focused on their silos vs. a customer focused orientation.

Yonex - you want a primarily spin racquet? Vcore. Power? Ezone. Control? Percept. Control but with a little more help in spin and forgiveness? Percept 100. Same can be said for Babolat. Wilson is a bit more of a harrier mess.

Head however you now have an Extreme Pro / Boom Pro / Gravity 98 all very similar demographics but in different silos. Control is interspersed throughout the Radical / Gravity / Prestige lines. It really strikes me as bad marketing, and from a channel perspective (ie tennis shops) that need to stock all these different variations of so many silos and grip sizes, it all seems like a terrible marketing strategy.
Whatever Head can do to get your money :) Honestly turns to what color way you want to play with...same-feature racquet can probably be found among extreme/gravity/boom/radical/speed
 
Dude except my point is that it isn’t extreme / boom / gravity…it’s those plus radical, speed, prestige, and there’s even the instinct still, it’s ridiculous.

Its fairly easy:

Prestige - classic control line
Gravity - Sweetspot, modern control line
Radical - classic allround frame (they re a bit lost here)
Speed - Power allround line
Boom - modern power line
Extreme - Spin
Instinct - womens line

Other brands aren‘t that far off, if you think of Wilson with ProStaff, Blade, Ultra, Clash, Shift, RF and their Pro Labs line
 
Its fairly easy:

Prestige - classic control line
Gravity - Sweetspot, modern control line
Radical - classic allround frame (they re a bit lost here)
Speed - Power allround line
Boom - modern power line
Extreme - Spin
Instinct - womens line

Other brands aren‘t that far off, if you think of Wilson with ProStaff, Blade, Ultra, Clash, Shift, RF and their Pro Labs line
Just out of curiosity, a I haven't tried one yet myself, are we saying that the Boom is in the same category as the Pure Drive/FX500 etc?
 
Just out of curiosity, a I haven't tried one yet myself, are we saying that the Boom is in the same category as the Pure Drive/FX500 etc?

I would say the closest to those from Head would be the Speed MP , but the Boom is not that far off.

At least the Boom Pro was much more controlled than a classic Drive, maybe rather comparable to Drive 98 or the Ezone. Somewhere in between those two in regards of Power/Control ratio
 
Ok Cool
I would say the closest to those from Head would be the Speed MP , but the Boom is not that far off.

At least the Boom Pro was much more controlled than a classic Drive, maybe rather comparable to Drive 98 or the Ezone. Somewhere in between those two in regards of Power/Control ratio
I've been mucking about with a Graphene Touch Extreme MP, and an old PD, and looking to maybe get some newer Extreme MPs this week. Just lost a step of so in my pace on court, so been looking for something to help me get more loop/;spin/time on my shots without loosing my weight of shot. I still have classic control stuff in the bag. But i just find I need some more recovery time than i used to or i jest end up out hitting myself.

I've yet to try a PA in any form, been looking a a couple, but would like add Silicon, and a few other mods if i did. Have also considered the Ezone 100.
 
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I think denser options like the 97D/100D are more consumer-friendly, especially because
Yonex primarily offers 16x19 racquets in their silos.

I would say it's a matter of perspective.

Manufacturers are perceived as not consumer focused when they provide too many options across their silos, potentially blending them.

Whilst at the same time being consumer friendly because we're providing options for consumers.

At the end of the day it just comes down to how much understanding the consumer has to be able to differentiate between the nuances; those that feel like they understand appreciate the extra options, whilst those who aren't clear feel like it's unfocused.

Dude except my point is that it isn’t extreme / boom / gravity…it’s those plus radical, speed, prestige, and there’s even the instinct still, it’s ridiculous.

I stated it was the example you provided:

Head however you now have an Extreme Pro / Boom Pro / Gravity 98 all very similar demographics but in different silos.
 
I would say it's a matter of perspective.

Manufacturers are perceived as not consumer focused when they provide too many options across their silos, potentially blending them.

Whilst at the same time being consumer friendly because we're providing options for consumers.

At the end of the day it just comes down to how much understanding the consumer has to be able to differentiate between the nuances; those that feel like they understand appreciate the extra options, whilst those who aren't clear feel like it's unfocused.
like you said, there are a variety of consumers with varying degrees of understanding of tennis racquets, all of whom want to be catered to. I would argue the percept line is targeted towards customers more aware of specs, more geared toward customization, and most interested in control, so it makes sense to also offer denser string patterns in that silo. As you mentioned, how much is too much is ultimately subjective.
 
