I do sorta wish they had made it a 16x20 and slightly more maneuverable. But truth be told the amount of power in this racket might be interesting for all levels. Maybe they just wanted a broader market
galapagos
Hall of Fame
Its funny isnt it? People get hyped with Gravity Pro yet skip Prestige Pro because its not „modern enough”.
For me Prestige Pro is actually easier to play with.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Gravity pro has bigger sweet spot and more power definitely. Both are thin beam and cut through the air fast.
With the Gravity Pro the amateur player gets larger head, more forgiveness, more plow through making it easier to swing, much larger sweet spot, stiffer response
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
No doubt the build up is huge for gravity line .. there is no a whole months build up for release and also 4-5 months of the frame marketed before the official paint job ..
Expect it do really well . Seems like Head done a good job..
Expect it do really well . Seems like Head done a good job..
thenewbig3
Semi-Pro
Hi @dr325i
Good to see you on here again! When are you receiving you production unit Gravity Tour 98 2025? What are your updated thoughts if any...
I play with the 22/24 Yonex Ezone 98 Aqua Night currently and was planning to buy a few more units before it goes out. I am not interested in the new EZ98.
DanTheMan1972 was probably talking about the Gravity Tour 98 - a lot of pre/reviews are saying it is very powerful. My person opinion is sometimes launch angle + swing weight get confused for power by many reviewers - lets wait and see... I've pre-ordered one and typically suffer with open patterns (EZ98 FTW). Lets wait and see I suppose.
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galapagos
Hall of Fame
I understand the concept but it was not my experience. Maybe I was shooting a bit further but not faster. Gravity Pro is a pancake Prestige Pro
they even share the same CPI I think? Dont get me wrong, I love the Gravity Pro and I used to play with the (I believe it was called) IG Speed MP 18x20.
But on top of that low flex and thin beam you also have higher SW so its harder to accelerate. Maybe easier to „let go the hand” but the swing speeds are harder to generate (also because of the bigger headsize). With the Prestige Pro its harder to make aggresive cuts up to the ball so it forces you to hit more linear through the ball (again more power).
Sure Gravity Pro is more forgiving but if someone cant play with the Prestige Pro imo they shouldnt try Gravity Pro either. The Speed Pro is waiting for them if they really want to use 100” 18x20
Oh and we string prestige in the academy very low. Like 21kg. (But so I did the Gravity)
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Apologies as I think I've said this before, but I have zero interest in reading about, discussing, or playing with the Prestige anymore - I play a ton of tennis in a variety of venues here in the US, and I have yet to see anyone play with a Prestige competitively. It seems its only remaining niche is a small group of vocal members of the TT forums. Given that the Gravity silo is their new players control silo, it makes the Prestige even less relevant.I understand the concept but it was not my experience. Maybe I was shooting a bit further but not faster. Gravity Pro is a pancake Prestige Pro
Dont get me wrong, I love the Gravity Pro and I used to play with the (I believe it was called) IG Speed MP 18x20.
But on top of that low flex and thin beam you also have higher SW so its harder to accelerate. Maybe easier to „let go the hand” but the swing speeds are harder to generate (also because of the bigger headsize). With the Prestige Pro its harder to make aggresive cuts up to the ball so it forces you to hit more linear through the ball (again more power).
Sure Gravity Pro is more forgiving but if someone cant play with the Prestige Pro imo they shouldnt try Gravity Pro either. The Speed Pro is waiting for them if they really want to use 100” 18x20
Oh and we string prestige in the academy very low. Like 21kg. (But so I did the Gravity)
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Thank you!
I am not sure, I have not asked for it. Last time I was in KB, in April, I hit with the final PJ, I assume that was the final version (we tested what I think was the final version back in December 2023, white outs and I liked it a lot except the TK82S, and too high of the launch angle for my liking (may be tied to the pallet shape too)).
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
True about the SW. That was too much for me, I got me a TGT344.4, pro stock that allowed me to customize it to 330SW and get my 9 pt HLI understand the concept but it was not my experience. Maybe I was shooting a bit further but not faster. Gravity Pro is a pancake Prestige Pro
Dont get me wrong, I love the Gravity Pro and I used to play with the (I believe it was called) IG Speed MP 18x20.
But on top of that low flex and thin beam you also have higher SW so its harder to accelerate. Maybe easier to „let go the hand” but the swing speeds are harder to generate (also because of the bigger headsize). With the Prestige Pro its harder to make aggresive cuts up to the ball so it forces you to hit more linear through the ball (again more power).
Sure Gravity Pro is more forgiving but if someone cant play with the Prestige Pro imo they shouldnt try Gravity Pro either. The Speed Pro is waiting for them if they really want to use 100” 18x20
Oh and we string prestige in the academy very low. Like 21kg. (But so I did the Gravity)
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
What gauge string were you testing dr and what string ?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I did a few different combos. Started with my standard, VS Bab gut 1.30 @54 (15%) and Hawk Rough @48 (5%).
Did a full poly Lynx Tour 1.25 at 50/48
Even did the Hawk Power at 52/50....too much
Ended up with the Hawk Rough in the mains, don't recall what I had in the crosses, want to say another poly, and that worked better for me from the launch angle perspective.
I tested it for about 9 hours.
Return_Ace
Hall of Fame
Don't suppose you know anything about the "Hawk Touch Rough" relaunch that was briefly mentioned somewhere earlier in the year? :3
What about Basavareddy?
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Thanks you did t like the lynx tour champagne 1.35 at 50/48 , I know it was a while ago though when you tested . I would hope that would bring the launch angle down. …
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I don’t believe there is such thing or it is a relaunch of the Hawk Rough.
