Head Gravity MP 2025 magic stick?

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zykoniko

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Hello, i opend this thread to discuss about the new Head Gravity MP 2025 295g 16x20 version.

I played every racket available the last years because i am a real racketholic:)... expensive, but i love it!

But now i have the feeling, that my racket journey is over?! Why?

I think i have found the magic stick! And i didnt expect that.

I played this Gravity MP 2025 several hours and its the best racket for my forehand and backhand.... so much control but also power.
I am able to play flat, but also can play big topsin shots.
The racket is very stable at the net. Ans o comfortable !!! I played 3 hours against hard hitters and no shoulder pain, no weak shoulder!

This racket really feels like it is 305g or more.... but its only 295 unstrung.

Serve is ok, but for a new racket you need several month to learn the new weight and motion, so this is ok. But i think you also have nice control.

I strung this magic stick with Head Lynx Tour at 52 lb, no lead.

The Gravity 98 was ok, but little sweetspot and you need more spin to control this racket.
The MP has such a big sweetspot, you cant miss, but you also have such a control! I never had such an expierence in my carrer!

I am in love with the MP !

Pleas write about your experiences about the Gravity MP 2025 !
I hope its not only the honeymoon period.... but i have a good feeling:=)
 
zykoniko said:
Hello, i opend this thread to discuss about the new Head Gravity MP 2025 295g 16x20 version.

I played every racket available the last years because i am a real racketholic:)... expensive, but i love it!

But now i have the feeling, that my racket journey is over?! Why?

I think i have found the magic stick! And i didnt expect that.

I played this Gravity MP 2025 several hours and its the best racket for my forehand and backhand.... so much control but also power.
I am able to play flat, but also can play big topsin shots.
The racket is very stable at the net. Ans o comfortable !!! I played 3 hours against hard hitters and no shoulder pain, no weak shoulder!

This racket really feels like it is 305g or more.... but its only 295 unstrung.

Serve is ok, but for a new racket you need several month to learn the new weight and motion, so this is ok. But i think you also have nice control.

I strung this magic stick with Head Lynx Tour at 52 lb, no lead.

The Gravity 98 was ok, but little sweetspot and you need more spin to control this racket.
The MP has such a big sweetspot, you cant miss, but you also have such a control! I never had such an expierence in my carrer!

I am in love with the MP !

Pleas write about your experiences about the Gravity MP 2025 !
I hope its not only the honeymoon period.... but i have a good feeling:=)
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It will be a great success story if you actually found your racket! Racketaholicism is a journey, and every journey leads to somewhere. Seems like Gravity MP is your destination, not because it does everything the best, but because you are willing to give it time to develop as the best racket for you.

You are going to become immune to glowing racket reviews, as your trust in your racket should overpower any urge to try something new. You might need some finishing touches as in different tension or minimal lead. Enjoy your Gravity MP!
 
Blade_X said:
Have you tried previous gravity MPs ?
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no, its my first one . Today i played 2 sets, again. Best racket, best return ever because you can crush the ball and it lands in because of the control and low power. Serve is weak, but second set i served with slice and kick, this was ok. But on return its the best stick i ve ever played
 
I really enjoy this racket (MP). I’ve been demoing it alongside the gravity pro 2025. It’s a tough call for me to choose bc they each have their pros and cons.

But the word “crush” you use is fitting. The MP has a feeling of crushing the ball bc it is crisper than the gravity pro, which in my opinion is more muted.
 
zykoniko said:
Hello, i opend this thread to discuss about the new Head Gravity MP 2025 295g 16x20 version.

I played every racket available the last years because i am a real racketholic:)... expensive, but i love it!

But now i have the feeling, that my racket journey is over?! Why?

I think i have found the magic stick! And i didnt expect that.

I played this Gravity MP 2025 several hours and its the best racket for my forehand and backhand.... so much control but also power.
I am able to play flat, but also can play big topsin shots.
The racket is very stable at the net. Ans o comfortable !!! I played 3 hours against hard hitters and no shoulder pain, no weak shoulder!