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like you said, there are a variety of consumers with varying degrees of understanding of tennis racquets, all of whom want to be catered to. I would argue the percept line is targeted towards customers more aware of specs, more geared toward customization, and most interested in control, so it makes sense to also offer denser string patterns in that silo. As you mentioned, how much is too much is ultimately subjective.

Yes, i think it's always going to be the case, and then on top of actual specs you get additional factors like brand loyalty/preference, colour scheme etc.

And even then you'll also have the same opposing view points (i.e "if only Head made an PA98 competitor" vs. "all of these 305g 98sqin rackets on the market - why can't we have *insert minimal difference option here*")

I agree with you that at least Yonex put their dense rackets into the "Control" silo as opposed to say an Ezone/VCore 18x20 etc. (*coughTFight305cough* :rolleyes:)
 
The strong idea behind 305 98 open pattern frame, it appeals to high level players because you can easily beef it up a bit to your liking without making it a rocket launcher (and not using 4G at 28 kilo). At the same time, as a higher-intermediate player, or even just a weekend warrior, you can use it stock, with low tension poly, and expect decently forgiving experience. The only demographics it absolutely doesn't appeal to are 100 sq.in tweener users or flat hitters, who want denser string pattern.

The Extreme Pro isn't beefy enough without customization, because it tries to stay a spin racquet with some control flavour rather than an all-rounder. Radical MP is decent, as is Boom Pro, but the latter just has unique identity, not settled yet. I cheer Head for experimenting and searching, legendary frames get born this way!
 
It’s a racket. If it had no markings on it specifying head etc, I’d have no idea it was a gravity or indeed no idea at all what brand or model it was. Generic.
 
The strong idea behind 305 98 open pattern frame, it appeals to high level players because you can easily beef it up a bit to your liking without making it a rocket launcher (and not using 4G at 28 kilo). At the same time, as a higher-intermediate player, or even just a weekend warrior, you can use it stock, with low tension poly, and expect decently forgiving experience. The only demographics it absolutely doesn't appeal to are 100 sq.in tweener users or flat hitters, who want denser string pattern.

The Extreme Pro isn't beefy enough without customization, because it tries to stay a spin racquet with some control flavour rather than an all-rounder. Radical MP is decent, as is Boom Pro, but the latter just has unique identity, not settled yet. I cheer Head for experimenting and searching, legendary frames get born this way!
A slightly beefier stiffer gravity mp would be great. Not sure why the radical changes to the point that people don't recognize it as a gravity anymore
 
A slightly beefier stiffer gravity mp would be great.
Maybe. I dunno. I was interested in trying some 98 with 16x19 and lighter than my GPro, but haven't pulled a trigger on Blade, Solinco WO or some TF option yet... Didn't want to go for Prestige. And here we are - seemingly ideal try for me. I either like it or stay with GPro.
 
Maybe. I dunno. I was interested in trying some 98 with 16x19 and lighter than my GPro, but haven't pulled a trigger on Blade, Solinco WO or some TF option yet... Didn't want to go for Prestige. And here we are - seemingly ideal try for me. I either like it or stay with GPro.
Hi eweryone in this thread! I play with the TF40 and notice many similarities with the Gravity 98 based on its description. However, this model caught my attention. I’m hoping for a bit more power, though the TF also performs quite well in that regard. A key difference is the head shape, which enhances the sweetspot and reduces the number of errors at my level of play. An open question for me remains the maneuverability of the Gravity 98.
 
I've said this before, but this is where I think Head is acting more like a large bureacratic state focused on their silos vs. a customer focused orientation.

Yonex - you want a primarily spin racquet? Vcore. Power? Ezone. Control? Percept. Control but with a little more help in spin and forgiveness? Percept 100. Same can be said for Babolat. Wilson is a bit more of a harrier mess.

Head however you now have an Extreme Pro / Boom Pro / Gravity 98 all very similar demographics but in different silos. Control is interspersed throughout the Radical / Gravity / Prestige lines. It really strikes me as bad marketing, and from a channel perspective (ie tennis shops) that need to stock all these different variations of so many silos and grip sizes, it all seems like a terrible marketing strategy.
Well put. It does feel as if each racket silo is run by a competing bureaucracy or franchise.
 
What's the advantage over pa 98? I went from Gpro to PA 98. Can't use stiff poly main in PA 98. If it's a softer pa 98, then I'm definitely interested. Not seen RA number for Gtour 98. But PA 98 is pretty tough to beat in other areas.
Cross with a soft round poly and it's pretty comfortable, the PA98.
 
I've said this before, but this is where I think Head is acting more like a large bureacratic state focused on their silos vs. a customer focused orientation.

