Head Gravity 98 16x19 (Coming in 2025!)

dr. godmode said:
It’s so loud. Every shot is so thunderous it really encourages bad behaviour. I got good everything from it. I can see how the open pattern towards to tip could be off putting to some but I enjoyed the ball pocketing I got from it. I am prob on honeymoon phase but no real downsides for the segment in my opinion.
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How did you string it?
 
Hope it's gonna be released earlier than jan '25. Personally, the hype around this racket they're trying to create is kinda annoying me, i feel flodded with reviews and shorts/reels, if I won't avoid youtube and social media for the next 2 months, this racket will already feel old when it's released. Not a fan of how this is done.
 
_FrankTheTank_ said:
Hope it's gonna be released earlier than jan '25. Personally, the hype around this racket they're trying to create is kinda annoying me, i feel flodded with reviews and shorts/reels, if I won't avoid youtube and social media for the next 2 months, this racket will already feel old when it's released. Not a fan of how this is done.
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I agree.. all this hype is going to die down before the racket releases. You’d expect it to be released in November or early December with all these “reviews”
 
dreamP said:
Hey Beckett! Does it feel heavier than GPro like some of the reviewers suggested?
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For me it doesn’t not play super heavy or anything. I have a one hander, and didn’t feel like it was giving me any trouble. I think the GPro with its high sw might be trouble on that one hander, but I haven’t played with it.
 
Rvansmith said:
For me it doesn’t not play super heavy or anything. I have a one hander, and didn’t feel like it was giving me any trouble. I think the GPro with its high sw might be trouble on that one hander, but I haven’t played with it.
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It definitely can be, especially if it’s overspec, but I manage to keep mine 225-330SW with thin strings and don’t have trouble with my OHB, and I’m not a big boi. Of course, the 98 will probably be easier
 
JFrijhoff said:
It definitely can be, especially if it’s overspec, but I manage to keep mine 225-330SW with thin strings and don’t have trouble with my OHB, and I’m not a big boi. Of course, the 98 will probably be easier
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My 98 is underspec, 287 unstrung sw, strung sw was 321. Even underspec I think it had pretty great stability. I would be interested to try a 325sw gravity pro :D You live near me???? :D :D :D
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
It’s disappointing. After that first IG influencer says it has a good sound, everyone else follows smh
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I dont recall talking about the sound
BUT IT’S SPECTACULAR ! Additionaly Head’s dampener is cutting all the excessive high frequencies making the sound full and rounded yet still with a lot of clarity.

Jokes aside i dont really care about the sound until its bad but i dont even recall a frame with „bad sound” :p it also depends how tight and loose you string the racquet and probably the stiffness and thickness of the string plays part as well.
It would be too difficult to market it on the tennis land IMO. I can imagine high freq could be associated by some with not that great comfort. High freq can be called „harsh” for a reason :)

It would be better to just put the foam inside to make the impact sound AND feel more „rounded”. that way you are also offering something familiar to those nerds :) For some its going to be sound, for some performance, for some feel. (Hello Angell TC95). But also i remember playing with tc95 that was low in specs and the experience was awful so everything is important.

but if you ask me…Head Speed Pro 360+ and every Prestige Pro 18x20 since the Prestige 360+ (called MP back then?) have that special feel that I often associate with „foam filled” racquets…many ways to achieve same thing i guess?

Cheers :)
 
galapagos said:
I dont recall talking about the sound
BUT IT’S SPECTACULAR ! Additionaly Head’s dampener is cutting all the excessive high frequencies making the sound full and rounded yet still with a lot of clarity.