This racket really feels like it is 305g or more.... but its only 295 unstrung.

Serve is ok, but for a new racket you need several month to learn the new weight and motion, so this is ok. But i think you also have nice control.

I strung this magic stick with Head Lynx Tour at 52 lb, no lead.

The Gravity 98 was ok, but little sweetspot and you need more spin to control this racket.
The MP has such a big sweetspot, you cant miss, but you also have such a control! I never had such an expierence in my carrer!

I am in love with the MP !

Pleas write about your experiences about the Gravity MP 2025 !
I hope its not only the honeymoon period.... but i have a good feeling:=)
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I demo’d it and thought it felt amazing. Surprising amount of power, with plenty of control. Great feel on hitting winners. Agree that crush is the right word. Kind of surprised there has not been more buzz about it.

My only issue is the handle feels so short on the two-handed backhand. The MP XL helps with that; hopefully they will make that version for this new MP, as they did for the last one.
 
I just switched from a Yonex Percept 100D and loving it so far but curious to hear what people feel is best string set up? I typically string with O-Toro at 48/46 or Pure Rush at 52/50
 
4 months into GMP 2023. Leather and weight at 3-9oclock. Groundstrokes still land on service line more often than I would like. When I alter my swing to get deeper balls on forehand, I get exactly same results as mentioned in the review. Everything else is excellent.
 
Donmikan said:
Maybe even 4.0 minimum tbh
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Why does a 295g racquet require 4.0? This is not an obvious choice for beginners, but it is absolutely a good one for beginners with good swing mechanics. Gladiator is not my favorite racquet reviewer. I don't think he is baiting on purpose.
 
Donmikan said:
Interesting, the maximum value idea. What do you say would provide max value at 3.0 and 3.5 respectively?
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most 3.0s could most likely use a prestige no problem assuming no wacky technique. Is it great for their game? Unlikely. Will it harm their game? Maybe a bit but probably not do or die

But a frame with a little more juice like a pure drive/aero or ezone 100. Or the team/lighter versions of each will likely be the the best options for that 3.0 range. Anything with ease of power and forgiveness.

In my opinion there’s a weird curve when it comes to how much power a player looks for in a racket. At the 4.0 or 4.5 a lot of players have difficulty modulating pace and controlling the ball. So in this range more controlled frames or more stable solid frames tend to take over.

At the 5.0+ you can modulate pace and hit big with control so you could use something with a lot of free power and not feel like it lacks control. That’s why you see some scenarios where a D1 college player is hitting the crap out of the ball with a pure aero while a 4.0 might think the Pure Aero is uncontrollable for them
 
Highest ranked 17yr ATP Pro Justin Engel (#345) uses Gravity MP. Gravity MP is an underrated frame that caters to all levels of players. It's a great platform frame for higher level players that are willing to customize it. It has good balance of power,control and spin for how fast it swings. One of the most forgiving and comfortable frames with dense cross string pattern that allows you to use thinner/softer strings at lower tension. Compared to the Pro and tour, its a frame that anyone can pick up and play.
 
I did not like Gravity MP because it felt hollow... in comparison to my Wilson Pro Open BLX 100 or Pro Staff 97
 
HeavyHitter said:
Highest ranked 17yr ATP Pro Justin Engel (#345) uses Gravity MP. Gravity MP is an underrated frame that caters to all levels of players. It's a great platform frame for higher level players that are willing to customize it. It has good balance of power,control and spin for how fast it swings. One of the most forgiving and comfortable frames with dense cross string pattern that allows you to use thinner/softer strings at lower tension. Compared to the Pro and tour, its a frame that anyone can pick up and play.
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This is why I bought it and hope to switch to it in the first place. Whether the drill pattern can lead to some control issue is the only thing that is still bothering me a little bit. Hoping to find out if pure strike 100 16x20 will work better for me than the GMP.
 