Hawk Rough = Hawk Touch with those “rough” indentations
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
It was the lynx tour black and I think it was a 1.25. I like the string but as I recall I had the best outcome with the rough in the mains.
I’ll try again when I get the frame and replace the TK82S pallets
DanTheMan1972
Rookie
Yes, I meant the Gravity Tour 98. I can't believe that the GT98 has as much power as a PA98 or Ezone 98 ,for example, at least not with the same swingweight. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise and will definitely demo it.
Return_Ace
Hall of Fame
From what i remember, yes, it's a Hawk Rough relaunch/rebrand to Hawk Touch Rough because that's effectively what it is.
And in a different colourway
leng jai
Rookie
I have both and the Grav Pro is far easier to use compared to the Prestige. The sweet spot on the Prestige is tiny in comparison and much more unforgiving for any shots you're hitting late. Despite the bigger head size I still find the Grav Pro easier to swing, it's one of the racquets where you can freely take massive cuts on the ball and it won't go out.
bluewaterpro
New User
What tension on the Hawk Rough/poly hybrid?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I don’t recall but I assume around 48-50
This is the best and most natural reviewer I have seen so far who uses GT98. Although his level is not as good as some other reviewers, he has made full use of the advantages of GT98's high sweet spot and high swing speed.
At present, aggressive and flat swing paths with more hitting will be very suitable for GT98, while those who like cowhide handles or like more brushing of the ball should have a general evaluation of GT98.
JoeSixPack
New User
Can you please explain a bit more about the relationship of the pallet shape and launch angle? This is something I haven’t come across before. Thanks.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
The relationship is how you grab the racket and if you hit more open or not.
My whole life I used the TK82 pallets shape
johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
He measured 318 swing weight 62 RA. TW listing 328 SW 59RA.
Tan Tennis
Rookie
62RA makes a lot more sense.
At the end of their two videos you can see the measured specs, both strung with Hawk Touch it seems. Teaser sw=322 RA58, and retail sw=318 RA62
Sw of 320 with 1.25 is fine, I'd string 1.30 in it anyway, but 4 points difference in stiffness is a bit unexpected
Teaser might be the pro stock version, for pro use, and then they decided to up the stiffness for the mass market, just a guess
Sw of 320 with 1.25 is fine, I'd string 1.30 in it anyway, but 4 points difference in stiffness is a bit unexpected
Teaser might be the pro stock version, for pro use, and then they decided to up the stiffness for the mass market, just a guess
Frans Bleker
Professional
So the gravity's basically have the IG Speed molds right. It would be so awesome if they did the 100 sq 16x19 20mm beam 27.5 inch one again. That was such an underrated racket.
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Is it relatively easy to convert the new gravity tour to 27.1 inches ?
Frans Bleker
Professional
String the crosses 4 ibs tighter haha
BallBasher247
Professional
V similar but not the same. Gravity’s slightly wider at 10 & 2. Also drill pattern & throat beam shape is slightly different.
JoeSixPack
New User
Thanks! That makes sense to me. I came to Head racquets via the Gravity line that I think only uses the TK82S. Your comments made me curious about how different the pallets are and I found this TW podcast with a list of dimensions of different brands in the comments section. [https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...essentially-the-shape-your-grip-takes.714079/]. As one of the commenters pointed out, it’s the ratio (length:width) that presumably captures the “rectangular” vs “square” feel the best.
galapagos
Hall of Fame
Tried few setups here
Yap. I think overall 1.30 string at 23kg limited the potential too much. Maybe at lower tensions…so its basicly same story as I had with the vcore tour. Very similar frames. Tommy Paul should try it
thenewbig3
Semi-Pro
Yeah, remove buttcap and add in a 0.1" spacer and reattach buttcap
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
That increases the buttcap length no but not the overall handle ?
Strung or unstrung...3 point difference
thenewbig3
Semi-Pro
The ENTIRE buttcap needs to come off....not just the trap door like you are probably thinking. The handle feel will remain the same and basically you are extending the end of the pallet 0.1". Since the Pallet is connected to the Buttcap above the spacer.. this sort of system can be used for upto a 0.25" extension in most rackets and will look and feel stock. And can be undone in the future if you change your mind.
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Really helpful to thank youThe ENTIRE buttcap needs to come off....not just the trap door like you are probably thinking. The handle feel will remain the same and basically you are extending the end of the pallet 0.1". Since the Pallet is connected to the Buttcap above the spacer.. this sort of system can be used for upto a 0.25" extension in most rackets and will look and feel stock. And can be undone in the future if you change your mind.
Wonder if there’s a you tube video how to do it sort by step . Will have a look
johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
uncomfortable gravity only exists when you pick one heavier than what you can handle.
Dragy
Legend
Well you can still string it too harshly and hit off-center and get discomfort. But it requires some dedicated effort!
johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
If that's true, I will be very interested in this one.
Return_Ace
Hall of Fame
Not sure what TW were measuring since here the Tour is 320SW with Hawk Touch....
Unless Head QC strikes again
johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
Great! The only remaining question to me is sweet zone size for the tour 98.
Not sure what TW were measuring since here the Tour is 320SW with Hawk Touch....
Unless Head QC strikes again
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Did he mention twistwieght ? Above ?
the one I have was 321sw stung with hawk touch.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
The strung SW is DEFINITELY higher than 318 on the GT98, 328 sounds correct and matches the test frames I used back in December 2023.
62RA unstrung, possible but strung feels closer to what TW has.
Tmano
Hall of Fame
What kind of answer is that? especially not knowing my level. But besides that i really meant is it were arm friendly, that is all!
Frans Bleker
Professional
So how is the powerlevel of this GT 98? More like a 16x19 Blade V9, an Ezone 98 or somewhat inbetween?
more power then blade, probably the same as ezone. imo