Yonex - you want a primarily spin racquet? Vcore. Power? Ezone. Control? Percept. Control but with a little more help in spin and forgiveness? Percept 100. Same can be said for Babolat. Wilson is a bit more of a harrier mess.

Head however you now have an Extreme Pro / Boom Pro / Gravity 98 all very similar demographics but in different silos. Control is interspersed throughout the Radical / Gravity / Prestige lines. It really strikes me as bad marketing, and from a channel perspective (ie tennis shops) that need to stock all these different variations of so many silos and grip sizes, it all seems like a terrible marketing strategy.
I think it's more of a bad branding exercise than a marketing one. Meaning, what the lines stand for is less clear and distinct, but in terms of meeting a wide range of customer needs they cover just about everything. Feels more like a volume/breadth play than deep, specific offerings.

Babolot/Yonex - fewer but more specific lines
Head/Wilson - more lines with less specific/defined purpose
If I'm an uneducated racquet buyer (no shame in that), I could see picking a design first and then follow with specific performance characteristics.
 
whats your string combo in the PA 98 ? and tension
I've only hit with Black Knight in the mains, Ghostwire in the crosses. I've got a knee injury, so I'm waiting to get back out there again.

But, the general idea of shaped poly in the mains with a softer round poly in the crosses is one I find appealing. Toroline offers a couple of soft round poly strings that can be paired with their line or, maybe, others like Restring Zero.
 
I think it's more of a bad branding exercise than a marketing one. Meaning, what the lines stand for is less clear and distinct, but in terms of meeting a wide range of customer needs they cover just about everything. Feels more like a volume/breadth play than deep, specific offerings.

Babolot/Yonex - fewer but more specific lines
Head/Wilson - more lines with less specific/defined purpose
If I'm an uneducated racquet buyer (no shame in that), I could see picking a design first and then follow with specific performance characteristics.

I don't know - Yonex isn't super particular about their lines, they just put different rackets under one umbrella.
You can't tell me that e.g. the Percept 97D and Percept 100 are both the same line in a Head definition?

Same kind of goes for the Babolat Strike line - the 97 is an entirely different racket to the 100 16x19
They simply share design and this way they have a smaller variety of lines, whereas Head or Wilson mostly stay with one headsize per line
 
Are the higher RAs measured or perceived? Rackets feel stiffer when you play like Jonas.
It seems Jonas did not measure his racket RA. He just stated how it felt. It also seemed Luca did measure his as he said it was 58, but felt stiffer. My racket at 57 was measured, so it falls inline with what Luca measured, and my racket also did not feel like a noodle, it definitely played stiffer than a 57 RA racket.
 
Luca will definitely lead the hype wagon for this frame, with his love to Gravity Pro, having Boom Pro as main racquet for quite a while, and also evaluating PA98 very high. RF01 Pro will be forgotten in dust.
 
Its fairly easy:

Prestige - classic control line
Gravity - Sweetspot, modern control line
Radical - classic allround frame (they re a bit lost here)
Speed - Power allround line
Boom - modern power line
Extreme - Spin
Instinct - womens line

Other brands aren‘t that far off, if you think of Wilson with ProStaff, Blade, Ultra, Clash, Shift, RF and their Pro Labs line
As a consumer I like the variety as while a lot of these models overlap, there's just enough difference between each that you will likely prefer one over the other which means you are getting a closer fit compared to Babolat and Yonex where you may be settling if all three of their lines don't tick enough of your boxes. From a distributor perspective it has to be a bit of a nightmare dealing with the overhead of all the models.
 
Luca will definitely lead the hype wagon for this frame, with his love to Gravity Pro, having Boom Pro as main racquet for quite a while, and also evaluating PA98 very high. RF01 Pro will be forgotten in dust.
Yes this definitely will be in his wheelhouse given the type of frames he gravitates to.
 
I have a friend who is trying this 98 with me and she has quite a sensitive arm. She is currently using the Gravity MP. I don't know her full thoughts on it, but it is ok for her arm as is the MP.
Get her full thoughts! Pronto! Everyone here is talking about it in relation to the Pro but I'm more interested in how it feels to MP users.
 
I measured my sample on my Babolat RDC. Strung with Hawk Touch at 50 lbs, the RA was 56 RA! Thats the racquet I use when Jonas shows some footage of me hitting with it in the teaser-review (indoor)

Nice info Henrik! But that just goes to my point that RA isn't always the big thing when it comes to arm problems. Jonas also mentioned that some people had a harsh feeling on their arm when trying it, which would be crazy for a 56 RA.

But back when I played with the Vcore Pro HD, I also experienced this in a way. So there definitely is more to arm feeling than just stiffness.
 
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