Jokes aside i dont really care about the sound until its bad but i dont even recall a frame with „bad sound” :p it also depends how tight and loose you string the racquet and probably the stiffness and thickness of the string plays part as well.
It would be too difficult to market it on the tennis land IMO. I can imagine high freq could be associated by some with not that great comfort. High freq can be called „harsh” for a reason :)

It would be better to just put the foam inside to make the impact sound AND feel more „rounded”. that way you are also offering something familiar to those nerds :) For some its going to be sound, for some performance, for some feel. (Hello Angell TC95). But also i remember playing with tc95 that was low in specs and the experience was awful so everything is important.

but if you ask me…Head Speed Pro 360+ and every Prestige Pro 18x20 since the Prestige 360+ (called MP back then?) have that special feel that I often associate with „foam filled” racquets…many ways to achieve same thing i guess?

Cheers :)
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All the mainstream reviewers/influencers talk about the “thunderous” sound and its ridiculous.
 
Return_Ace said:
???
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I don’t have any relationships with Head. I just showed up to my hit with Luca and he had one just chilling. I have spoken about hitting noise several times in the past. Most notably in the VCORE 95 which is also loud. I even made a whole video about hitting noise and feel at the beginning of the channel years ago.

I generally only talk about things that are noteable and sound is usually not notable, but for the G98 it’s pretty insane.

I have hitting footage which I’ll share soon. You can clearly hear how loud it is.
 
dr. godmode said:
I don’t have any relationships with Head. I just showed up to my hit with Luca and he had one just chilling. I have spoken about hitting noise several times in the past. Most notably in the VCORE 95 which is also loud. I even made a whole video about hitting noise and feel at the beginning of the channel years ago.

I generally only talk about things that are noteable and sound is usually not notable, but for the G98 it’s pretty insane.

I have hitting footage which I’ll share soon. You can clearly hear how loud it is.
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I didn't mean to imply anything about your comment outside of the fact it is a comment about sound when someone had posted that you've never commented about sound.

Head have mentioned Sound as a part of their marketing for a while now.

I think initially when I think it was the Prestiges where they comments about Sound grommets alongside the CAPS or it was another line.

I believe they also talked about Sound during the Hawk Power podcast and from my very recent experience, I think I can see what they're talking about since it seems to give very audible feedback when you strike the ball clean, I'll probably keep experimenting with it for a bit to see how much I get from that.

I'm looking forward to when your video comes out regardless :)
 
Yall will see when it’s out, no difference in sound. Like I said, I don’t think it’s a marketing thing, I think people are sheep/followers. That one influencer says it, so now all the sheep will say it.
 
dr. godmode said:
I don’t have any relationships with Head. I just showed up to my hit with Luca and he had one just chilling. I have spoken about hitting noise several times in the past. Most notably in the VCORE 95 which is also loud. I even made a whole video about hitting noise and feel at the beginning of the channel years ago.

I generally only talk about things that are noteable and sound is usually not notable, but for the G98 it’s pretty insane.

I have hitting footage which I’ll share soon. You can clearly hear how loud it is.
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The 95 is muted as heck. Are you playing indoors or something?
 
longtimelurker said:
Lools like dr3251 is still living rent free within you with thunder :cool: I have seen him and vsbabolat amongst others comment on sound of shots in the past. Some influencers are obvious in what they are paid to say... you know the honest ones!
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The saying doesn’t make sense if you take 20 seconds to think about it. You go through your normal day, play tennis, then have a light couple of days to come here to poke here and there, and somehow that’s “liVinG rEnT fReE”

Idk, I don’t religiously subscribe to him but from the few comments I’ve seen, I haven’t seen one on sound ‍♂️
 
Return_Ace said:
I didn't mean to imply anything about your comment outside of the fact it is a comment about sound when someone had posted that you've never commented about sound.

Head have mentioned Sound as a part of their marketing for a while now.

I think initially when I think it was the Prestiges where they comments about Sound grommets alongside the CAPS or it was another line.

I believe they also talked about Sound during the Hawk Power podcast and from my very recent experience, I think I can see what they're talking about since it seems to give very audible feedback when you strike the ball clean, I'll probably keep experimenting with it for a bit to see how much I get from that.