Love my 2023 GMP. For awhile, had 2g at 3 and 9, 4g into the handle to balance. Playing 3.5 guys I was good with that setup, but recently had a hard time handling harder shots from 4.0s. Tossed on a leather grip and way more solid, but miss some of the easier swinging. Still trying to dial in how much overall weight I like in it.
 
the 2023 GMP is nice, or maybe I want it to be nice. a woman in my group lessons a while back had one and I got to play with her racquet. the hoop felt a little less solid, similar to my Microgel Radical MPs. it rewards full swings, but I did notice that the launch angle was higher compared to both my Ti. Radical MP and Microgel Radical MPs and there was a little trampoline effect possibly due to strings or just me adjusting to a larger head size.

I'm not a large guy, nor do I always have the best conditioning or footwork, but I've never suffered from a lack of depth or spin from my Radicals. the 2023 GMP felt very similar to my Radicals in terms of softness and flex, but just with a little more built-in help.

it's been months since I've gotten to go on the courts --- thanks dissertation writing! --- but I wonder how extended time with the 2023 GMP would go
 
oldmanyellingatcloud said:
the 2023 GMP is nice, or maybe I want it to be nice. a woman in my group lessons a while back had one and I got to play with her racquet. the hoop felt a little less solid, similar to my Microgel Radical MPs. it rewards full swings, but I did notice that the launch angle was higher compared to both my Ti. Radical MP and Microgel Radical MPs and there was a little trampoline effect possibly due to strings or just me adjusting to a larger head size.

I'm not a large guy, nor do I always have the best conditioning or footwork, but I've never suffered from a lack of depth or spin from my Radicals. the 2023 GMP felt very similar to my Radicals in terms of softness and flex, but just with a little more built-in help.

it's been months since I've gotten to go on the courts --- thanks dissertation writing! --- but I wonder how extended time with the 2023 GMP would go
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We have similar experiences comparing the GMP 2023 to the old radicals, just opposite ends of the spectrum. I have been using Ti Radical OS and Liquidmetal Radical OS for the past 20+ years and finally updated to a "modern" stick last fall. Demo'd a bunch from all brands and the GMP just felt "right". Really had the most familiar feel to my radicals, but with more forgiveness when I hit late or offcenter. That sweetspot size is nice.

The biggest difference other than headsize to me was the higher launch angle versus the radicals. Lot to do with the 16x20 pattern vs 18x20 IMO. I have two LM Radical MPs also, which I enjoy in doubles for the crisper volleying, but was just a bit demanding for me from the baseline.
 
yoka37 said:
We have similar experiences comparing the GMP 2023 to the old radicals, just opposite ends of the spectrum. I have been using Ti Radical OS and Liquidmetal Radical OS for the past 20+ years and finally updated to a "modern" stick last fall. Demo'd a bunch from all brands and the GMP just felt "right". Really had the most familiar feel to my radicals, but with more forgiveness when I hit late or offcenter. That sweetspot size is nice.

The biggest difference other than headsize to me was the higher launch angle versus the radicals. Lot to do with the 16x20 pattern vs 18x20 IMO. I have two LM Radical MPs also, which I enjoy in doubles for the crisper volleying, but was just a bit demanding for me from the baseline.
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we're on the same wavelength. you said it felt "right"; I felt "at home" playing with the 2023 GMP :)
 
I think this happens to every recreational tennis player who obsesses over equipment or technique.

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Ive had so many magic stick, strings, techniques etc... Ive lost count.
 
Sideline_22 said:
Are the grommets for the 2023/2025 Version of the Gravity MP interchangeable?
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Yes - they said

Does anyone know: Will the 2025 Bumper/Grommets from the Gravity MP fit the older models?

Has anyone any idea if the 2025 Bumper/Grommets from the Gravity MP fit the older models? I like the design/idea of the half CAP bumper and have been looking at some older MP's to do a project on a repaint etc., and as part of that I'd need to fit new grommets. So thought why not ask as this...
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For me it's really the "magic stick"....

brought both my GMP 2025 to the match today along with my Babolat Pure Strike 100 16x20...