I'm looking forward to when your video comes out regardless :)
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Yeah I just replied to your comment because it was the most recent one.

I first noticed the sound grommets on the Aux Rad and thought that it was dumb lol. I don’t know enough about acoustics to know whether or not the grommets actually do anything or not.

Interestingly the G98 has cap grommets but it’s just a normal bumper. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
The 95 is muted as heck. Are you playing indoors or something?
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The 95 I just hit outdoors and noticed the sound was way louder than the Gravity, my PA Raf or the PA98.

G98 I did only hit indoors and I think it’s clearly louder than the avg frame. I hit it next to my PA Raf, PD, PD98 and Carve 100 (all Babs I guess tbf).
 
People do care about sound. That’s why a lot of folks use dampeners, because it removes the “ping” to accentuate the “thwack”. Makes you feel better about the cleanliness of your shot. If you feel better about your hitting, you’ll play better. The string material and tension also affect sound. I personally like a low frequency bass-like thump kind of sound that you can only get with a flexible and heavy stick. I also prefer no dampener to maximize feedback.
 
PistolPete23 said:
People do care about sound. That’s why a lot of folks use dampeners, because it removes the “ping” to accentuate the “thwack”. Makes you feel better about the cleanliness of your shot. If you feel better about your hitting, you’ll play better. The string material and tension also affect sound. I personally like a low frequency bass-like thump kind of sound that you can only get with a flexible and heavy stick. I also prefer no dampener to maximize feedback.
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Nobody said you shouldn’t care, I’m saying there’s no difference
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Nobody said you shouldn’t care, I’m saying there’s no difference
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You’re arguing against somebody’s subjective experience. You obviously had a different experience. Unless you all carry out a systematic study that removes bias as much as possible, no conclusions can be drawn. At best, we can speculate in an educated manner about why or why not the G98 would make a unique sound based on its features. It’s futile to argue against a person’s experience.
 
PistolPete23 said:
You’re arguing against somebody’s subjective experience. You obviously had a different experience. Unless you all carry out a systematic study that removes bias as much as possible, no conclusions can be drawn. At best, we can speculate in an educated manner about why or why not the G98 would make a unique sound based on its features. It’s futile to argue against a person’s experience.
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It's okay to be excited about a new model. I think both godmode and this poster are reliable sources of information. I'm glad they both shared their different experiences. It's up to everyone to make their own decisions. I'd much rather have these diverse opinions than echo sounding chamber.

Ironically, I bought a gravity MP for my son and found out my flat serve does sound unusually loud with full bed poly in it.
 
PistolPete23 said:
You’re arguing against somebody’s subjective experience. You obviously had a different experience. Unless you all carry out a systematic study that removes bias as much as possible, no conclusions can be drawn. At best, we can speculate in an educated manner about why or why not the G98 would make a unique sound based on its features. It’s futile to argue against a person’s experience.
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No some things are objective
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
No some things are objective
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Yes, decibel level can be measured. But you've already concluded that a forum member's experience is incorrect without having performed a study to measure and compare with other racquets. Same strings, same tension, same level of hitting intensity, same distance from microphone at moment of impact. You could be correct, but at this point, it's inconclusive.
 
PistolPete23 said:
Yes, decibel level can be measured. But you've already concluded that a forum member's experience is incorrect without having performed a study to measure and compare with other racquets. Same strings, same tension, same level of hitting intensity, same distance from microphone at moment of impact. You could be correct, but at this point, it's inconclusive.
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You don’t need a full on scientific study for everything. You don’t need a scientific study to say hitting like this gives you injuries. There are no studies that say natural gut is better than poly for your elbow. I string all of my racquets with same tension/string. It’s the same “thunderous” sound as all my other racquets.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
You don’t need a full on scientific study for everything. You don’t need a scientific study to say hitting like this gives you injuries. There are no studies that say natural gut is better than poly for your elbow. I string all of my racquets with same tension/string. It’s the same “thunderous” sound as all my other racquets.
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So you're saying your subjective experience is more accurate because you're not under the influence of Head's marketing ...
What do you string with, just curious.
 
johnmccabe said:
It's okay to be excited about a new model. I think both godmode and this poster are reliable sources of information. I'm glad they both shared their different experiences. It's up to everyone to make their own decisions. I'd much rather have these diverse opinions than echo sounding chamber.