Started with my Babolat, lost the 2st set 1-6.... decent power, but no feel and no control,.... was spraying ball and had to have huge targets. Spin was tough to get.

Switched to the GMP for the second set... hahaha... won 6-2, without a SINGLE direct fault. Feel and touch is awesome, I could swing as hard as I could... with spin of flat, the ball stays in...

Must admit it works so well for my game.... I will comit to this one for the summer season!! :)
 
Casper777 said:
For me it's really the "magic stick"....

brought both my GMP 2025 to the match today along with my Babolat Pure Strike 100 16x20...

Started with my Babolat, lost the 2st set 1-6.... decent power, but no feel and no control,.... was spraying ball and had to have huge targets. Spin was tough to get.

Switched to the GMP for the second set... hahaha... won 6-2, without a SINGLE direct fault. Feel and touch is awesome, I could swing as hard as I could... with spin of flat, the ball stays in...

Must admit it works so well for my game.... I will comit to this one for the summer season!! :)
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Got my second GMP 23. I need a few grams in the hoop and leather to not have too many short balls compared to aero 98. Was going to wait for the PS 16x20 price to go down more and try it. Why do you think the PS 16x20 doesn't give you good control? String bed is more open?
 
johnmccabe said:
Got my second GMP 23. I need a few grams in the hoop and leather to not have too many short balls compared to aero 98. Was going to wait for the PS 16x20 price to go down more and try it. Why do you think the PS 16x20 doesn't give you good control? String bed is more open?
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I guess it's the combination of more power and less spin than the GMP (yes yes!!), that results in more balls sailing long. Feel is also... different but I get less precision with it.

Again it's a great stick and my preference is mostly due to my game and the fact I'm not a guy that uses some extreme spin. I'm hitting flatter and am happier with a low powered frame...
 
Casper777 said:
I guess it's the combination of more power and less spin than the GMP (yes yes!!), that results in more balls sailing long. Feel is also... different but I get less precision with it.

Again it's a great stick and my preference is mostly due to my game and the fact I'm not a guy that uses some extreme spin. I'm hitting flatter and am happier with a low powered frame...
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Okay. Then maybe I still should test the PS. hitting into the net is bothering me more than hitting long.

Do you notice any difference in serve between the two? I can toss the ball way into the court and hit some crazy bombs with GMP, but can't do it with Pa 98 which I guess is related to the racquet flex. So interested to see how the soft PS 16x20 will perform for me.
 
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I have 2 of the the GMP 2023. It's 3 pts HL which is a bit too HH for most rec players. I ended up putting about 6 grams of lead at the very end of the handle plus an over grip. It's 6pts HL now and the stability and maneuverability are much better. I'm not sure if it's my Magic stick yet but I've played two of the best matches of my life with it. That's usually a good sign!
 
Agreed but I had played a few of the WORST matches of my life with the same GMP's earlier in the same month, LOL. I neglected to say that the best two matches were spread apart by a few weeks and at least 6 other matches where I played just kind of medium. I guess that's how I know it's a good fit for me. I can't really blame the racket anymore. I'm capable of playing a really good level with it. I'm also capable of playing like absolute crap with it.
 
Dunlop SX300 2022 user. I used to play with GPro 2021 for couple of years and i am a huge fan of gravity line. i have just trier the new MP and it's a fantastic stick. Easy and nasty spin, great power on serve and this classical gravity feel. Absolutely magical stick. I feel upset now because i just bought 3 Dunlop sticks and was confident that i am not gonna switch to anything else.
 
The difference in price between MP 2023 and 2025 is quite substantial. How big is the difference between these rackets? Is the feel on the 2023 version similar to the 2025 one?
 
HeavyHitter said:
Highest ranked 17yr ATP Pro Justin Engel (#345) uses Gravity MP. Gravity MP is an underrated frame that caters to all levels of players. It's a great platform frame for higher level players that are willing to customize it. It has good balance of power,control and spin for how fast it swings. One of the most forgiving and comfortable frames with dense cross string pattern that allows you to use thinner/softer strings at lower tension. Compared to the Pro and tour, its a frame that anyone can pick up and play.
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Yes. We follow him in Germany. And especially here in Bavaria where he is coming from. Huge talent! I wonder if he plays it stock or customized.
 
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Added a leather grip and it transformed the racket. Additional 10g in the handle helped the racket to twist and bend less upon contact. The final specs: 325g static, 33cm balance. I cant measure SW but i would assume around 325kg. The racket became more stable. The plow through felt a bit better too. But increase in static weight decreased maneuverability. It’s not something critical but noticeable. I think if i used my own racket and not this demo one this would be my set up. Plus i would probably add a bit of weight at 3 and 9 and avoid low powered full bed of poly. I would rather use natural gut/poly hybrid. With this set up this racket would be a beast. I have no doubt about it. It’s quite whippy because of low static weight and 22mm beam. The 16x20 pattern is very predictable. The feel is plush but not mushy. I dont believe in “magic sticks” but this is a very good racket. I think it’s extremely underrated, everyone just talks about the new Tour and the Pro. It’s actually quite weird but the more i play with this set up, the more this stick reminds me of my beloved Gpro 2021. After multiple customization iterations my Gpro was 330g static, 33cm balance and 330 SW. The feel of this slightly customized MP 2025 reminded me a bit of that Gpro. I dont believe this new MP is actually 57RA. Feels firmer to me. Especially on my 2HBH.
 
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They seem like great frames, I just can't handle the gravity paint jobs where it's a different colour on each side. Gets inside my head like I need to make sure I'm hitting with the 'good' side.
 
Gravities are very strings and weight sensitive frames. They dont seem to like any added weight at 3 and 9. I added just 2g and the racket became clunky, cumbersome and i could not generate any spin. Took it off and just left 2g at 10 and 2 and the performance was much better. like GPRo, GMP (maybe even more) doesnt take weight too well. For a modern all court player these sticks need to be light as much as possible. I found that for me 325g in my GMP is a sweetspot. Heavier and it becomes sluggish and i cant hit with the required level of spin. This is why i took the leather grip off and just used two light VS Feel OGs from Babolat.

Regarding strings sensitivity - my GMP 2025 was strung with VS touch gut 1.30 23kg and RPM Blast 1.25 21kg and the stringbed felt boardy and not spinny enough. I cut the crosses off and put my favorite Au Power instead. I immediately felt better snapback, spin and feel.

All this tinkering reminds me of my Gpro 2021. I loved (and still do) that frame a lot but it took me enormous amount of time to find the right set up for that stick. It was very tiring. I eventually sold it, because despite being one of the best attacking rackets, it was very difficult to defend with it.
 
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I just got my new Gravity MP 2025 (298g stock).

I've added 6g of silicon in the handle. Now it weighs arround 304g. Curiously, it has almost the same specs as the previous versions that I have (unstrung):

Gravity MP 2021: 304.6g, 315mm,
sw 290

Gravity MP 2023: 304.2g, 318mm, sw 292

Gravity MP 2025: 303.9g, 315m, sw 291

Based on these figures, I wonder if there is any magic or it is just a new paint job.
 
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FBL said:
I just got my new Gravity MP 2025 (298g stock).

I've added 6g of silicon in the handle. Now it weighs arround 304g. Curiously, it has almost the same specs as the previous versions that I have (unstrung):

Gravity MP 2021: 304.6g, 315mm,
sw 290

Gravity MP 2023: 304.2g, 318mm, sw 292

Gravity MP 2025: 303.9g, 315m, sw 291

Based on these figures, I wonder if there is any magic or it is just a new paint job.
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There is no new "magic", and it is more than just paint. HEAD is killing it with small incremental updates to layup and it shows.
 
mpournaras said:
There is no new "magic", and it is more than just paint. HEAD is killing it with small incremental updates to layup and it shows.
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I agree. There are subtle changes. The head bumper is longer and a bit heavier. Moreover, the new butt cap is not weighted.

However, these small changes did not translate into any noticiable change in the figures.
 
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