Ironically, I bought a gravity MP for my son and found out my flat serve does sound unusually loud with full bed poly in it.
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Having different perspectives and opinions is beautiful. It's just weird to me when somebody with a contrasting opinion would categorically dismiss somebody else's opinion because their experience was different. At the end of the day, you're comparing subjective perceptions of volume while using different strings and different tensions. So unless you're actually measuring decibel level, nobody is right or wrong. I did notice the ones who reported louder sound were stringing with Head poly ...
 
PistolPete23 said:
Having different perspectives and opinions is beautiful. It's just weird to me when somebody with a contrasting opinion would categorically dismiss somebody else's opinion because their experience was different. At the end of the day, you're comparing subjective perceptions of volume. So unless you're actually measuring decibel level, nobody is right or wrong. I did notice the ones who reported louder sound were stringing with Head poly ...
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Unless you’re measuring injury risk with poly vs gut, you can’t objectively say gut is better on the arm.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
No, I’m saying it’s objectively the same sound as all my other racquets hit back to back. HyperG at 48.
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So objectively the same sound, filtered through your subjective perception, ok.

AAATSportingGoods said:
Unless you’re measuring injury risk with poly vs gut, you can’t objectively say gut is better on the arm.
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Gut/poly is different. The dynamic stiffnesses have been measured, and gut is much, much softer at the same tension than poly is, even compared to so-called soft polys. So even without a study correlating poly to higher risk of injury, you can safely infer that it might be less arm friendly based on the instrumented measurements of string stiffness.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
did the others take the time to string all the other racquets at same string and tension before claiming it was the frame itself that was thunder?
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You don't get it. I'm not saying the others are more correct, or that you're incorrect. I'm saying that you are claiming what others experienced is incorrect, while they're not refuting your experience. It could be the frame, it could be a synergistic effect with Hawk Touch, it could be constructive interference of the vibrations between frame and string at a particular frequency. So many factors involved, but it doesn't mean that anybody's experience is right or wrong.
 
PistolPete23 said:
So objectively the same sound, filtered through your subjective perception, ok.



Gut/poly is different. The dynamic stiffnesses have been measured, and gut is much, much softer at the same tension than poly is, even compared to so-called soft polys. So even without a study correlating poly to higher risk of injury, you can safely infer that it might be less arm friendly based on the instrumented measurements of string stiffness.
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If you see a car on fire with your senses, it’s objectively burning.

So you infer softer means clinically safer? What about the factor that the sense of less control can cause the player to be more tense and increase risk of injury?
 
PistolPete23 said:
You don't get it. I'm not saying the others are more correct, or that you're incorrect. I'm saying that you are claiming what others experienced is incorrect, while they're not refuting your experience. It could be the frame, it could be a synergistic effect with Hawk Touch, it could be constructive interference of the vibrations between frame and string at a particular frequency. So many factors involved, but it doesn't mean that anybody's experience is right or wrong.
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I’m not the one claiming the racquet is thunderous or more unique in the sounds it produces by hitting with the frame once/twice without comparing it to other racquets with the same string
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
I’m not the one claiming the racquet is thunderous or more unique in the sounds it produces by hitting with the frame once/twice without comparing it to other racquets with the same string
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Do you really need to hijack the thread for such a frivolous argument? It doesn’t take a genius to understand this. Would a pro staff 6.1 tour 90 sound the same as a pure drive strung with the same string and tension? Obviously not
 
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